Gamespot was wrong, Deadpool & Wolverine best MCU movie after Avengers Endgame

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#1  Edited By Indy_2024
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Deadpool & Wolverine is a completely cracking you up with Deadpool Jokes, one emotional rollercoaster ride. Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman completely rules in the movie! Great music , Great Action , funny various cameos and above all Deadpool's sense of humour.

Must watch movie of 2024

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A Marvel movie a must watch? lol. Nah, I'm good.

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#3 sakaiXx
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Watched it... tbh after 2 films deadpool 4th dimension commentary is just downright boring we already seen it all. Also the wolverine aint the same we rooting for since xmen. Its just another universe hack to bring back characters.

I do like the joke about 20th century fox tho. 6/10.

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Personally I give it a 10 out of 10 it's a great film.

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#5  Edited By shadowsentiel
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I still haven't watched it yet. Do you recommend it?

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Considering how horrible Endgame was, that's not saying much.

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I'm on a break from superhero movies/shows. Too too many of them.

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@shadowsentiel said:

I still haven't watched it yet. Do you recommend it?

Of course, only if you have enjoyed Deadpool 1 and 2 then you would enjoy it more :)

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#9  Edited By SargentD
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Heard it was good from people, say it's the best thing marvel has put out in a long time.

Tbh not willing to pay the ticket price to find out. Kinda hate marvel now, don't trust Disney at all.

I'll check it when it streams

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Nice. Loved the Marvel movies up to and including Endgame then kind of fell out of touch with them. Will definitely be getting back into them with this movie. Going to wait and get the blu-ray when it comes out. Am very hyped for Avengers: Doomsday and Secret Wars.

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@sargentd said:

Heard it was good from people, say it's the best thing marvel has put out in a long time.

Tbh not willing to pay the ticket price to find out. Kinda hate marvel now, don't trust Disney at all.

I'll check it when it streams

No offense but how much is ticket price in your area ? Is it very costly? I mean to say you can watch it on theatre with your freinds or loved ones if you interested in the movie from reviews as theatre experience is best suited for the movie :)

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it wasn't woke enough for gamespot. willow series scored a 9 lmao.

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That was that Phil guy who gave Ashoka 2 and The Acoshite an 8 and thinks Andor is the only good Starwars show?

Yea, pretty much disregard his takes.

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I really enjoyed it.

"Buh buh teh superhero fatigue.. "

Lol , no it's just when you cast no name actors to play characters nobody gives a shit about you are going to have flops.

This movie will most likely crack the top 10 all time showing you need to focus on characters people give a shit about.

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@indy_2024 said:
@sargentd said:

Heard it was good from people, say it's the best thing marvel has put out in a long time.

Tbh not willing to pay the ticket price to find out. Kinda hate marvel now, don't trust Disney at all.

I'll check it when it streams

No offense but how much is ticket price in your area ? Is it very costly? I mean to say you can watch it on theatre with your freinds or loved ones if you interested in the movie from reviews as theatre experience is best suited for the movie :)

**** Disney

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#16  Edited By Nirgal
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Superhero movie = plane movie

Maybe it's good, but I am definitely not going to the cinema to watch yet another super hero movie.

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@indy_2024 said:
@shadowsentiel said:

I still haven't watched it yet. Do you recommend it?

Of course, only if you have enjoyed Deadpool 1 and 2 then you would enjoy it more :)

Haven't watched the first two. Might give them a watch next weekend.

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I will watch it when it comes to streaming.

TBH I don't care enough about these kinds of movies to even classify them into good or bad. The only concern I have is whether or not it is entertaining or not. The movies are, best case scenario, mediocre quality. There really aren't any great superhero movies (at least as far as the MCU goes).

I just don't really consider them cinema. They are entertaining and fun, though.

@sargentd said:
@indy_2024 said:
@sargentd said:

Heard it was good from people, say it's the best thing marvel has put out in a long time.

Tbh not willing to pay the ticket price to find out. Kinda hate marvel now, don't trust Disney at all.

