For those of you who don't believe in the next life, how does this make you feel

That when you die, you will never see your loved one again and both of you will cease to exist, and you will become as conscious as rocks that do not know each other anymore? Does it sadden you that your relationship has to end this way, after all you have been through together?

Word.

When I'm dead I won't ccare one way or the other.

I won't be alive to feel sorry for myself.

As if it matters... I'll be dead

Just makes me want to cherish the time I have with them now even more.

It depends I am not dead yet when I have died it wont matter if something happens by some miracle and I retain my mind yay. If not than well I will be dead so it wont matter.

Oh well, it happens.

Do I want that? Of course not. But I'm not going to believe in something because it provides me false hope of a happy ending.

HessenKnight

Pretty much this. ^

It saddens me and frightens me a little to think about it, but I'm not about to believe what a priest or anyone else tells me about the issue just because it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

The thought does sadden me yes, but..

It also encourages me to live the best life I can now; and while the thought of death isn't appealing, once it actually happens I will not have the ability to contemplate it.

I feel just fine about that.

I cherish every second I get to spend with my friends and family, and when I die I will be oblivious to the consequences of my death so that is ok. My body will go to create new life, and I will become a part of the earth I love so very much.

See? Atheists can be optimistic romantics about death

That when you die, you will never see your loved one again and both of you will cease to exist, and you will become as conscious as rocks that do not know each other anymore? Does it sadden you that your relationship has to end this way, after all you have been through together?

rubber-chicken

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That when you die, you will never see your loved one again and both of you will cease to exist, and you will become as conscious as rocks that do not know each other anymore? Does it sadden you that your relationship has to end this way, after all you have been through together?

Serraph105

of course. incredibly. Im not sure what you are getting at though? That I should then believe in God and Jesus because of this? False hope, incredible denial? I'm quite confused on this subject. Sure, religion sounds better then what you just posted, but that gives them no validity. MetallicaKings

[QUOTE="MetallicaKings"]of course. incredibly. Im not sure what you are getting at though? That I should then believe in God and Jesus because of this? False hope, incredible denial? I'm quite confused on this subject. Sure, religion sounds better then what you just posted, but that gives them no validity. hydralisk86

Except what he believes will happen when he dies is his consciousness will cease to exist, and his body will decay and return to the earth, that's it, the end. As opposed to going to heaven where you'll be in the presence of god, will see your loved ones again and will spend the rest of eternity in pure bliss if you would only accept christ and repent of your sins.

Now, if neither was true, and you had to choose, which one would you say sounds more like it's giving people false hope?

Knowing that I will only live once actually encourages me to live life at its fullest. Believing in heavenjust prepares mefor my death.

I won't care because I'll be dead...AxeStrangler

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[QUOTE="MetallicaKings"]of course. incredibly. Im not sure what you are getting at though? That I should then believe in God and Jesus because of this? False hope, incredible denial? I'm quite confused on this subject. Sure, religion sounds better then what you just posted, but that gives them no validity. black_cat19

Except what he believes will happen when he dies is his consciousness will cease to exist, and his body will decay and return to the earth, that's it, the end. As opposed to going to heaven where you'll be in the presence of god, will see your loved ones again and will spend the rest of eternity in pure bliss if you would only accept christ and repent of your sins.

Now, if neither was true, and you had to choose, which one would you say sounds more like it's giving people false hope?

That when you die, you will never see your loved one again and both of you will cease to exist, and you will become as conscious as rocks that do not know each other anymore? Does it sadden you that your relationship has to end this way, after all you have been through together?

rubber-chicken

That when you die, you will never see your loved one again and both of you will cease to exist, and you will become as conscious as rocks that do not know each other anymore? Does it sadden you that your relationship has to end this way, after all you have been through together?

rubber-chicken

That when you die, you will never see your loved one again and both of you will cease to exist, and you will become as conscious as rocks that do not know each other anymore? Does it sadden you that your relationship has to end this way, after all you have been through together?

rubber-chicken

lay me to rest in ash and sand

and pray I become the the wasted land

i do not wish to rise evermore

lay my consciousness to the floor

That when you die, you will never see your loved one again and both of you will cease to exist, and you will become as conscious as rocks that do not know each other anymore? Does it sadden you that your relationship has to end this way, after all you have been through together?

rubber-chicken

Seeing as I would cease to exist I don't think I would care much.

Also I don't get this whole scaring people into religion thing. If religion was really so good perhaps it wouldn't need threats to get people to believe in it.

Do I want that? Of course not. But I'm not going to believe in something because it provides me false hope of a happy ending.

HessenKnight

Sums it up nicely

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[QUOTE="hydralisk86"] How do you know that religious beliefs are "false hope"? I could just turn around and say whatever belief you hold about death is "false hope." The very fact that you have adopted a belief shows you have done what religious have done, by saying, "This is what I believe will happen after I die." Not meaning to sound mean, but I'm curious about this subject also. Everyone dies, but no one seems to come back, according to what we see immediately.

hydralisk86

Except what he believes will happen when he dies is his consciousness will cease to exist, and his body will decay and return to the earth, that's it, the end. As opposed to going to heaven where you'll be in the presence of god, will see your loved ones again and will spend the rest of eternity in pure bliss if you would only accept christ and repent of your sins.

