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#1 MarineJcksn
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http://www.observer.com/2008/stumping-clinton-steinem-says-mccains-p-o-w-cred-overrated

She goes on to call John McCain's experience as a Prisoner of War "overrated". I'm not the biggest McCain fan, but this type of behavior is detrimental to all our military veterans and a slap in the face to McCain personally. The man lost over 5 years of his life in a bamboo cage being tortured so she'd have the right to free speach, and look how he's thanked.

Don't worry Gloria, For those who've fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

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#2 Mythbuster4ever
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Wow, just, what an idiot. She thinks that not experiencing war gives you a better opinion on it.
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#3 Cube_of_MooN
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Let her go through what McCain had to endure, then she can talk.
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http://www.observer.com/2008/stumping-clinton-steinem-says-mccains-p-o-w-cred-overrated

She goes on to call John McCain's experience as a Prisoner of War "overrated". I'm not the biggest McCain fan, but this type of behavior is detrimental to all our military veterans and a slap in the face to McCain personally. The man lost over 5 years of his life in a bamboo cage being tortured so she'd have the right to free speach, and look how he's thanked.

Don't worry Gloria, For those who've fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

MarineJcksn
While certainly not trying to deprive mcCain of the respect he deserves for enduring what he did, the claim that he was a PoW for your freedom is total BS. The war in Vietnam had nothing, zero, zip to do with liberty or freedom of speech. Also it does not make him more qualified to run your country, and he is milking it for all it's worth.
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#5 D9-THC
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The sad thing is, after everything McCain has been through in the name of freedom, he's just as ready to sell his soul to the global elite as Hillary :(
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#6 Oleg_Huzwog
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Who is Gloria Steinem?
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#7 Ninja-Hippo
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Ah, flippantly commenting on the horrors of war as a bystander. Something which never seems to stop.
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#8 spawnassasin
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Who is Gloria Steinem?Oleg_Huzwog

exactly

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#9 shoeman12
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wow, he lost years of his life to defend her right to say that. i hope she goes through what POW's go through, then maybe she'll appreicate veterans sacrifices a little more.
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#10 MattUD1
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Who is Gloria Steinem?Oleg_Huzwog
A moron apparently.
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[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

http://www.observer.com/2008/stumping-clinton-steinem-says-mccains-p-o-w-cred-overrated

She goes on to call John McCain's experience as a Prisoner of War "overrated". I'm not the biggest McCain fan, but this type of behavior is detrimental to all our military veterans and a slap in the face to McCain personally. The man lost over 5 years of his life in a bamboo cage being tortured so she'd have the right to free speach, and look how he's thanked.

Don't worry Gloria, For those who've fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

shivaskunk9mm

While certainly not trying to deprive mcCain of the respect he deserves for enduring what he did, the claim that he was a PoW for your freedom is total BS. The war in Vietnam had nothing, zero, zip to do with liberty or freedom of speech. Also it does not make him more qualified to run your country, and he is milking it for all it's worth.

Yeah, nothing towards McCain or what he went through, but Vietnam has nothing to do with our freedoms really. Maybe if it was something like WW2 then yeah, but as for Vietnam, what he went through was actually a waste of 5 years of his life for nothing, unfortunantly.

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In all seriousness... McCain's experience as a POW is pretty close to irrelevant when it comes to running a country... From that perspective, it is overrated.
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[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

http://www.observer.com/2008/stumping-clinton-steinem-says-mccains-p-o-w-cred-overrated

She goes on to call John McCain's experience as a Prisoner of War "overrated". I'm not the biggest McCain fan, but this type of behavior is detrimental to all our military veterans and a slap in the face to McCain personally. The man lost over 5 years of his life in a bamboo cage being tortured so she'd have the right to free speach, and look how he's thanked.

Don't worry Gloria, For those who've fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

shivaskunk9mm

While certainly not trying to deprive mcCain of the respect he deserves for enduring what he did, the claim that he was a PoW for your freedom is total BS. The war in Vietnam had nothing, zero, zip to do with liberty or freedom of speech. Also it does not make him more qualified to run your country, and he is milking it for all it's worth.

Indeed. Nam was just the meddlings of a crazy, anti-commie, cold-war America. Iraq is the same thing.

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#14 InterpolWilco
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Wow, this is so infuriating that I don't even know what to say.

And btw, you wonder why Hillary Clinton is having such a hard time getting votes, it cause of ridiculous personal attacks by her supporters.

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#15 SmashBrosLegend
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She can criticize his politics all she wants, but this is absolutely ridiculous. I sincerely hope that she falls down the stairs.
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#17 Insane00
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What is sad is that McCain's time as a POW is perhaps the only reason I have to support him and trust his opinion on an important matter during this election, that is torture.

However, being as he has changed his stance on many issues over the last 8 years to appeal to the extreme conservatives (i.e. Immigration reform, Fiscal responcibility) I have no reason to trust him on any other issue. As a result I see the man as a sellout.

Of course that isn't to say anyone else isn't, just to say that while years ago I may have supported him, now I see him as just another republican flunky that does what the party says. This land needs a person who is able to think outside party lines.

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#18 fidosim
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+1 for McCain. Keep it coming Gloria!

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Isn't she Christian Bale's stepmother?
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I'd like to see Gloria spend 5 years in a Vietnamese prison camp while being tortured.

Then I'd like to see her try to voice that same opinion.

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#21 comp_atkins
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the nuts are coming out of the woodwork.. this lady supports clinton. that crazy anti-catholic guy supports mcain.. somewhere obama is smiling...

