Gamestop Manager Suspended for rewarding good grades!

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#1 MasterTheHero
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Original story:

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/localnews/news8/stories/wfaa070912_lj_brady.c9704de6.html

Updated Story:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/rebel-scum/gamestop-manager-suspended-for-not-selling-games-to-stupid-kids-300204.php

I'm wondering how come something like this hasn't hit Gamespot news, I would think that something like this would be far more interesting than the quarterly financial reports on the game industry. Considering that this was a manager who was rewarding students for getting straight A's in school, I applaud his effort in making sure the youth gets educated even though there could be some serious issues with his plan.

Anyone have any thoughts?

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#2 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e
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He wasn't hired to judge the education system. He was hired to sell. Good call on GameStop's part.
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He wasn't hired to judge the education system. He was hired to sell. Good call on GameStop's part.LukeAF24

Whatever your view that is pretty much the bottom line..

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He wasn't hired to judge the education system. He was hired to sell. Good call on GameStop's part.LukeAF24

I have to agree.

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#5 whos_next000
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I agree with the manager.
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#6 Mormaso
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What an idiot (the manager)

BTW I have a 4.0gpa...

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#7 USmellLikePoopy
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It's not the smartest thing he could've done, but he was rewarding kids for doing something good.
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#8 Guiltfeeder566
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He wasn't hired to judge the education system. He was hired to sell. Good call on GameStop's part.LukeAF24

Yep, thats all that can be said.
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#9 assassin29
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Selling something you should already be able to buy isn't exactly "rewarding good grades", it's just taking away from people with low grades. For example, if a parent says to a child"get good grades and I'll reward you with food and shelter" it isn't a reward imo, since some thingsshouldn't have to be earned.

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#10 Mumbles527
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Selling something you should already be able to buy isn't exactly "rewarding good grades", it's just taking away from people with low grades. For example, if a parent says to a child"get good grades and I'll reward you with food and shelter" it isn't a reward imo, since some thingsshouldn't have to be earned.

assassin29
Don't think you saw the whole story. If a student got straight A's, the manage would give them a game for free. I think its a good theory, honestly, but one that would have to be done in one's own store.
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#11 Def_Jef88
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While his intentions were good, it wasn't his place to decide stuff like that.
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#12 assassin29
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The manager wouldn't sell games to people in school unless a parent confirmed they had good grades, the article said he only offered a free game once.

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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]He wasn't hired to judge the education system. He was hired to sell. Good call on GameStop's part.The_Ish

I have to agree.

Me too.
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#14 Mumbles527
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The manager wouldn't sell games to people in school unless a parent confirmed they had good grades, the article said he only offered a free game once.

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"He's even pledged to buy any video for a student on one condition. "If you give me straight As with your teachers signature, endorsing it and your parent up here, I'll buy you a brand new game," Scott said"
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#15 CJL182
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I agree with the manager, but I can't argue with GS's decision. His job was to maximize sales, and he wasn't doing his job.
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#16 Food_Nipple
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While they made the right decision, it just proves gamestop is full of hypocrites. managers can lie about anything, misrepresent information all they want and the people above them don't do anything, but when they do something nice, that's when the higher ups put a stop to it.
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#17 pianist
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By Gamestop's rules, he was not justified in doing what he did, and so they were justified in suspending him. However, I support what this fellow was doing. If only this could become legislation. As a straight A student, I would have got plenty of free games. :P
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#18 pianist
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Selling something you should already be able to buy isn't exactly "rewarding good grades", it's just taking away from people with low grades. For example, if a parent says to a child"get good grades and I'll reward you with food and shelter" it isn't a reward imo, since some thingsshouldn't have to be earned.

assassin29

Food and shelter are needs. Video games are wants. Case closed.

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#19 Samwel_X
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He qas in the wrong. Does Gamestop permit him doing that? No. Therefore he is breaking the rules of his employment, and no matter how good willed he was the rules of his employment always come first.
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#20 pianist
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He qas in the wrong. Does Gamestop permit him doing that? No. Therefore he is breaking the rules of his employment, and no matter how good willed he was the rules of his employment always come first.Samwel_X

Members of Hitler's SS murdered people because of the rules of their job. Should the rules of one's job always supersede doing what is right? No. I'm not trying to compare the two cases - I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your logic.

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#21 SolidSnake35
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He was in the wrong, but I personally don't have a problem with what he was doing.
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His intentions may have been good, but frankly he got what he deserved for trying to play mentor when he was hired to be a manager.
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#23 GettingTired
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By Gamestop's rules, he was not justified in doing what he did, and so they were justified in suspending him. However, I support what this fellow was doing. If only this could become legislation. As a straight A student, I would have got plenty of free games. :Ppianist

Why? Not everyone is good at school. So if someone isn't very good at school, they don't deserve to ever have fun or relax? They should just be studying/working 24/7?

