From the President who promised greater transparency

This sounds almost like an Onion article.

"With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations, -- none of which I know how to work -- information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation," Obama said.

:lol:

Yes, we need fewer channels of communication controlled by agenda-driven interests. I can't believe an American president would utter such gibberish. This from the administration that was supposedly so tech-savvy. I guess Obama >3 the digital age........only when it helps to get him elected.

i miss bushAnti-Venom

I don't really see what's so outrageous about what he said. -Sun_Tzu-

Yeah. I understand what he's trying to say.

hmmm imagine if it was Obama who tried to pass the Patriot act...

I don't really see what's so outrageous about what he said. -Sun_Tzu-

It's completely out of step with his calls for more transparency and entirely self-serving.

[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]i miss bushF1_2004

hmmm imagine if it was Obama who tried to pass the Patriot act...

LastCaveMan

He re-enacted it, same thing.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I don't really see what's so outrageous about what he said. QuistisTrepe_

It's completely out of step with his calls for more transparency and entirely self-serving.

Do you understand what he means?

I don't really see what's so outrageous about what he said. -Sun_Tzu-

Me either.

Conservatives try to pick out atleast one line from everything ever said by Obama and turn it against him.

I also agree that true information (I.E. NEWS) has been turned into pure entertainment and is no longer used to inform the masses, but to encite panic through the masses.

I really don't think that he was calling for mass regulation of the media...

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I don't really see what's so outrageous about what he said. QuistisTrepe_

It's completely out of step with his calls for more transparency and entirely self-serving.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I don't really see what's so outrageous about what he said. -Sun_Tzu-

It's completely out of step with his calls for more transparency and entirely self-serving.

So we should listen to the controlled media instead, right? Obama doesn't like people thinking on their own.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I don't really see what's so outrageous about what he said. Pixel-Pirate

Me either.

Conservatives try to pick out atleast one line from everything ever said by Obama and turn it against him.

Who's the conservative that did that here?

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

It's completely out of step with his calls for more transparency and entirely self-serving.

AHUGECAT

So we should listen to the controlled media instead, right? Obama doesn't like people thinking on their own.

I believe the major media should have regulations forcing them to cite sources, and also making them refrain from blowing things out of proportion. The media alone can cause mass panic over nothing (swine flu) and cause economic fluxuations. They hold a great power and don't seem to be able to use it properly.

What I think he means is that rather than the internet (and new technology in general) being a new way for the people to empower themselves it is used mostly for entertainment.

I don't see what's so outrageous/"such gibberish" about this... I don't agree with him, but I also don't see how you're thread title has to do with the article...

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

It's completely out of step with his calls for more transparency and entirely self-serving.

AHUGECAT

So we should listen to the controlled media instead, right? Obama doesn't like people thinking on their own.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I don't really see what's so outrageous about what he said. -Sun_Tzu-

It's completely out of step with his calls for more transparency and entirely self-serving.

That depends on what qualifies as "ridiculous claims." More access to news, accessing the texts of upcoming bills, and world events, is hardly what I would consider a bad thing. But this comes from a President who has picked fights with media outlets. It just cheapens the Office of President while making Obama look petty.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] How? All he is saying is that the internet has made it possible for ridiculous claims to receive mainstream acceptance. Pixel-Pirate

So we should listen to the controlled media instead, right? Obama doesn't like people thinking on their own.

I believe the major media should have regulations forcing them to cite sources, and also making them refrain from blowing things out of proportion. The media alone can cause mass panic over nothing (swine flu) and cause economic fluxuations. They hold a great power and don't seem to be able to use it properly.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

It's completely out of step with his calls for more transparency and entirely self-serving.

AHUGECAT

So we should listen to the controlled media instead, right?

I don't really see what's so outrageous about what he said. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

It's completely out of step with his calls for more transparency and entirely self-serving.

QuistisTrepe_

That depends on what qualifies as "ridiculous claims." More access to news, accessing the texts of upcoming bills, and world events, is hardly what I would consider a bad thing. But this comes from a President who has picked fights with media outlets. It just cheapens the Office of President while making Obama look petty.

His problem is that the internet and tech is often not used for "More access to news etc." It's used for entertainment.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] How? All he is saying is that the internet has made it possible for ridiculous claims to receive mainstream acceptance. Pixel-Pirate

So we should listen to the controlled media instead, right? Obama doesn't like people thinking on their own.