I'll check it when it streams

No offense but how much is ticket price in your area ? Is it very costly? I mean to say you can watch it on theatre with your freinds or loved ones if you interested in the movie from reviews as theatre experience is best suited for the movie :)

**** Disney

Wishing Gina Carano the best in her lawsuit. I don't agree with what she said, but firing her over that was a bit excessive. Would have liked to see her in a Republic Commando spinoff (or whatever she was in the show).

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@shadowsentiel said:
@indy_2024 said:
@shadowsentiel said:

I still haven't watched it yet. Do you recommend it?

Of course, only if you have enjoyed Deadpool 1 and 2 then you would enjoy it more :)

Haven't watched the first two. Might give them a watch next weekend.

Enjoy man :)

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@sargentd said:
@indy_2024 said:
@sargentd said:

Heard it was good from people, say it's the best thing marvel has put out in a long time.

Tbh not willing to pay the ticket price to find out. Kinda hate marvel now, don't trust Disney at all.

I'll check it when it streams

No offense but how much is ticket price in your area ? Is it very costly? I mean to say you can watch it on theatre with your freinds or loved ones if you interested in the movie from reviews as theatre experience is best suited for the movie :)

**** Disney

I get it :P

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#21  Edited By Indy_2024
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@mrbojangles25 said:

I will watch it when it comes to streaming.

TBH I don't care enough about these kinds of movies to even classify them into good or bad. The only concern I have is whether or not it is entertaining or not. The movies are, best case scenario, mediocre quality. There really aren't any great superhero movies (at least as far as the MCU goes).

I just don't really consider them cinema. They are entertaining and fun, though.

@sargentd said:
@indy_2024 said:
@sargentd said:

Heard it was good from people, say it's the best thing marvel has put out in a long time.

Tbh not willing to pay the ticket price to find out. Kinda hate marvel now, don't trust Disney at all.

I'll check it when it streams

No offense but how much is ticket price in your area ? Is it very costly? I mean to say you can watch it on theatre with your freinds or loved ones if you interested in the movie from reviews as theatre experience is best suited for the movie :)

**** Disney

Wishing Gina Carano the best in her lawsuit. I don't agree with what she said, but firing her over that was a bit excessive. Would have liked to see her in a Republic Commando spinoff (or whatever she was in the show).

Disney sucks, they fire people over smallest things.Unreliable.

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It was good, very silly and very nerdy. But if more movies are like that, it would wear thin.

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It was good fun and certainly more memorable than D2, which I have completely wiped from my memory for some reason.

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#24  Edited By rmpumper
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@mrbojangles25 said:

Wishing Gina Carano the best in her lawsuit. I don't agree with what she said, but firing her over that was a bit excessive. Would have liked to see her in a Republic Commando spinoff (or whatever she was in the show).

Well, it's not like she was fired right after the first offense. Pretty sure she was warned multiple times to stop tweeting that shit, but she just couldn't shut up.

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@uninspiredcup said:

That was that Phil guy who gave Ashoka 2 and The Acoshite an 8 and thinks Andor is the only good Starwars show?

Yea, pretty much disregard his takes.

I enjoyed The Mandolorian very much. Which one you recommend Ashoka or The Acolyte after The Mandolorian?

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#26  Edited By Nirgal
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@indy_2024: I would like opinions too. Ashoka seems to be regarded as being ok.

The acolyte on the other hand seems to be hated by everyone.

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@rmpumper said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

Wishing Gina Carano the best in her lawsuit. I don't agree with what she said, but firing her over that was a bit excessive. Would have liked to see her in a Republic Commando spinoff (or whatever she was in the show).

Well, it's not like she was fired right after the first offense. Pretty sure she was warned multiple times to stop tweeting that shit, but she just couldn't shut up.

Yeah, that is true.

Maybe the success went to her head, maybe she has brain damage from her fighting career.

A company having codes of conduct for people is not unheard of, I suppose, why should it be any different for her? She did say some pretty awful things, but it wasn't that bad. It was more just childish and immature than anything.

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@nirgal said:

@indy_2024: I would like opinions too. Ashoka seems to be regarded as being ok.

The acolyte on the other hand seems to be hated by everyone.

I have not finished The Acolyte, but in the three or so episodes I've watched, it wasn't near as bad as people made it out to be.

If anything, it really dives into the lore of Star Wars somewhat well, but it also plays with it.