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[QUOTE="pianist"]By Gamestop's rules, he was not justified in doing what he did, and so they were justified in suspending him. However, I support what this fellow was doing. If only this could become legislation. As a straight A student, I would have got plenty of free games. :PGettingTired

Why? Not everyone is good at school. So if someone isn't very good at school, they don't deserve to ever have fun or relax? They should just be studying/working 24/7?

Very few people fall into that category. The majority of people fall into the "im too lazy to pass this **** easy course"...
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[QUOTE="GettingTired"]

[QUOTE="pianist"]By Gamestop's rules, he was not justified in doing what he did, and so they were justified in suspending him. However, I support what this fellow was doing. If only this could become legislation. As a straight A student, I would have got plenty of free games. :PDef_Jef88

Why? Not everyone is good at school. So if someone isn't very good at school, they don't deserve to ever have fun or relax? They should just be studying/working 24/7?

Very few people fall into that category. The majority of people fall into the "im too lazy to pass this **** easy course"...


Of course. But how would you regulate this? You can't.
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[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="GettingTired"]

[QUOTE="pianist"]By Gamestop's rules, he was not justified in doing what he did, and so they were justified in suspending him. However, I support what this fellow was doing. If only this could become legislation. As a straight A student, I would have got plenty of free games. :PGettingTired

Why? Not everyone is good at school. So if someone isn't very good at school, they don't deserve to ever have fun or relax? They should just be studying/working 24/7?

Very few people fall into that category. The majority of people fall into the "im too lazy to pass this **** easy course"...


Of course. But how would you regulate this? You can't.

Its not like theyre saying that you cant have fun if you don't make good grades, but rewarding kids who do make good grades. As such, my teacher gave me a candy bar for getting the highest grade on the test. She wasnt punishing the other students. If they want a candy bar, they can still go buy one.

....come to think of it, she still hasnt given me my candy bar....

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#27 MasterTheHero
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For me this article was about the manager trying to instill a new level of standard.

Too many people in the education system are getting lazy and not trying their hardest to achieve. Though there is nothing wrong with that, when a huge chunk of the education system starts to falter like that an entire country begins to breed dumb asses.

I don't see where people would have a problem either, as long you had good grades it wouldn't be an issue. You got a BONUS free game if you got straight A's which was simply fantastic.

It rewards people who work hard for what they want which is what America has been all about. Work hard and dedicate yourself to achieving excellency in order to be rewarded in the future. Too many kids are playing video games and not knowing how to spell, write, or read but they can completely destroy anyone in Battlefield 2 or Command & Conquer 3. Is that something to be proud of?

At one point I was reading on the forums with someone saying "So dus anyone ply villn liar? It wuz prtty sweat and cul."

I promptly responded "Instead of playing video games, maybe you should be playing hooked on phonics."

A lot of kids are embarrassingly uneducated in these things because they're spending so much time playing video games, I really think that the gamestop manager has a very good idea and should work with it.

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#28 Sandro909
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What an idiot (the manager)

BTW I have a 4.0gpa...

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#29 MasterTheHero
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To think, if you showed that manager a 4.0 he'd buy you a brand new game for free.
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#30 muthsera666
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While his intentions were good, it wasn't his place to decide stuff like that.Def_Jef88

I agree with this. It's a great idea, and I like the fact that he is taking an active interest in the children in his community. However, it is not his store to make the decisions to do such things. If it is his own store, he can decide to do this, but if it is not approved by the management of GameStop, then he is violating the customers right to be able to purchase items.

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[QUOTE="pianist"]By Gamestop's rules, he was not justified in doing what he did, and so they were justified in suspending him. However, I support what this fellow was doing. If only this could become legislation. As a straight A student, I would have got plenty of free games. :PGettingTired

Why? Not everyone is good at school. So if someone isn't very good at school, they don't deserve to ever have fun or relax? They should just be studying/working 24/7?

It's the excessive 'having fun and relaxing' that typically leads to the poor performance in school. I think a great deal of my success in school can be attributed to my parents regulating my entertainment strictly. By the time I reached high school, I was a highly disciplined worker, and they cut the ropes and let me manage my own life however I saw fit. No nagging when I spent a whole day playing computer games, because they knew they could trust me to set the right priorities for myself.