I believe the major media should have regulations forcing them to cite sources, and also making them refrain from blowing things out of proportion. The media alone can cause mass panic over nothing (swine flu) and cause economic fluxuations. They hold a great power and don't seem to be able to use it properly.

Erm, there was plenty of medical citations for Swine Flu. Government bureaus advocated vaccination. Not that I think the issue wasn't overblown, (it certainly was) there was basis for the entire story.

Honestly, I am not sure that government would do a good job regulating media. Fortunately, Obama is not advocating this idea.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I don't really see what's so outrageous about what he said. QuistisTrepe_

Me either.

Conservatives try to pick out atleast one line from everything ever said by Obama and turn it against him.

Who's the conservative that did that here?

You.

"You're coming of age in a 24/7 media environment that bombards us with all kinds of content and exposes us to all kinds of arguments, some of which don't always rank all that high on the truth meter," Obama said at Hampton University, Virginia.

"With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations, -- none of which I know how to work -- information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation," Obama said.

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] How? All he is saying is that the internet has made it possible for ridiculous claims to receive mainstream acceptance. SgtKevali

That depends on what qualifies as "ridiculous claims." More access to news, accessing the texts of upcoming bills, and world events, is hardly what I would consider a bad thing. But this comes from a President who has picked fights with media outlets. It just cheapens the Office of President while making Obama look petty.

His problem is that the internet and tech is often not used for "More access to news etc." It's used for entertainment.

You'd think that the President of the United States would have other things to concern themselves with.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

It's completely out of step with his calls for more transparency and entirely self-serving.

QuistisTrepe_

That depends on what qualifies as "ridiculous claims." More access to news, accessing the texts of upcoming bills, and world events, is hardly what I would consider a bad thing. But this comes from a President who has picked fights with media outlets. It just cheapens the Office of President while making Obama look petty.

You.

Pixel-Pirate

Oh I see. Disagreement with the Obama administration = conservatism. Yeah OK.:|

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] How? All he is saying is that the internet has made it possible for ridiculous claims to receive mainstream acceptance. Pixel-Pirate

So we should listen to the controlled media instead, right? Obama doesn't like people thinking on their own.

I believe the major media should have regulations forcing them to cite sources, and also making them refrain from blowing things out of proportion. The media alone can cause mass panic over nothing (swine flu) and cause economic fluxuations. They hold a great power and don't seem to be able to use it properly.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

That depends on what qualifies as "ridiculous claims." More access to news, accessing the texts of upcoming bills, and world events, is hardly what I would consider a bad thing. But this comes from a President who has picked fights with media outlets. It just cheapens the Office of President while making Obama look petty.

QuistisTrepe_

His problem is that the internet and tech is often not used for "More access to news etc." It's used for entertainment.

You'd think that the President of the United States would have other things to concern themselves with.

The internet and its use is a very important subject. You're just trying to make news out of nothing and you know it.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

His problem is that the internet and tech is often not used for "More access to news etc." It's used for entertainment.

SgtKevali

You'd think that the President of the United States would have other things to concern themselves with.

The internet and its use is a very important subject. You're just trying to make news out of nothing and you know it.

And Obama has not said that access to news and access to bills is a bad thing. What Obama is referring to when he expresses concerns with respect to "crazy claims" are things like "death panels" and the idea that Obama is somehow a Kenyan-born illegal immigrant.-Sun_Tzu-

OK. And its the same medium that allowed for his campaign website, "http://www.fightthesmears.com/," sites for his campaign contributors, vocal supporters, etc. Again, it sounds like a guy whining about speech they don't personally like.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

His problem is that the internet and tech is often not used for "More access to news etc." It's used for entertainment.

SgtKevali

You'd think that the President of the United States would have other things to concern themselves with.

The internet and its use is a very important subject. You're just trying to make news out of nothing and you know it.

And if someone came after your speech and the outlets with which you participate in that speech, I'm sure you wouldn't mind it one bit. Uh-huh.:| The FCC has already attempted to assume powers that it doesn't have. Rational people might see this as a problem.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

And Obama has not said that access to news and access to bills is a bad thing. What Obama is referring to when he expresses concerns with respect to "crazy claims" are things like "death panels" and the idea that Obama is somehow a Kenyan-born illegal immigrant.QuistisTrepe_

OK. And its the same medium that allowed for his campaign website, "http://www.fightthesmears.com/," sites for his campaign contributors, vocal supporters, etc. Again, it sounds like a guy whining about speech they don't personally like.