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For those people who say his POW experience has no basis on how he'd run the country, I'm inclined to think you must be smoking something. Enormous character, courage and integrity in the face of pain and torture that only a handful of US citizens will ever experience, yeah....that wouldn't give him ANY credibility.:roll:

The man had a chance to go home early and refused unless his fellow captives could go free as well. You seriously think Obama or Clinton would make that kind of personal sacrifice? Please

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For those people who say his POW experience has no basis on how he'd run the country, I'm inclined to think you must be smoking something. Enormous character, courage and integrity in the face of pain and torture that only a handful of US citizens will ever experience, yeah....that wouldn't give him ANY credibility.:roll:

The man had a chance to go home early and refused unless his fellow captives could go free as well. You seriously think Obama or Clinton would make that kind of personal sacrifice? Please

MarineJcksn
Who's talking about credibility?To endure being a PoW for five years while being subjected to torture is certainly something to respect and admire, but it DOES NOT give any qualifications to a run a country. He's not expected to endure any length of physical torture during his precidency. His experience as a PoW is used as nothing but a pitch to win votes, and has no bearing on his capabilties to lead the U.S, unless his stay in uncle ho's victory garden rendered him bat**** insane, and he invades nam to seek revenge. If that happens i'll gladly accept "teh ownage" on the internets.
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#24 duxup
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Who cares what Gloria Steinem says?
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#25 Kcube
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Let her go through what McCain had to endure, then she can talk.Cube_of_MooN

I agree,She wants to run her mouth then lock her in a bamboo cage for 5 years.

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#26 Termite551
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No idea who this lady is, doesn't detract from McCain being a **** who shouldn't run a country. And vietnam (As a previous poster said) has nothing to do with freedom.
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#27 bman784
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This lady is an idiot, but you're taking her point out of context. She's saying the McCain's POW tenure doesn't qualify him to be president of the United States, which is a reasonable conjecture. The rest of the mindless feminist rhetoric like the "Joan McCain" quip or the "Obama is getting votes because people want to make amends for racism" is BS. The lady isn't smart, but you missed the point.
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#28 The_Ish
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Who is Gloria Steinem?Oleg_Huzwog

An inconsequential moron.

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For those people who say his POW experience has no basis on how he'd run the country, I'm inclined to think you must be smoking something. Enormous character, courage and integrity in the face of pain and torture that only a handful of US citizens will ever experience, yeah....that wouldn't give him ANY credibility.:roll:

The man had a chance to go home early and refused unless his fellow captives could go free as well. You seriously think Obama or Clinton would make that kind of personal sacrifice? Please

MarineJcksn

How do you know that they wouldn't react in an equally galant manner?

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Isn't she Christian Bale's stepmother?Cerussite

That's exactly right partner, she was married to his father for 3 years until he died.

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#31 Mr_Manikin52
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Gloria is a Pro-Hillary Clinton feminist.

She should NEVER trash McCain's POW ordeal. McCain has a long career in the U.S. Senate. Is he qualified to be president? Absolutely!

As for John Hagee's endorsement for McCain, that dang cooky Catholic bashing Christian radical. Hagee should just get his butt kicked by Chuck Norris!

Mike Huckabee '08

Huckamania is runing wild!

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[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

http://www.observer.com/2008/stumping-clinton-steinem-says-mccains-p-o-w-cred-overrated

She goes on to call John McCain's experience as a Prisoner of War "overrated". I'm not the biggest McCain fan, but this type of behavior is detrimental to all our military veterans and a slap in the face to McCain personally. The man lost over 5 years of his life in a bamboo cage being tortured so she'd have the right to free speach, and look how he's thanked.

Don't worry Gloria, For those who've fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.

shivaskunk9mm

While certainly not trying to deprive mcCain of the respect he deserves for enduring what he did, the claim that he was a PoW for your freedom is total BS. The war in Vietnam had nothing, zero, zip to do with liberty or freedom of speech. Also it does not make him more qualified to run your country, and he is milking it for all it's worth.


He fought to liberate the oppresssed.

You say that McCain's background as a former prisoner of war has nothing to do with him being more qualified to be president, but what says more about a man's qualifications than his character?

During Vietnam, he was imprisoned along with other U.S. soldiers. After his captors realized that his father was a high-ranking official in the U.S., they offered him the chance to be immediately released, unarmed. His response was that he would not leave without the rest of his men. Instead of being released, he was tortured as a form of punishment for ruining their attempts at using his release as propaganda.

In what way does this not make him more qualified to run a country? Aside from his experience as a POW, he has also served a long time as a U.S. Sentator. Under what grounds does she have the right (not talking legally) to bash him for his background?

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Silly americans..
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Who is Gloria Steinem?Oleg_Huzwog

That's what I asked.

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#35 SilentFireX
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Who is Gloria Steinem?cametall

That's what I asked.

Extreme feminist from the 60's. She's also bashed housewives for making themselves subservient to men. Raising children is much harder than any other profession, and mothers do not deserve to be insulted.

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McCain is an america hero no matter what ur politics are, this lady needs shot
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Who is Gloria Steinem?Oleg_Huzwog

A ********...

much like Hitlery Rotten-Clinton.

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The last person who should be in office is Barack Obama. Next worst is Hillary, and Mccain is slightly less intolerable...so I'm voting for him.
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#39 MarineJcksn
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Gloria is a Pro-Hillary Clinton feminist.

She should NEVER trash McCain's POW ordeal. McCain has a long career in the U.S. Senate. Is he qualified to be president? Absolutely!

As for John Hagee's endorsement for McCain, that dang cooky Catholic bashing Christian radical. Hagee should just get his butt kicked by Chuck Norris!

Mike Huckabee '08

Huckamania is runing wild!

Mr_Manikin52

I grew up watching John Hagee cuz my parents really liked the guy, he's a real "fire and brimstone" type of preacher, guess that's why McCain wants to distance himself. You're absolutely right that McCain is qualified for prez btw.