Gang of Cops Assaults College Student

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#1 BluRayHiDef
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A HUGE gang of cops - about ten of them - assaulted a college student, as you can see here, for drinking a beer which was in a paper bag while walking down the street. What are your thoughts?

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He's an idiot for consuming alcohol in public but wow, the cops went overboard to say the least.

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#3 Omni-Slash
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bet the dipsh*t doesn't do it again....
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#4 johnd13
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What' s with cops' hatred of people drinking (be it alcoholic or not) lately?

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#5 General_X
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They were both in the wrong, but the cops could have easily handled the situation much better.
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#6 leviathan91
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Probably more to this story...

Also, drinking in public is a misdemeanor but it still doesn't excuse what happened if that's what happened.

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#7 GummiRaccoon
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Whatever happened to just grabbing the dude and handcuffing him?

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#8 leviathan91
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What' s with cops' hatred of people drinking (be it alcoholic or not) lately?

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MADD, perception on drinking, zero tolerance laws regarding consumption of alcohol.

But really, he shouldn't have been beat up if that's all he was doing. At most, he should have been fined.

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#9 johnd13
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[QUOTE="johnd13"]

What' s with cops' hatred of people drinking (be it alcoholic or not) lately?

leviathan91

MADD, perception on drinking, zero tolerance laws regarding consumption of alcohol.

But really, he shouldn't have been beat up if that's all he was doing. At most, he should have been fined.

Agreed. And this shouldn' t give all cops out there a bad name as some of them are truly loyal to serving the law and justice.

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#10 sexyweapons
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I see where this is going.....

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#11 TacticalDesire
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Cops can't just attack people unless they are a clear and present danger can they? I don't really see how this is excusable.

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#12 bnarmz
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And I bet some of those cops threw back a few cold ones themselves later that night. smh. Extreme policing is being exposed daily and its a good thing. Thank god for the video camera.
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#13 thebest31406
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This like the fourth post this week where some officer or officers beat the hell out of some civilian. Though it's good to see most of the members of OT condemning this behaviour, it baffles me that there are still some members out there who are willing to give them such undeserving support. "They probably deserved it" or "I'm sure there's more to this story" Why? Based on what exactly?
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#14 Ace6301
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You'd think something like that would maybe warrant a "Hey, be safe okay? Don't go wandering into traffic now (jokingly)". Instead the guy gets beat up for having a can of beer in a public place. Grand.
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#15 tumbIew33d
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I thought a "pack" was the collective noun for officers of the law.
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Can't even have a drink while walking down the road anymore... what is happening to this country,,..
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cops are repulsive they are supposed to protect civilians but all they do is accept psychos on standard power trip that abuse that power

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Can't even have a drink while walking down the road anymore... what is happening to this country,,..CoolSkAGuy

I can never think of a time where one could walk down the street drinking alcohol without getting in trouble. Now, if a section of a city is blocked off and permits are issued for the consumption of alcohol and sales of said alcohol and is restricted to that area, then drinking in public is allowed (think Music Midtown in Atlanta where a 5 city block area is cordoned off and one has to buy a ticket to get in). Outside of that, you can't walk down the street drinking alcohol.

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Fvck da police.
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#20 LJS9502_basic
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Hmm...well I don't like to comment when I only see the conclusion and not the beginning.
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#21 leviathan91
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Here's a nice cop. LINK

Did I restore anyone's faith in humanity here?

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Police get away with this sort of thing on a daily basis.. I've witness it first hand. I wasn't involved but i've seen police bash someone at a bar because they were intoxicated and they could get away with it. They arrested him after beating him and humiliating him. He didn't do anything wrong, in fact is was a bouncer that provoked the entire situation because he and the cops thought it would be funny. This is the problem with giving people power in authority.. they abuse it constantly and they get away with it. They need to be help responsible for their actions and all those officers should face charges and be fired.
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#23 thebest31406
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Here's a nice cop. LINK

Did I restore anyone's faith in humanity here?

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That's exactly how they should behave. I'm not saying that there aren't any decent cops out there. I am saying that too often many of these cops assault civilians, particularly the ethnic ones, with near impunity. If the state would imposed stiffer penalties on the crazy ones, then you'd see more of the nice ones.
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Holy crap, WTF? They are bad cops, all of them need retraining or to be fired.

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#25 SaintLeonidas
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Yeah, zero excuse for what the cops did. One guy, not drunk, unarmed, even if "resisting arrest" doesn't call for ten or so officers hitting and kicking him when he is down onthe ground. Honestly, I know the whole "cops are evil" thing is fairly exaggerated...but sh*t like this is not helping their cause.

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Being black in America.....

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Hmm...well I don't like to comment when I only see the conclusion and not the beginning.LJS9502_basic
lol
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#28 lo_Pine
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Apparently if he was in Goleta or Isla Vista this would be relatively legit. So I hear. But you can't even smoke on the sidewalk in Santa Monica what a dumbass, I'df they bust you for smoking there they'll rape you for drinking.
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#29 branketra
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A HUGE gang of cops - about ten of them - assaulted a college student, as you can see here, for drinking a beer which was in a paper bag while walking down the street. What are your thoughts?