I think the thing I find most alienating about it is that it almost seems like it is being made by someone that truly loves Star Wars and understands Star Wars, but then they're screwing with it for some reason and making it their personal agenda.

Ahsoka was wasn't bad, it was basically Rebels Season 4 and Rebels is arguably the best Star Wars series out there (yes, even for being an animated show, it is still the best).

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@nirgal said:

@indy_2024: I would like opinions too. Ashoka seems to be regarded as being ok.

The acolyte on the other hand seems to be hated by everyone.

Yup. I think i'm going to watch both lol

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I really enjoyed it.

"Buh buh teh superhero fatigue.. "

Lol , no it's just when you cast no name actors to play characters nobody gives a shit about you are going to have flops.

This movie will most likely crack the top 10 all time showing you need to focus on characters people give a shit about.

Who are you to tell people what they've lost interest in?

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Wishing Gina Carano the best in her lawsuit. I don't agree with what she said, but firing her over that was a bit excessive. Would have liked to see her in a Republic Commando spinoff (or whatever she was in the show).

If she was a nobody I'd probably agree with you because who would know who employed her? But when you represent a company then you can't make damaging comments. That hurts the brand. And no, I don't care about the people at top but a lot of other people are employed by companies than just the top dogs and loss of revenue hurts them before it ever hurts upper management.

No employer has to continue to keep those that can harm their brand. She sucks.

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@mrbojangles25 said:
@nirgal said:

@indy_2024: I would like opinions too. Ashoka seems to be regarded as being ok.

The acolyte on the other hand seems to be hated by everyone.

I have not finished The Acolyte, but in the three or so episodes I've watched, it wasn't near as bad as people made it out to be.

If anything, it really dives into the lore of Star Wars somewhat well, but it also plays with it.

I think the thing I find most alienating about it is that it almost seems like it is being made by someone that truly loves Star Wars and understands Star Wars, but then they're screwing with it for some reason and making it their personal agenda.

Ahsoka was wasn't bad, it was basically Rebels Season 4 and Rebels is arguably the best Star Wars series out there (yes, even for being an animated show, it is still the best).

Really? Missed Rebels , going to watch it soon then :)

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@silentchief said:

I really enjoyed it.

"Buh buh teh superhero fatigue.. "

Lol , no it's just when you cast no name actors to play characters nobody gives a shit about you are going to have flops.

This movie will most likely crack the top 10 all time showing you need to focus on characters people give a shit about.

Who are you to tell people what they've lost interest in?

I don't need to tell anyone I just look at the box office numbers. But unlike you I don't struggle with data.

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#34 Silentchief
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

Wishing Gina Carano the best in her lawsuit. I don't agree with what she said, but firing her over that was a bit excessive. Would have liked to see her in a Republic Commando spinoff (or whatever she was in the show).

If she was a nobody I'd probably agree with you because who would know who employed her? But when you represent a company then you can't make damaging comments. That hurts the brand. And no, I don't care about the people at top but a lot of other people are employed by companies than just the top dogs and loss of revenue hurts them before it ever hurts upper management.

No employer has to continue to keep those that can harm their brand. She sucks.

How are you talking about a company hurting their brand when they have lost half their value in just 5 years supporting ultra progressives values?

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@silentchief said:

How are you talking about a company hurting their brand when they have lost half their value in just 5 years supporting ultra progressives values?

You seem confused. Not unusual.

@silentchief said:

I don't need to tell anyone I just look at the box office numbers. But unlike you I don't struggle with data.

Not sure what that has to do with your rant about people not continuing to watch superhero movies. You don't get to gatekeep opinion.

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#36  Edited By Silentchief
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@silentchief said:

How are you talking about a company hurting their brand when they have lost half their value in just 5 years supporting ultra progressives values?

You seem confused. Not unusual.

@silentchief said:

I don't need to tell anyone I just look at the box office numbers. But unlike you I don't struggle with data.

Not sure what that has to do with your rant about people not continuing to watch superhero movies. You don't get to gatekeep opinion.

I'm not confused at all. You acted as if keeping Gina Carano was bad for their business but the reality is their hard support for leftist values has destroyed their brand.

