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#1 bacchus2
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I recalled this puzzle I was presented with once at a show, and thought it was interesting enough to share.

You and two other men have a crossbow. You are standing equal distances apart to form a triangle. No-one is allowed to move, and each of you will take it in turns to fire.
You have never held a crossbow before. Your chance to hit one of the other people is 30%.
The second person has briefly used a crossbow, and has a 60% chance of hitting whoever he aims at.
The third person has mastered the crossbow. At this range and his target not allowed to move, he will hit 100%. If he aims at you, you are dead.

The order of firing is you, the person with 60% accuracy, then the person with 100% accuracy, until one person is standing.

You get to go first; WHAT DO YOU DO?

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#2 Vyse_Legends
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Break the crossbow. That way no one can shot.:P
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#3 BAm-bAM_
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I recalled this puzzle I was presented with once at a show, and thought it was interesting enough to share.

You and two other men have a crossbow. You are standing equal distances apart to form a triangle. No-one is allowed to move, and each of you will take it in turns to fire.
You have never held a crossbow before. Your chance to hit one of the other people is 30%.
The second person has briefly used a crossbow, and has a 60% chance of hitting whoever he aims at.
The third person has mastered the crossbow. At this range and his target not allowed to move, he will hit 100%. If he aims at you, you are dead.

The order of firing is you, the person with 60% accuracy, then the person with 100% accuracy, until one person is standing.

You get to go first; WHAT DO YOU DO?

bacchus2

Well if you dont get to move how you gonna raise amd release the arrow? :P

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#4 reyad-u
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Nothing? you're not allwoed to move afterall.
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#6 YoungDollaFresh
Member since 2005 • 783 Posts

run for my ****ing life, nah just kidding,

ima aim and miss both of them purposely, the guy with 60% accuracy will prolly go for the 100% accuracy guy, and then it will be my turn to take out the 60%accuracy guy and if i hit, woohoo i did it...

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#7 lycrof
Member since 2005 • 6393 Posts

Shoot your self

You have a 70% chance of missing, the 60% guy will most likely go after the 100% guy, If the 100% guy still lives he will most likely retaliate at the 60% guy

Damn it, only one crossbow, I would break it.

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#8 Big_player
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theres no definitive answer to this problem because its probability.....
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#9 BAm-bAM_
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Tell them that there mother hates them and they should take their own life :D
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#10 L_burna
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well, assuming I can't skip my turn, I would first shoot the 100% guy, hoping to hit him, and then hope the 60% guy misses and I hit him on the next turn

if I first shoot the 60% guy I'm dead anyway

another option is: shoot yourself

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#11 YoungDollaFresh
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well, assuming I can't skip my turn, I would first shoot the 100% guy, hoping to hit him, and then hope the 60% guy misses and I hit him on the next turn

if I first shoot the 60% guy I'm dead anyway

another option is: shoot yourself

L_burna

u skip ur turn by purposely missing

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#12 Guiltfeeder566
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Break the crossbow. That way no one can shot.:PVyse_Legends

Yep
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#13 aaaaarrrrggggg
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Iuse my turn to shoot multiple times andkill them both, assuming i can use my turn to shootmore than once, which i will even if you say no. :P
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#14 L_burna
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[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]Break the crossbow. That way no one can shot.:PGuiltfeeder566

Yep

the description says: You and two other men have a crossbow.

doesn't that imply multiple crossbows?

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#15 YoungDollaFresh
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[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]Break the crossbow. That way no one can shot.:PGuiltfeeder566

Yep

every1 has there own crossbow though..

