FRC:Obama has a plan to impose h0mosexuality, silence christianity in workplace

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/01/frc-impose-homosexuality/

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/FRC-ENDA-letter.pdf

Earlier this month, the far-right Family Research Council (FRC) sent a fundraising action alert fearmongering about the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which has been introduced in both the House and Senate and President Obama says he is "pushing hard to pass." "This law would punish anyone in the workplace who dares oppose homosexual behavior, cross-dressing and other unhealthy behaviors," said the FRC alert.

In a four-page solicitation letter mailed to supporters this month, which was obtained by ThinkProgress, the conservative organization went even further in its rhetoric, claiming that President Obama wants to "impose homosexuality and silence Christianity in workplaces":

In the body of the letter, which was signed by FRC President Tony Perkins, Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) is quoted as saying that ENDA legislation would mean that "the federal government would be dictating to religious institutions and organizations whom they must hire." The letter also claims the law could lead to an "employer telling you to remove the Bible from your desk because it is offensive to the homosexual or cross-dresser he was forced to hire."

These claims are ridiculous. Despite what Price says, the legislation would not force anyone to be hired. It would only mean that it would be illegal "to fire, refuse to hire, or fail to promote employees simply based on sexual orientation," as it is currently illegal to do in cases of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. Additionally, as the Human Rights Campaign points out, current ENDA legislation "exempts small businesses, religious organizations and the military."
The_Article

Oh please... >___>

And to imagine that most likely this thread will get pretty big, while theres nothing to resolve when it comes to the lunacy of some bigoted people.

So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them.

So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them.

hoola

"So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them based solely on the criterion of their homosexuality"

You obviously missed the green part.

Nice try in misrepresenting it. >__>

I support homosexual and anti-Christian agendas in the workplace.

In fact, I'm hanging pink triangles on my upside-down Xmas tree at work.

any american organisation that has *family* in the name seem to be complete nutcases. Is crap like this that makes people dislike christians

I didn't know it was up to the President to make laws. I learn something new about American civics everyday.

Isn't it already illegal to discriminate in hiring based on sexual preferences?MattUD1

Nope. The GOP is also fighting adding sexual preference to the federal hate crimes bill. Always against the march of progress.

Christians have a tough time acting like Christ it seems.wstfld

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Isn't it already illegal to discriminate in hiring based on sexual preferences?wstfld

Christians have a tough time acting like Christ it seems.wstfld

Christians have a tough time acting like Christ it seems.wstfld

This is precisely why churches should have ZERO INPUT in American government, workplaces and ALL publicly funded organizations and programs.

God should be limited to individual households and churches. Once you step outside of those two places, your relgious views become null and void to everyone around you and if you express yourself religiously in a manner that's intimidating or discriminatory to anyone else, you should be arrested.

PERIOD.

[QUOTE="hoola"]

So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them.

Teenaged

"So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them based solely on the criterion of their homosexuality"

You obviously missed the green part.

Nice try in misrepresenting it. >__>

That doesn't matter to me. The point is that they can get in trouble for not hiring them, whether it was a lagitimate concern or their own biases against homosexuals. The company should be able to hire whoever it wants for whatever reason.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="hoola"]

So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them.

hoola

"So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them based solely on the criterion of their homosexuality"

You obviously missed the green part.

Nice try in misrepresenting it. >__>

That doesn't matter to me. The point is that they can get in trouble for not hiring them. Whether it is a lagitimate concern or their own biases against homosexuals, the company should still be able to hire whoever it wants for whatever reason.

This is precisely why churches should have ZERO INPUT in American government, workplaces and ALL publicly funded organizations and programs.

God should be limited to individual households and churches. Once you step outside of those two places, your relgious views become null and void to everyone around you and if you express yourself religiously in a manner that's intimidating or discriminatory to anyone else, you should be arrested.

PERIOD.

Netherscourge

[QUOTE="hoola"]

So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them.

T_P_O

They can still decline to hire them, they must just have a reason other than "you're homosexual". Which is a pretty pathetic reason anyway.