It wasn't a rant. Super heroe movies have failed the last couple years and the excuse from the shills was " super hero fatigue ". Deadpool and Wolverine just destroyed that narrative.

The recent super hero movies failed because they focus on characters nobody gives a shit about.

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@silentchief said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

You seem confused. Not unusual.

Not sure what that has to do with your rant about people not continuing to watch superhero movies. You don't get to gatekeep opinion.

I'm not confused at all. You acted as if keeping Gina Carano was bad for their business but the reality is their hard support for leftist values has destroyed their brand.

It wasn't a rant. Super heroe movies have failed the last couple years and the excuse from the shills was " super hero fatigue ". Deadpool and Wolverine just destroyed that narrative.

The recent super hero movies failed because they focus on characters nobody gives a shit about.

That's been debunked FYI.

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#38  Edited By Silentchief
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@silentchief said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

You seem confused. Not unusual.

Not sure what that has to do with your rant about people not continuing to watch superhero movies. You don't get to gatekeep opinion.

I'm not confused at all. You acted as if keeping Gina Carano was bad for their business but the reality is their hard support for leftist values has destroyed their brand.

It wasn't a rant. Super heroe movies have failed the last couple years and the excuse from the shills was " super hero fatigue ". Deadpool and Wolverine just destroyed that narrative.

The recent super hero movies failed because they focus on characters nobody gives a shit about.

That's been debunked FYI.

What was debunked exactly?

In 2019, Walt Disney's (DIS) market cap was $257.58 billion.This was a 56.61% increase from 2018,

Disney's current market cap is 171 billion.

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@silentchief said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@silentchief said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

You seem confused. Not unusual.

Not sure what that has to do with your rant about people not continuing to watch superhero movies. You don't get to gatekeep opinion.

I'm not confused at all. You acted as if keeping Gina Carano was bad for their business but the reality is their hard support for leftist values has destroyed their brand.

It wasn't a rant. Super heroe movies have failed the last couple years and the excuse from the shills was " super hero fatigue ". Deadpool and Wolverine just destroyed that narrative.

The recent super hero movies failed because they focus on characters nobody gives a shit about.

That's been debunked FYI.

What was debunked exactly?

In 2019, Walt Disney's (DIS) market cap was $257.58 billion.This was a 56.61% increase from 2018,

Disney's current market cap is 171 billion.

Nah, the whole "go woke, go broke" thing isn't true. People are just tired of the superhero crap. We went from "OMFG I can't wait for Avengers" to "Oh look, another superhero movie".

Deadpool and Wolverine is the exception that proves the rule.

Despite my leftist leanings overall, I do have an innate negative reaction (usually an eyeroll; sorry, can't help it) to a lot of the social stuff they put in these shows and movies, and it really isn't that bad.

Lesbian in "Lightyear" wasn't a big deal, deaf superhero in "Eternals" wasn't anything huge, and She-Hulk is a character that's been around for decades. They don't really dwell on these things like people make it out to be. It's usually like a female character references her wife once or twice, and that's about the extent of it. Moving on...

I would argue the outrage over these small "offenses" (if you want to call them that) is way out of proportion and worse than the offense itself. You know, it's the whole one kid wants a litterbox in preschool and now suddenly it's an epidemic of kids wanting litterboxes in their preschools lol.

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#40 Silentchief
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@mrbojangles25 said:
@silentchief said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@silentchief said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

You seem confused. Not unusual.

Not sure what that has to do with your rant about people not continuing to watch superhero movies. You don't get to gatekeep opinion.

I'm not confused at all. You acted as if keeping Gina Carano was bad for their business but the reality is their hard support for leftist values has destroyed their brand.

It wasn't a rant. Super heroe movies have failed the last couple years and the excuse from the shills was " super hero fatigue ". Deadpool and Wolverine just destroyed that narrative.

The recent super hero movies failed because they focus on characters nobody gives a shit about.

That's been debunked FYI.

What was debunked exactly?

In 2019, Walt Disney's (DIS) market cap was $257.58 billion.This was a 56.61% increase from 2018,

Disney's current market cap is 171 billion.