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#16 bman784
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You aim at the 60% shot and hope you don't hit him and/or miss on purpose. That way the 60% will aim for the 100%, logically because his shot is instant death, and either kill him, or he will miss and the 100% will kill him because he is the greatest threat. Then there will be two of you left, assuming you only get one shot. That's my best conjecture, but the riddle needs more parameters to understand.
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#17 Darth_Tyrev
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So far I'm with breaking the crossbow. Or just never pass it on. I mean, they can't move, what are they going to do if you keep it? And why would they be angry, why are we shooting each other, doesn't everyone involved want to live?
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#18 the_foreign_guy
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I would do one of the following options:

a) Break the crossbow, as previously mentioned.

b) Fire to miss. Common sense will have the 60% guy trying to go for the 100% guy. If he misses, the 100% guy (by common sense), will aim for the 60% guy. Then I only have a 30% chance to succeed. :)

c) /godmode :twisted:
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#20 BAm-bAM_
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[QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"][QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]Break the crossbow. That way no one can shot.:PL_burna


Yep

the description says: You and two other men have a crossbow.

doesn't that imply multiple crossbows?

Yeah but if you dont shoot niether will they..

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#21 bacchus2
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Damn mypoorly worded problem. Sorry, you each have a crossbow! Otherwise breaking the crossbow would be a good answer. For further clarity, you can move your body, just not move from the spot you are standing :)

I will come back and give the full answer in a couple of hours, I don't have the time at the moment!

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#22 the_foreign_guy
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...until one person is standing...

bacchus2

If that's the parameters, I would tell the other two people to sit down...

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#23 shoeman12
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go matrix. pull out my gun and bend backwards so they'll miss then shoot them.
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#24 BAm-bAM_
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I´m still with telling them their mother hates them andtheymust take their own life :)
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#25 Adoboy327
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MOAR L0G!C
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#26 Big_player
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[QUOTE="bacchus2"]

...until one person is standing...

the_foreign_guy

If that's the parameters, I would tell the other two people to sit down...



you sir, deserve a cookie.
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#27 jmorey01
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Well, it depends:

1) If the guy with the 60% accuracy is after you, then you shoot at him and try to get rid of him that way the chain is broken and you can use the confusion to distract the 100% guy and shoot him in the eye or something.

or

2) if the 100% guy seems too smart, then you take him out first so that way the other guy has a chance of missing you.

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#28 BAm-bAM_
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Damn mypoorly worded problem. Sorry, you each have a crossbow! Otherwise breaking the crossbow would be a good answer. For further clarity, you can move your body, just not move from the spot you are standing :)

bacchus2

Braking the crossbow still works?? they wont be able to take the shot because you didnt.

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#29 khuz
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Damn mypoorly worded problem. Sorry, you each have a crossbow! Otherwise breaking the crossbow would be a good answer. For further clarity, you can move your body, just not move from the spot you are standing :)

I will come back and give the full answer in a couple of hours, I don't have the time at the moment!

bacchus2

couple of hours! but i wanna know now!:cry:

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#30 Mythbuster4ever
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Shotgun

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#31 the_foreign_guy
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you sir, deserve a cookie.

Big_player

Why thank you. :oops:

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#32 Vyse_Legends
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[QUOTE="bacchus2"]

Damn mypoorly worded problem. Sorry, you each have a crossbow! Otherwise breaking the crossbow would be a good answer. For further clarity, you can move your body, just not move from the spot you are standing :)

I will come back and give the full answer in a couple of hours, I don't have the time at the moment!

khuz

couple of hours! but i wanna know now!:cry:

Things come to he who waits, but quicker yet to he who takes.:D
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#33 Guiltfeeder566
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Don't shoot, that way no one will and we all remain alive.
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#34 aaaaarrrrggggg
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[QUOTE="bacchus2"]

...until one person is standing...

the_foreign_guy

If that's the parameters, I would tell the other two people to sit down...

But....you can't move :(

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#35 the_foreign_guy
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[QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"][QUOTE="bacchus2"]

...until one person is standing...

aaaaarrrrggggg

If that's the parameters, I would tell the other two people to sit down...

But....you can't move :(

For further clarity, you can move your body, just not move from the spot you are standing :)bacchus2

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#36 YoungDollaFresh
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so we can duck or jump?