People get lazy when they have alternatives to work. Computer games are an alternative. And thus, I think that someone who does poorly in school should not have free access to these sorts of distractions. If they have nothing better to do, they'll do their homework. If they have a goal to strive for (the ability to purchase entertainment in this case), they'll do their homework. Then, when they understand the importance of education and develop the ability to manage their time well, they can be afforded to luxury of these distractions. This isn't to say that a poor student should never have access to entertainment, but rather that it should be regulated. It is, after all, in the child's best interests, even though he or she won't think so at the time.

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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]He wasn't hired to judge the education system. He was hired to sell. Good call on GameStop's part.The_Ish

I have to agree.

Me too.
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#33 MasterTheHero
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I would also like to add, that even though it wasn't his store to do such policies. I think everything has to start somewhere, and what better way than in the store that sells the most videogames to kids these days?

People had to sit in the front of the bus when the bus wasn't theirs to make a point, now a manager at Gamestop is making a point that should be heard. The education in our school system is sorely lacking in some areas, and the wrong values are being instilled in today's youth.

The last thing we need is for the next generation to be full of slackers.

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#34 MrGeezer
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I see a lot of people saying that this is a good idea, and I'm not sure that I agree.

And really, my parents have done the same thing.

"If you do good in school, I'll buy you a Sega Genesis".

And even then, even though I thought it was a sweet deal, I had a problem with that even as a kid. I'm not sure if I thought that my dad was bribing me in order to get my grades up, or if I was taking advantage of him in order to get a Sega Genesis, but it always just seemed "wrong".

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I would also like to add, that even though it wasn't his store to do such policies. I think everything has to start somewhere, and what better way than in the store that sells the most videogames to kids these days?

People had to sit in the front of the bus when the bus wasn't theirs to make a point, now a manager at Gamestop is making a point that should be heard. The education in our school system is sorely lacking in some areas, and the wrong values are being instilled in today's youth.

The last thing we need is for the next generation to be full of slackers.

MasterTheHero

I'm confused. You aren't honestly trying to compare this guy to Rosa Parks, are you?

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#36 jrhawk42
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I hate to insult a large portion of posters, but the OP knew you were stupid and wouldn't read the article before you posted a blind opintion. He wasn't suspended for rewarding good grades he was suspended for refusing to sell games to kids w/ bad grades. I'd recommend you guys actually take some time to read the article, and look into the story before blindly posting something.

I think the manager had a good moral policy, but the problem is that it wasn't his policy to make. Had he put in the capital, and owned the store then he can make the policy, but as an employee.

It also brings up an interesting point do stores have the right to judge you? Can Mcdonalds refuse to serve you because your fat? Can a record store refuse to sell you a record cause you don't fit into the scene? Can a bar refuse to serve you liquor because your unemployed.

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#37 JustPlainLucas
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Bottom line: GameStop is a business. Their business is to sell games. Restricting game sales to only those with good grades effects their business. The manager was rightfully suspended, as the program he initiated should have been cleared with corporate first. He had no right to limit the sales of games to students anyway. It's the parents rights to deny their children video games.

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i agree with the manager :|
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[QUOTE="Samwel_X"]He qas in the wrong. Does Gamestop permit him doing that? No. Therefore he is breaking the rules of his employment, and no matter how good willed he was the rules of his employment always come first.pianist

Members of Hitler's SS murdered people because of the rules of their job. Should the rules of one's job always supersede doing what is right? No. I'm not trying to compare the two cases - I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your logic.

Thats speaking way too literally. If you havea job, you do it, you don't do what you think is right. What if you disagree with that job, ala Hitler's SS? You quit.

About this guy's rule....t depends on what you mean by good grades. I was a B student. Sure, I could have gotten A's... but im not an overachiever, which is something im not proud of, but I don't put all my effort into most things... that being said... for example, I didn't study for tests, I didn't take notes, hell, I wouldn't pay attention most of the time. I just did my homework before school, and Ive been good at tests, so I can usally make at least a B.

So, by good grades, if this guy wont let a kid buy a game for not having straight A's.... well, thats **** up. Or does he mean C and above? Because I can see that. Still though, he doesn't have a right to do it, because for people like me (I didn't give a crap at all in elementary and middle school, started to try in high school), who don't make perfect grades, it's denying something that you would normally be able to get, even if it is not rated mature... more of a punishment then a reward. It would also mean your parents would have to come in and buy the game with you, even if you were buying an E rated game. This can be very inconvenient, if say, you wanted to run in and buy a game while your parents were getting something next door.

He should have discussed it with the whole gamestop franchise first. This could be a great idea, if he changed a few things.

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shouldn't hey already be getting good grades?
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I can't believe someone hasn't linkified this yet.
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#42 chutup
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what an obnoxious, self-righteous fascist. I hope he gets arrested for discrimination or something. If he pulled that crap on me (which he wouldn't, since I get good grades) I would have punched his fat head in.