Nah, the whole "go woke, go broke" thing isn't true. People are just tired of the superhero crap. We went from "OMFG I can't wait for Avengers" to "Oh look, another superhero movie".

Deadpool and Wolverine is the exception that proves the rule.

Despite my leftist leanings overall, I do have an innate negative reaction (usually an eyeroll; sorry, can't help it) to a lot of the social stuff they put in these shows and movies, and it really isn't that bad.

Lesbian in "Lightyear" wasn't a big deal, deaf superhero in "Eternals" wasn't anything huge, and She-Hulk is a character that's been around for decades. They don't really dwell on these things like people make it out to be. It's usually like a female character references her wife once or twice, and that's about the extent of it. Moving on...

I would argue the outrage over these small "offenses" (if you want to call them that) is way out of proportion and worse than the offense itself. You know, it's the whole one kid wants a litterbox in preschool and now suddenly it's an epidemic of kids wanting litterboxes in their preschools lol.

That's because they are making movies about diversity heroes nobody gives a shit about.

Yet Deadpool and Wolverine is breaking records and will finish in the top 10 of all time.

They were talking about super hero fatigue and Covid then " Spider-Man no way Home" made almost 2 billion dollars without China.

Meanwhile ESG funds have lost 5 trillion dollar. So " go woke go broke" definitely seems to be a thing ".

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#41 judaspete
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@mrbojangles25: Whatever happened to that movie Gina was supposed to make with Ben Shapiro? I'm a bit worried she's suing Disney because that project fell through or something. Like, I wasn't expecting it to be good, but wanted to watch it anyway 😆

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#42  Edited By judaspete
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@silentchief: I'd say "get woke, go broke" is a factor, but folks blow it out of proportion and use bad examples. Spiderman NWH brought back the old actors, it was always going to be huge. But then Enter and Across the Spiderverse also did well despite diversity and woke stuff.

Did Lightyear bomb due to having 30-seconds of lesbianism and lack of Tim Allen, or was it just poor reviews?

Did Willow bomb due to lesbians, or was it being a sequel series to a movie that also bombed (and aged terribly) that did it in?

Did Flash bomb because of Ezra Miller, or was it that most movies in this dying universe bombed?

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#43  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@judaspete said:

@mrbojangles25: Whatever happened to that movie Gina was supposed to make with Ben Shapiro? I'm a bit worried she's suing Disney because that project fell through or something. Like, I wasn't expecting it to be good, but wanted to watch it anyway 😆

I'm guessing they were too radical for her.

She said some stuff, it was a bit crude but nothing I'd call really terrible. Just someone being an ass and blowing off some steam.

So she got tapped as a potential revenue source for the far-right grift machine and after consulting with them she probably realized how batshit insane, weird, and sinister they are.

Just a guess, though. Gina really doesn't seem like the kind of person that would sell her soul for that bullshit, but then again you never know. She might have taken a few too many hits during her fighting career and things are rattling around a bit in that skull.

I've seen her in a couple movies, she isn't really that bad. Haywire was pretty entertaining. I thought she did alright in Deadpool as well. She was pretty good in Mandalorian.

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#44  Edited By Silentchief
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@judaspete said:

@silentchief: I'd say "get woke, go broke" is a factor, but folks blow it out of proportion and use bad examples. Spiderman NWH brought back the old actors, it was always going to be huge. But then Enter and Across the Spiderverse also did well despite diversity and woke stuff.

Did Lightyear bomb due to having 30-seconds of lesbianism and lack of Tim Allen, or was it just poor reviews?

Did Willow bomb due to lesbians, or was it being a sequel series to a movie that also bombed (and aged terribly) that did it in?

Did Flash bomb because of Ezra Miller, or was it that most movies in this dying universe bombed?

Spiderverse was successful because it had a low budget. 650 million on a live action MCU movie basically allows you to break even.

What do you consider good example? Strange world? Which celebrated its all non white cast and gay main Character?

How about " The Marvels"? Or " The Little Mermaid ".?

Also when is the last time Profesional critic reviews were relevant? DP & Wolverine has a pathetic 56 on metacritic and it's most likely going to be one of the top 10 biggest movies of all time.