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That group of police officers is almost a lynch mob.
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Police get away with this sort of thing on a daily basis.. I've witness it first hand. I wasn't involved but i've seen police bash someone at a bar because they were intoxicated and they could get away with it. They arrested him after beating him and humiliating him. He didn't do anything wrong, in fact is was a bouncer that provoked the entire situation because he and the cops thought it would be funny. This is the problem with giving people power in authority.. they abuse it constantly and they get away with it. They need to be help responsible for their actions and all those officers should face charges and be fired.Rattlesnake_8

Perhaps it's due to lower standards to accomadate having more police officers which in turn allowed politicians to state that they hired more police officers.

Perhaps it's best to raise standards - both physical and mental - and have a reasonable set of laws that can't be abused or shouldn't be in the books because they're victimless crimes. But then again, that depends on the state's needs.

You know Georgia (the country) got rid of its police force and their crime rate decreased. Maybe we should do the same. :P

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#32 shadowkiller11
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Why do you keep using that terrible news source? Also yep that was pretty excessive.
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They were both in the wrong, but the cops could have easily handled the situation much better.General_X
What right did the student break?
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#34 General_X
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[QUOTE="General_X"]They were both in the wrong, but the cops could have easily handled the situation much better.LOXO7
What right did the student break?

Public intoxication is against the law in most cities, as well as drinking in public (the fact that the beverage is in a paper bag is a flimsy loophole to this). But I'm not justifying what the cops did either, they were very much using way too much excessive force. Also another key piece this news story leaves out: "According to Oghogho, a police officer asked him what he was holding and then pushed him. Oghogho admits to CBS2 that he put a hand on the officer's chest to say, 'stop.' " It's never a good idea to touch a police officer, and especially not to issue them a command. They completely overreacted of course but they didn't start wrestling/beating him for no reason either.
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Here's a nice cop. LINK

Did I restore anyone's faith in humanity here?

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nope.
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="General_X"]They were both in the wrong, but the cops could have easily handled the situation much better.General_X
What right did the student break?

Public intoxication is against the law in most cities, as well as drinking in public (the fact that the beverage is in a paper bag is a flimsy loophole to this). But I'm not justifying what the cops did either, they were very much using way too much excessive force.

So it's the government's right to make up laws? The fact that it was in a paper bag means that whatever he is drinking is hidden from public view. In which case his property is protected by the forth amendment. Another fact is an individual has rights. Government doesn't.
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="General_X"]They were both in the wrong, but the cops could have easily handled the situation much better.General_X
What right did the student break?

Public intoxication is against the law in most cities, as well as drinking in public (the fact that the beverage is in a paper bag is a flimsy loophole to this). But I'm not justifying what the cops did either, they were very much using way too much excessive force. Also another key piece this news story leaves out: "According to Oghogho, a police officer asked him what he was holding and then pushed him. Oghogho admits to CBS2 that he put a hand on the officer's chest to say, 'stop.' " It's never a good idea to touch a police officer, and especially not to issue them a command. They completely overreacted of course but they didn't start wrestling/beating him for no reason either.

The officer pushed him? That's worded weird. It's not a good idea to touch anyone else without permission regardless if it is police or not.. F that. The government works for me. I tell what the government can and cannot do. As I said before the government has no rights.
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#38 General_X
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] What right did the student break?

Public intoxication is against the law in most cities, as well as drinking in public (the fact that the beverage is in a paper bag is a flimsy loophole to this). But I'm not justifying what the cops did either, they were very much using way too much excessive force.

So it's the government's right to make up laws? The fact that it was in a paper bag means that whatever he is drinking is hidden from public view. In which case his property is protected by the forth amendment. Another fact is an individual has rights. Government doesn't.

If he appears to be publicly intoxicated they have they are within their rights to ask him about it. Just as much as if a person appears to be inebriated while driving drunk, that's all the reason a cop needs to stop you. Edit: Also it appears I was incorrect, I misread his BAC as .4 instead of .04. He was not legally intoxicated at the time of arrest so the police officers were very much in the wrong.
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="General_X"]Public intoxication is against the law in most cities, as well as drinking in public (the fact that the beverage is in a paper bag is a flimsy loophole to this). But I'm not justifying what the cops did either, they were very much using way too much excessive force.General_X
So it's the government's right to make up laws? The fact that it was in a paper bag means that whatever he is drinking is hidden from public view. In which case his property is protected by the forth amendment. Another fact is an individual has rights. Government doesn't.

If he appears to be publicly intoxicated they have they are within their rights to ask him about it. Just as much as if a person appears to be inebriated while driving drunk, that's all the reason a cop needs to stop you.

As people they have rights to talk to you. That's called the 1st amendment. You have a right not to talk to anyone you please. "You have the right to remain silent." Ring any bells? The police that do this is not wrong, but it's dirty. Because they know most people think that the police have the authority. I would prefer people to know their rights.
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#40 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] So it's the government's right to make up laws? The fact that it was in a paper bag means that whatever he is drinking is hidden from public view. In which case his property is protected by the forth amendment. Another fact is an individual has rights. Government doesn't.LOXO7
If he appears to be publicly intoxicated they have they are within their rights to ask him about it. Just as much as if a person appears to be inebriated while driving drunk, that's all the reason a cop needs to stop you.