Exactly. Deciding whether someone has the right to not hire someone for being a homosexual is just as bad as not hiring someone for being a homosexual. I think the difference is that nothing is being taken away from a gay person if they aren't hired, but there is something being taken away (an idea and a belief) from a person who is doing the hiring.

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

This is precisely why churches should have ZERO INPUT in American government, workplaces and ALL publicly funded organizations and programs.

God should be limited to individual households and churches. Once you step outside of those two places, your relgious views become null and void to everyone around you and if you express yourself religiously in a manner that's intimidating or discriminatory to anyone else, you should be arrested.

PERIOD.

apierce9

Because the crazy Christians hide behind the same cross the "good" ones pray to.

EDIT:

It's the same problem with Muslims. The "good" ones claim to be against terrorism, YET, you don't see them coming forward and openly condeming the crazy radical Muslims and saying they are not accepted in the eyes of their god.

Maybe if the "good" Christians would come out and openly, publicly and DEMONSTRATIVELY attack and denounce the crazy radical Christians as false heathens with their own, unrighteous agenda of hate and discrimination, then MAYBE we can all be friends.

But this never happens, becuase the hypocrisy of most religions mandates that they are supposed to be tolerant of intolerant people, so long as they pray to the same god.

It's a pathetic joke.

That doesn't matter to me. The point is that they can get in trouble for not hiring them, whether it was a lagitimate concern or their own biases against homosexuals. The company should be able to hire whoever it wants for whatever reason.hoola

You can't really impose homosexuality-- that would suggest that being gay was mandatory. That would be fun to watch, though.

[QUOTE="apierce9"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

This is precisely why churches should have ZERO INPUT in American government, workplaces and ALL publicly funded organizations and programs.

God should be limited to individual households and churches. Once you step outside of those two places, your relgious views become null and void to everyone around you and if you express yourself religiously in a manner that's intimidating or discriminatory to anyone else, you should be arrested.

PERIOD.

Netherscourge

Because the crazy Christians hide behind the same cross the "good" ones pray to.

You can't really impose homosexuality-- that would suggest that being gay was mandatory. That would be fun to watch, though.

dracula_16

[QUOTE="apierce9"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

This is precisely why churches should have ZERO INPUT in American government, workplaces and ALL publicly funded organizations and programs.

God should be limited to individual households and churches. Once you step outside of those two places, your relgious views become null and void to everyone around you and if you express yourself religiously in a manner that's intimidating or discriminatory to anyone else, you should be arrested.

PERIOD.

Netherscourge

Because the crazy Christians hide behind the same cross the "good" ones pray to.

EDIT:

It's the same problem with Muslims. The "good" ones claim to be against terrorism, YET, you don't see them coming forward and openly condeming the crazy radical Muslims and saying they are not accepted in the eyes of their god.

Maybe if the "good" Christians would come out and openly, publicly and DEMONSTRATIVELY attack and denounce the crazy radical Christians as false heathens with their own, unrighteous agenda of hate and discrimination, then MAYBE we can all be friends.

But this never happens, becuase the hypocrisy of most religions mandates that they are supposed to be tolerant of intolerant people, so long as they pray to the same god.

It's a pathetic joke.

*Rubs hands together*

Good. . .good. . .

This is precisely why churches should have ZERO INPUT in American government, workplaces and ALL publicly funded organizations and programs.

God should be limited to individual households and churches. Once you step outside of those two places, your relgious views become null and void to everyone around you and if you express yourself religiously in a manner that's intimidating or discriminatory to anyone else, you should be arrested.

PERIOD.

Netherscourge

Arrested for expressing your beliefs in public.

That's not irrational or anything.

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

[QUOTE="hoola"]

So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them.

hoola

They can still decline to hire them, they must just have a reason other than "you're homosexual". Which is a pretty pathetic reason anyway.