I think it really just comes down to knowing your audience and the decisions they are making to " grow their audience " end up hurting them far more.

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#45  Edited By judaspete
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@silentchief: Wakanda Forever was a big hit despite having to replace dude with chick (and not releasing in China), Mario Bros was declared woke pre-release for having Peach wear pants but the Youtubiverse changed their tune when it did well, The Last of Us was a huge hit even will Joel's "race lift", added gay stuff, and positive depiction of a commune.

I had to look up Strange Worlds, forgot it happened. Jogged my memory about the terrible marketing. I heard nothing about it before seeing reviews, and skipped it because the reviews were bad.

Why do you think Wish bombed? There wasn't anything that "woke" about it, unless just having a mostly brown cast is all it takes. If that is the case, then I will conceded to the anti-wokes if Moana 2 fails.

But back to superheroes, fatigue doesn't mean no one will see any new movie. People will show up for Batman and Spiderman. But the days of C-listers making a billion are probably done. The fact huge hits were made out of Guardians, Aquaman, and Antman is the anomaly (seriously, Ant-Man. Millions of people watched a movie called ANT-MAN). Going forward, they should focus on a smaller number of bigger names, and not dive too deep with the supporting cast either.

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@judaspete: Wakanda forever was not a big hit. It made 500 million dollars less then the original despite ticket prices raising nearly 30% in that time. If they do not recast Chadwick Bosemans character a sequel is DOA.

Mario was not ultra progressive. The grifters like to rile people up but even they loved it once they saw it. I hate agenda driven content and I loved Mario. So putting that as a win for woke is laughable.

TLOU is being watched mainly by people that never played the game. It's mostly a new audience. I can't wait to see their reaction next season 🤣🤣. And it was only a hit for HBO Max because nobody has HBO Max. Compared to other streaming services TLOU didn't even crack the top 10 the year it was released. Compared to other shows on HBO Max a streaming service that has only been out two years TLOU is already 4th place all time behind GoT, Sopranos and HotD.

It's a Pixar film. Inside out 2 didn't have great marketing and it's doing fine. The problem with " StrangeWorld" is they marketed the wrong things.

Now this is why I hate using the word "Woke" and why I barely use it because it shutsdown critical thinking. A better term. Is " agenda driven content ". Making a cast non white does not mean it's doomed. But people can tell when something looks agenda driven. If something appears to be set in a " European style fantasy " and most the cast is black I think people pick up on that. Moana 2 is a movie that is celebrating a culture and i think it will do well. It's a passion project. Same reasonCOCO did really well. But then look at something like " Rings of Power" which is one of the biggest flops in TV history.

It needs to be more then just big name superheroes. They need to cast accurately just like they did in the first phases of the MCU. The characters need to be instantly recognizeable. Race swapping and then patting yourself on the back for diversity pandering isn't going to work anymore.

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#47  Edited By judaspete
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@silentchief: Wakanda Forever earned about as much as Guardians 3. Both were considered hits by post-Endgame/COVID MCU standards. The first movie was from anomaly times when people would flock to anything and everything MCU. Even Captain Marvel made a billion back then, and no one has ever given a shit about any version of that character.

Glad to hear you don't buy onto the Youtube grift.

Being 4th behind HBO's biggest franchises is nothing to sneeze at. But yes, people are going to be pissed with season two.

I heard way more about Inside Out 2 than Stange World. Seriously, at release I had though Wish was the next Disney movie coming out. Not sure what to make of this as my media consumption hasn't changed much in that time, but maybe it's just a coincidence.

I honestly don't know what happened with Wish, so maybe you're right that brown people in castles is too much agenda for most folks. (Edit: I take this back. HotD has brown people in castles, and everyone seems to be fine with it.)

They still cast the MCU accurately, but phaze 4 added a ton of new characters that most people haven't heard of.

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#48  Edited By Jag85
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I only watched the first Deadpool movie and found it boring. Didn't care for the story or characters and the silly juvenile humour just didn't land for me.

What are the odds I'd enjoy Deadpool 2 or 3 if I didn't even like the first one?

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#49 judaspete
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@Jag85: Probably zero. Haven't seen the new one, but the second was more of the same. I liked it, but I'm silly and juvenile.