As people they have rights to talk to you. That's called the 1st amendment. You have a right not to talk to anyone you please. "You have the right to remain silent." Ring any bells? The police that do this is not wrong, but it's dirty. Because they know most people think that the police have the authority. I would prefer people to know their rights.

Nevermind that. You also have the 5th Amendment that allows you not to answer a cop so that you could possibly incriminate yourself. It's BS when the cop says you're getting in the way and that you can be charged. You can get charged by telling the truth or telling a lie so it's better not to say anything at all or say, "You won't answer that question."

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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="General_X"]If he appears to be publicly intoxicated they have they are within their rights to ask him about it. Just as much as if a person appears to be inebriated while driving drunk, that's all the reason a cop needs to stop you.leviathan91

As people they have rights to talk to you. That's called the 1st amendment. You have a right not to talk to anyone you please. "You have the right to remain silent." Ring any bells? The police that do this is not wrong, but it's dirty. Because they know most people think that the police have the authority. I would prefer people to know their rights.

Nevermind that. You also have the 5th Amendment that allows you not to answer a cop so that you could possibly incriminate yourself. It's BS when the cop says you're getting in the way and that you can be charged. You can get charged by telling the truth or telling a lie so it's better not to say anything at all or say, "You won't answer that question."

Wow. How refreshing. Especially coming from Off Topic. I'm not going to try to forget my rights or waive them either. No way!
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To protect and serve
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"][QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] What right did the student break?

Public intoxication is against the law in most cities, as well as drinking in public (the fact that the beverage is in a paper bag is a flimsy loophole to this). But I'm not justifying what the cops did either, they were very much using way too much excessive force. Also another key piece this news story leaves out: "According to Oghogho, a police officer asked him what he was holding and then pushed him. Oghogho admits to CBS2 that he put a hand on the officer's chest to say, 'stop.' " It's never a good idea to touch a police officer, and especially not to issue them a command. They completely overreacted of course but they didn't start wrestling/beating him for no reason either.

The officer pushed him? That's worded weird. It's not a good idea to touch anyone else without permission regardless if it is police or not.. F that. The government works for me. I tell what the government can and cannot do. As I said before the government has no rights.

Amen.
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Excessive but hey at least the guy is going to be rolling in cash.
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#45 Kocelot
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Gang of Cops.

I think those "Cops" were ex-"gangsters".

They need 10 ppl to take down one unaware suspect/victim.
it is also estimated they need 8 "bruthas" to help a fellow member to whip their way out of a plastic bag.

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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]As people they have rights to talk to you. That's called the 1st amendment. You have a right not to talk to anyone you please. "You have the right to remain silent." Ring any bells? The police that do this is not wrong, but it's dirty. Because they know most people think that the police have the authority. I would prefer people to know their rights. thegerg

Nevermind that. You also have the 5th Amendment that allows you not to answer a cop so that you could possibly incriminate yourself. It's BS when the cop says you're getting in the way and that you can be charged. You can get charged by telling the truth or telling a lie so it's better not to say anything at all or say, "You won't answer that question."

Why would someone say "You won't answer that question" when they're asked a question? That makes no damn sense.

Example:

Cop: "Have you been drinking tonight?"

You: "I will not answer that question."

That is, assuming that you were drinking before but don't want to get charged in the worst possible way. Of course, many factors come into play if the officer has reasonable suspicion such as open bottle, breath, stench, etc.

5th Amendment in detail. LINK

Basically, it's your right to remain silent so you don't incriminate yourself. Lying, however, can bring a set of charges to you so don't do it. If you truly didn't do anything, tell the truth if you're absolutely goddamn sure.

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[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="leviathan91"]

Nevermind that. You also have the 5th Amendment that allows you not to answer a cop so that you could possibly incriminate yourself. It's BS when the cop says you're getting in the way and that you can be charged. You can get charged by telling the truth or telling a lie so it's better not to say anything at all or say, "You won't answer that question."

leviathan91

Why would someone say "You won't answer that question" when they're asked a question? That makes no damn sense.

Example:

Cop: "Have you been drinking tonight?"

You: "You won't answer that question."

That is, assuming that you were drinking before but don't want to get charged in the worst possible way. Of course, many factors come into play if the officer has reasonable suspicion such as open bottle, breath, stench, etc.

5th Amendment in detail. LINK

Basically, it's your right to remain silent so you don't incriminate yourself. Lying, however, can bring a set of charges to you so don't do it. If you truly didn't do anything, tell the truth if you're absolutely goddamn sure.

This is what The Gerg was trying to say. You would not tell someone asking you a question to not answer said question as said question is directed at you.

This is what "grammar nazis" are referring to. The quoted poster stated something and caused someone else to question him as it just does not make sense and negates his argument. Proper syntax will get your point across.

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#50 leviathan91
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Okay I'm sorry, I made a typo, I'm not perfect.

Forgive me?