Exactly. Deciding whether someone has the right to not hire someone for being a homosexual is just as bad as not hiring someone for being a homosexual. I think the difference is that nothing is being taken away from a gay person if they aren't hired, but there is something being taken away (an idea and a belief) from a person who is doing the hiring.

A job is being taken away from the homosexual person when they may be more qualified than others jsut because of their sexual preference. How is that not wrong? Would you allow employers not to hire African Americans or Asians simply because they are African American or Asian? Cus it's the same thing...

So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them based soley on sexuality.

hoola

[QUOTE="hoola"]

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

They can still decline to hire them, they must just have a reason other than "you're homosexual". Which is a pretty pathetic reason anyway.

Juice_13

Exactly. Deciding whether someone has the right to not hire someone for being a homosexual is just as bad as not hiring someone for being a homosexual. I think the difference is that nothing is being taken away from a gay person if they aren't hired, but there is something being taken away (an idea and a belief) from a person who is doing the hiring.

A job is being taken away from the homosexual person when they may be more qualified than others jsut because of their sexual preference. How is that not wrong? Would you allow employers not to hire African Americans or Asians simply because they are African American or Asian? Cus it's the same thing...

[QUOTE="hoola"]

Exactly. Deciding whether someone has the right to not hire someone for being a homosexual is just as bad as not hiring someone for being a homosexual. I think the difference is that nothing is being taken away from a gay person if they aren't hired, but there is something being taken away (an idea and a belief) from a person who is doing the hiring.

A job is being taken away from the homosexual person when they may be more qualified than others jsut because of their sexual preference. How is that not wrong? Would you allow employers not to hire African Americans or Asians simply because they are African American or Asian? Cus it's the same thing...

Obama doesn't have the right to impose Homosexuality on anyone. IF you don't want a Homosexual working for you then that's your own prerogative.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Juice_13"]

A job is being taken away from the homosexual person when they may be more qualified than others jsut because of their sexual preference. How is that not wrong? Would you allow employers not to hire African Americans or Asians simply because they are African American or Asian? Cus it's the same thing...

sSubZerOo

Pretty sure it was a joke post lol.

And for the record, religion is included as something you cannot be discriminated against here in Canada, along with sexual orientation...

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="hoola"]

So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them.

"So, according to the article, its not going to force a company to hire someone, it is just going to make it illegal for them not to hire them based solely on the criterion of their homosexuality"

You obviously missed the green part.

Nice try in misrepresenting it. >__>

That doesn't matter to me. The point is that they can get in trouble for not hiring them, whether it was a lagitimate concern or their own biases against homosexuals. The company should be able to hire whoever it wants for whatever reason.

Obama doesn't have the right to impose Homosexuality on anyone. IF you don't want a Homosexual working for you then that's your own prerogative.

Snipes_2

Obama doesn't have the right to impose Homosexuality on anyone. IF you don't want a Homosexual working for you then that's your own prerogative.

Snipes_2

Obama doesn't have the right to impose Homosexuality on anyone. IF you don't want a Homosexual working for you then that's your own prerogative.

Snipes_2

Is it your own perogative if you don't want women, blacks, asians etc working with you as well?

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Juice_13"]

A job is being taken away from the homosexual person when they may be more qualified than others jsut because of their sexual preference. How is that not wrong? Would you allow employers not to hire African Americans or Asians simply because they are African American or Asian? Cus it's the same thing...

sSubZerOo

Ah ok, guess I should have read OP more closely: "Additionally, as the Human Rights Campaign points out, current ENDA legislation "exempts small businesses, religious organizations and the military."

Sorry, but, Since when was your ethnicity against someone's Religious Beliefs?

I dont even know what this is truly about but I saw the post saying that they cant deny someone a job because of being homosexual, I thought denying someone a job because of their sexual orientation or race was already illegal?

Obama doesn't have the right to impose Homosexuality on anyone. IF you don't want a Homosexual working for you then that's your own prerogative.

Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Obama doesn't have the right to impose Homosexuality on anyone. IF you don't want a Homosexual working for you then that's your own prerogative.

wstfld

What are you talking about?