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#37 Devouring_One
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Well, it's better to go for the guy with the 100% hitting chance because if you don't and hit the guy, he will kill you next. And not only that, if you miss, the two other guys might attack each other.
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#38 kulmiye
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Don't shoot, that way no one will and we all remain alive.Guiltfeeder566

But that means we have to share our cookies...somebody will have to go :P.

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#39 notconspiracy
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hit the person with a 100% chance of hitting someone
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#40 aaaaarrrrggggg
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[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"][QUOTE="the_foreign_guy"][QUOTE="bacchus2"]

...until one person is standing...

the_foreign_guy

If that's the parameters, I would tell the other two people to sit down...

But....you can't move :(

For further clarity, you can move your body, just not move from the spot you are standing :)bacchus2

No fair, he put that in after i came into the thread :x

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#41 Video_Game_King
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Kill yourself before they get a chance :P.
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#42 ZeroPunctuation
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I would use the crossbow to dig a hole directly under me deep enough so they cant see me
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#43 GettingTired
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Touch her shoulder.

Oh wait.

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#44 101_king
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[QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"][QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]Break the crossbow. That way no one can shot.:PL_burna


Yep

the description says: You and two other men have a crossbow.

doesn't that imply multiple crossbows?

no, you said You and two other men havea crossbow, the a part means there is only one and crossbow isn't plural.
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#45 Spazoid
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Balance on the crossbow in a way so that even if you die you stay standing.
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#46 Darth_Tyrev
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So where's the answer?
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#47 DoHo
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Touch her shoulder.

Oh wait.

GettingTired
I actually lol'd.
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#48 MrGeezer
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well, assuming I can't skip my turn, I would first shoot the 100% guy, hoping to hit him, and then hope the 60% guy misses and I hit him on the next turn

if I first shoot the 60% guy I'm dead anyway

another option is: shoot yourself

L_burna

No, if you shoot the 60% guy, then you're safe.

I think the key to this problem is the order of firing. 100% guy shoots AFTER 60% Guy. If 60% Guy is dead (as in, if you shoot him), then 60% guy never shoots, which means that 100% guy doesn't get to shoot either. If you kill 60% guy first, 100% guy can't shoot anyone as he would then be shooting out of order.

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#49 MrGeezer
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Okay, assuming that we HAVE to shoot. Someone else said that since you get the first shot and everyone goes after you, then just don't shoot. That's a good answer. But if we assume that we have to shoot when it's one's turn to shoot, here's what you do...

Don't shoot at the 100% guy. If you hit him, then 60% guy gets next shot. He's then going to get one shot at you (and ONLY one shot), and there's a 60% chance that he's gonna kill you. Not a fight that you want to get in.

You want to shoot at the 60% guy. If you hit him, you're safe. 60% guy can't shoot, which means 100% guy doesn't get his shot either. Game over and you survive.

And even if you miss the 60% guy, he's not gonna shoot at you. He's gonna shoot at 100% guy. If 60% guy hits 100% guy, then once again, it's game over and you're still standing. Alternatively, suppose 60% guy misses. 100% Guy then shoots 60% guy. It then rolls around to your turn. You then get one final shot at 100% guy.

And that's the last shot that ANYONE fires. If you hit 100% guy when it rolls arounhd to your second shot, then you've won. You're the last one standing. And even if you miss, it's still game over with you standing. Because now that 60% guy is dead, he doesn't get a second shot, which means that 100% guy never gets his second shot.

Shooting at 60% guy first is the only scenario in which no one ever takes a single shot at you. So that's what you do.

Of course, that's assuming that there is absolutely no going out of sequence.

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#50 halo3-player
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Shoot yourself so your out then you just run away
[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]Break the crossbow. That way no one can shot.:PGuiltfeeder566

Yep

EVERYONE has a crossbow