Now, if neither was true, and you had to choose, which one would you say sounds more like it's giving people false hope?

I'm not really sure what you meant with that last sentence, but if you meant to say that we just don't know which is true or false either way, I actually agree. :P

I not saying one side is definitely right or wrong, no one really knows what happens when you die, but you have to admit, the religious option does sound too good to be true. :P

Impotent is a good word for it.

There's the deep level of acceptance in the life-death cicle for me however as a non-internet tough guy who enjoys life and finds death to be an awfully boring state I could use some other alternatives if it was up to me. Also I find the whole "I won't care when I'm dead" utterly conformist and self-centered. Thou that just me saying XDD

Also I find the whole "I won't care when I'm dead" utterly conformist

Dystopian-X

When i´m here, death is not. When death is here, i am not.

I won´t ever experience death upon myself, the nature of death forbids it. If religious scriptures holds true, i will be here, just in a different form -- so "i" am not dead, since i still participate in a realm. If religious scriptures promotes false beliefs, then "i" will seize to be, and that is not bad. Nothing is not bad, nothing is at the very least and at the very most exactly that; nothing. Why apply fear or belief to this?

The Greek Hoplites were fearless soldiers, not because of fanaticism, butbecause they all understood this concept of life and death.

When i´m here, death is not. When death is here, i am not.

I won´t ever experience death upon myself, the nature of death forbids it. If religious scriptures holds true, i will be here, just in a different form -- so "i" am not dead, since i still participate in a realm. If religious scriptures promotes false beliefs, then "i" will seize to be, and that is not bad. Nothing is not bad, nothing is at the very least and at the very most exactly that; nothing. Why apply fear or belief to this?

The Greek Hoplites were fearless soldiers, not because of fanaticism, butbecause they all understood this concept of life and death.

BiancaDK

Do I want that? Of course not. But I'm not going to believe in something because it provides me false hope of a happy ending.

HessenKnight

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This is pretty much spot on.

I personally believe something does happen when one dies, though I do not believe you are ushered to heaven to sit next to God on the throne with all your family. I believe more in one existing as a spirit in the world after death.

I really do not see how anyone cannot believe in life after death. If we are consciously alive right now it can't be just by coincidence. I mean how do you explain that we just happen to live a 50-100 year lifespan in a universe that is 15 billions of years old that we know of. And when you put all the mass there is in the universe compared to us its just impossible to believe that we are just alive by coinsidense. SpartanNapoleon

Why can't it be coincidence? Because if it was that would mean there is no one looking after us and life is just random chance and chaos? Yes, that is more bleak but I don't see why that cannot be.

When i´m here, death is not. When death is here, i am not.

I won´t ever experience death upon myself, the nature of death forbids it. If religious scriptures holds true, i will be here, just in a different form -- so "i" am not dead, since i still participate in a realm. If religious scriptures promotes false beliefs, then "i" will seize to be, and that is not bad. Nothing is not bad, nothing is at the very least and at the very most exactly that; nothing. Why apply fear or belief to this?

The Greek Hoplites were fearless soldiers, not because of fanaticism, butbecause they all understood this concept of life and death.

I really do not see how anyone cannot believe in life after death. If we are consciously alive right now it can't be just by coincidence. I mean how do you explain that we just happen to live a 50-100 year lifespan in a universe that is 15 billions of years old that we know of.SpartanNapoleon

Flies also live somewhere around three weeks, iirc, elephants live about as long as we do, and turtles live 100+ years easily, what exactly does that prove? :?

And when you put all the mass there is in the universe compared to us its just impossible to believe that we are just alive by coinsidense. SpartanNapoleon

Umm... Sorry, what? :?

So.... wishful thinking = afterlife?

What you want does not equal reality.

That when you die, you will never see your loved one again and both of you will cease to exist, and you will become as conscious as rocks that do not know each other anymore? Does it sadden you that your relationship has to end this way, after all you have been through together?

rubber-chicken

Nope, not in the least. If I'm no more conscious than a rock, then I WON'T CARE that I don't know her any more.

So...that sort of erases any kind of problem immediate.

Granted, if I die first, then she'll be sad that I'm gone (that is, until she dies too). But she would've been sad ANYWAY, regardless of if my whole consciousness disappears or if I have to wait around in Heaven for her to meet me. Doesn't change anything for HER one way or the other.

And regardless of that, let's also be clear that having an emotional aversion to something doesn't mean it's not a fact. It upsets me to hear about rapes and murders, but they happen. Much as I'd like to BELIEVE that they aren't real, they still happen. My wants don't have a hell of a lot of impact on what actually IS.

Conformist? Practical, I'd say...xaos