Im a prog/liberal and I hate the Obama admin. But at least he is one billion times better than Bush.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

And Obama has not said that access to news and access to bills is a bad thing. What Obama is referring to when he expresses concerns with respect to "crazy claims" are things like "death panels" and the idea that Obama is somehow a Kenyan-born illegal immigrant.QuistisTrepe_

OK. And its the same medium that allowed for his campaign website, "http://www.fightthesmears.com/," sites for his campaign contributors, vocal supporters, etc. Again, it sounds like a guy whining about speech they don't personally like.

Has he called for banning these smears? I don't think so. It is perfectly within his rights to dislike smears and lies targeted at him by political opponents. Does any politician not complain when something untrue is said about them?

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

And Obama has not said that access to news and access to bills is a bad thing. What Obama is referring to when he expresses concerns with respect to "crazy claims" are things like "death panels" and the idea that Obama is somehow a Kenyan-born illegal immigrant.wstfld

OK. And its the same medium that allowed for his campaign website, "http://www.fightthesmears.com/," sites for his campaign contributors, vocal supporters, etc. Again, it sounds like a guy whining about speech they don't personally like.

I missed the part where I made that claim.

[QUOTE="wstfld"][QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

OK. And its the same medium that allowed for his campaign website, "http://www.fightthesmears.com/," sites for his campaign contributors, vocal supporters, etc. Again, it sounds like a guy whining about speech they don't personally like.

QuistisTrepe_

I missed the part where I made that claim.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

You'd think that the President of the United States would have other things to concern themselves with.

QuistisTrepe_

The internet and its use is a very important subject. You're just trying to make news out of nothing and you know it.

And if someone came after your speech and the outlets with which you participate in that speech, I'm sure you wouldn't mind it one bit. Uh-huh.:| The FCC has already attempted to assume powers that it doesn't have. Rational people might see this as a problem.

Can you please elaborate on the FCC and freespeech? And Obama should criticize those that lie about him, like any politican does.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

And Obama has not said that access to news and access to bills is a bad thing. What Obama is referring to when he expresses concerns with respect to "crazy claims" are things like "death panels" and the idea that Obama is somehow a Kenyan-born illegal immigrant.SgtKevali

OK. And its the same medium that allowed for his campaign website, "http://www.fightthesmears.com/," sites for his campaign contributors, vocal supporters, etc. Again, it sounds like a guy whining about speech they don't personally like.

Has he called for banning these smears? I don't think so. It is perfectly within his rights to dislike smears and lies targeted at him by political opponents. Does any politician not complain when something untrue is said about them?

I'm sorry, but that could be deemed "a distraction" from the truth. Especially if I access it from my smartphone or goodness forbid an "iPad or XBOX." But if it comes from CNN, ABC, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, or NPR, then all's cool.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

And Obama has not said that access to news and access to bills is a bad thing. What Obama is referring to when he expresses concerns with respect to "crazy claims" are things like "death panels" and the idea that Obama is somehow a Kenyan-born illegal immigrant.QuistisTrepe_

OK. And its the same medium that allowed for his campaign website, "http://www.fightthesmears.com/," sites for his campaign contributors, vocal supporters, etc. Again, it sounds like a guy whining about speech they don't personally like.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

[QUOTE="wstfld"] I must have missed the part where he said he wants to dismantle the internet.blackngold29

I missed the part where I made that claim.

Uh, go back and read what I posted.:?

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

OK. And its the same medium that allowed for his campaign website, "http://www.fightthesmears.com/," sites for his campaign contributors, vocal supporters, etc. Again, it sounds like a guy whining about speech they don't personally like.

QuistisTrepe_

Has he called for banning these smears? I don't think so. It is perfectly within his rights to dislike smears and lies targeted at him by political opponents. Does any politician not complain when something untrue is said about them?

I'm sorry, but that could be deemed "a distraction" from the truth. Especially if I access it from my smartphone or goodness forbid an "iPad or XBOX." But if it comes from CNN, ABC, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, or NPR, then all's cool.

Has he called for banning it? Disagreement isn't exactly new.