Global Warming? Today was colder than yesterday.

I thought it was a fact that global temperatures have been rising? However, I don't believe that it is man caused.

Though, wouldn't melting glaciers make the water colder, therefore making winds colder, and temperatures colder? (in some areas?)

howlrunner13

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I thought it was a fact that global temperatures have been rising? However, I don't believe that it is man caused.

Though, wouldn't melting glaciers make the water colder, therefore making winds colder, and temperatures colder? (in some areas?)

Ontain

Ah, ok. My mistake. Didn't think that was right. :P

Yeah I'm surprised we still have winter and snow. I mean, as you say the temperature should only go up, day by day because of this global warming. Yet during autumn it only gets colder. Explain that global warming :x :Phorgen123

There are much bigger problems on earth at the moment. Population anyone? Climate change should be the least of worries.kaangonultas

i donate to greenpeace. from what i have read and heard they are still warring amongst themselves but i tend to side with greenpeace on this global warming issue. sometimes things the government in this country, mainly from heres johnny, say on global warming is suspect when compared to greenpeace. greenpeace told me it is about for the government protecting the interests of dairy companies... of power companies... the interests of companies that are creating this problem in the first place. providing global warming is this serious threat to the planet and is "accelerating". it annoys me much what comes out of the mouth of this prime minister here. it is as if he is intentionally lying with a smile on his face.

Few weeks ago we got a stunning -47 & (-59 with wind chill) :o

Climate Gate anyone? Every year for thye past ten years the climate has dropped...explain that you climate nazi's.

[QUOTE="horgen123"]Yeah I'm surprised we still have winter and snow. I mean, as you say the temperature should only go up, day by day because of this global warming. Yet during autumn it only gets colder. Explain that global warming :x :PBumFluff122

It's a money-making scam. Tenuous assumptions based around political and economic agendas more than ones rooted in conservation of the planet or the human race. Just look at Al Gore and ask yourself if that guy really believes what he preaches. I had a GreenPeace girl roll up on me on a college campus who threw her things on the ground and stormed off when I started laughing and pointing at her real loud when she started preaching about "climate change" (the new term they use, because global warming makes them look like idiots). I just laugh at them. Hard. They usually get all frustrated and walk away, and to that I say good -- maybe they'll go take a frigging shower and get a job.

I'm waiting for Al Gore to come out and blame the Haiti earthquake on global climate change and tell us how its all the republican's fault.

Any geologist worth his credentials will tell you we are living between ice ages.

When I was a kid (a very long time ago) the big scare was the coming ice age.

You know, all these predictions are based on mathematical models. Given the immense size of the earth's atmosphere, and the incredible number of variables that effect it, and the almost inconceivable amount of interaction between all those variables, I seriously question the accuracy of the models.

Add to that all these emails revealing the effort to corrupt the data and de-legitimize any scientists that offered an opposing view, and I'm not sure how you can advocate drastic measures based on these models.

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i think global warming is a joke people trying to get rich off books and other stuff its just sad.

BumFluff122

It's a money-making scam. Tenuous assumptions based around political and economic agendas more than ones rooted in conservation of the planet or the human race. Just look at Al Gore and ask yourself if that guy really believes what he preaches. I had a GreenPeace girl roll up on me on a college campus who threw her things on the ground and stormed off when I started laughing and pointing at her real loud when she started preaching about "climate change" (the new term they use, because global warming makes them look like idiots). I just laugh at them. Hard. They usually get all frustrated and walk away, and to that I say good -- maybe they'll go take a frigging shower and get a job.

Shame-usBlackley

It's a money-making scam. Tenuous assumptions based around political and economic agendas more than ones rooted in conservation of the planet or the human race. Just look at Al Gore and ask yourself if that guy really believes what he preaches. I had a GreenPeace girl roll up on me on a college campus who threw her things on the ground and stormed off when I started laughing and pointing at her real loud when she started preaching about "climate change" (the new term they use, because global warming makes them look like idiots). I just laugh at them. Hard. They usually get all frustrated and walk away, and to that I say good -- maybe they'll go take a frigging shower and get a job.

Shame-usBlackley

I for one believe that the climate goes in cycles. Sure it's getting warmer. Is it our fault? Probably not, definitely not totally. And it'll get colder again years from now. Now excuse me while I go drive donuts in my truck powered by spotted owls and the souls of environmentalists. Penguinchow

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]I for one believe that the climate goes in cycles. Sure it's getting warmer. Is it our fault? Probably not, definitely not totally. And it'll get colder again years from now. Now excuse me while I go drive donuts in my truck powered by spotted owls and the souls of environmentalists. Darthmatt

Measureable proof? No, mere correlation. Merely because I have six soggy bananas next to a bowl of milk doesn't mean they were all put in that bowl of milk.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]I for one believe that the climate goes in cycles. Sure it's getting warmer. Is it our fault? Probably not, definitely not totally. And it'll get colder again years from now. Now excuse me while I go drive donuts in my truck powered by spotted owls and the souls of environmentalists. Darthmatt

Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas then carbon dioxide, and termites and cows produce more methane then all the cars on the road combined produce carbon dioxide.

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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]I for one believe that the climate goes in cycles. Sure it's getting warmer. Is it our fault? Probably not, definitely not totally. And it'll get colder again years from now. Now excuse me while I go drive donuts in my truck powered by spotted owls and the souls of environmentalists. Vandalvideo

Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas then carbon dioxide, and termites and cows produce more methane then all the cars on the road combined produce carbon dioxide.

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Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas then carbon dioxide, and termites and cows produce more methane then all the cars on the road combined produce carbon dioxide.

Engrish_Major

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[QUOTE="Penguinchow"]I for one believe that the climate goes in cycles. Sure it's getting warmer. Is it our fault? Probably not, definitely not totally. And it'll get colder again years from now. Now excuse me while I go drive donuts in my truck powered by spotted owls and the souls of environmentalists. howlrunner13

Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas then carbon dioxide, and termites and cows produce more methane then all the cars on the road combined produce carbon dioxide.

if that is true and it makes global warming "a sham" then this country made one big mistake by spending one billion dollars signing to something called the kyoto protocol. that money could have gone somewhere else... such as health and education but only given that there is no such thing as global warming. just given that global warming is a generation of the media, for instance.zarkon9

[QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas then carbon dioxide, and termites and cows produce more methane then all the cars on the road combined produce carbon dioxide.

Engrish_Major

I have no point, why are you so mean to me? :cry:

Eventually something is going to doom the earth. In the mean time...I'll have fun laughing at all the tin-foil-hat crazies. HAHAHAH

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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]CO2 adds to the greenhouse effect, and humans produce a lot of it. How much effect does it have? That should be the debate, not that it doesn't exist. It's not too inconceivable that we could have a huge effect on climate change. There is a reason why CFCs were banned from commercial products. Because there was measurable proof that human emitted CFC emissions were tearing a hole in the ozone layer.

Darthmatt

Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas then carbon dioxide, and termites and cows produce more methane then all the cars on the road combined produce carbon dioxide.

Yeah, I agree. I didn't really think of what I was saying when I said it. I was thinking of something else at the time. :P

I have no point, why are you so mean to me? :cry:

[QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

I have no point, why are you so mean to me? :cry:

Engrish_Major

I was just joking about you being mean.

And yes, I agree with what you said, I wasn't really thinking when I wrote what I did.

Correlation? CFC is like the terminator to ozone.Darthmatt

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="howlrunner13"]

I have no point, why are you so mean to me? :cry:

howlrunner13

I was just joking about you being mean.

And yes, I agree with what you said, I wasn't really thinking when I wrote what I did.

Climate Gate anyone? Every year for thye past ten years the climate has dropped...explain that you climate nazi's.

rocafelon1001

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Correlation? CFC is like the terminator to ozone.Vandalvideo

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[QUOTE="rook2rook"]

i think global warming is a joke people trying to get rich off books and other stuff its just sad.

Darthmatt

Regardless of the reason, I find it somewhat of a bummer that L.A. has become more of a desert climate than ever before. 30 years ago it used to rain for days at a time every winter and then every other year the rain used to be incredibly heavy and would last for weeks. These days it hardly ever rains at all and when it does it's just a brief shower followed quickly by the clouds retreating and the bloody sun coming out once again to dry everything out.

I suppose I should just migrate North.

CFC, the Chlorine atoms in it cause a catalyst effect when contact with ozone. Something like a single chlorine atom in the atmosphere can break down ten thousand ozone molecules. CFC is also very long lived and hard to extract once added to the atmosphere. Hence it does a lot more damage over time. The Terminator of ozone.Darthmatt

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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Yes. The only reason why this global warming phiasco is on us and all these hundreds of thousands of scientists agree with it is because they all want to sell books on it. I completely agree.

BumFluff122

;3 The movie "The Day After Tomorrow" actually explains what global warming is...maybe you should watch.killab2oo5

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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]I hate to burst your bubble, but there is more money being made off industry that pollutes. Anti polution regulation cost them a lot of money, hence the reason for anti-climate propaganda. The goal is to get people to believe the air they breath contains magic dust that nulifies the greenhouse effect of pumping an aditional 28billion tons of CO2 into the air.

Darthmatt

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]CFC, the Chlorine atoms in it cause a catalyst effect when contact with ozone. Something like a single chlorine atom in the atmosphere can break down ten thousand ozone molecules. CFC is also very long lived and hard to extract once added to the atmosphere. Hence it does a lot more damage over time. The Terminator of ozone.Vandalvideo

It's all a scheme for money and political points and for enviroMENTALists to get what they want. I'm tired of these threads.

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"];3 The movie "The Day After Tomorrow" actually explains what global warming is...maybe you should watch.Dystopian-X

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"];3 The movie "The Day After Tomorrow" actually explains what global warming is...maybe you should watch.Dystopian-X

What a waste of millions.

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"];3 The movie "The Day After Tomorrow" actually explains what global warming is...maybe you should watch.Dystopian-X

But it is enough of a plausible outcome that a commonly used component of countless consumer products was banned. The science is good enough to support the claim.Darthmatt