Gun Control: For or Against

This is a pretty sensitive subject, and I think it would be interesting, to say the least, on how you guys view gun ownership and conrol.

Also you should note if you do own guns or not.

Notice how half the problems in the world have to do with murder and guns?

So I guess I'm against ownership...?

I don't own a gun nor will I ever own a gun. They're fun at a shooting range but that doesn't justify owning them. They aren't using for shooting clay pidgeons, that's not their purpose; it's to kill things. It might kill you, or someone else, but one way or another, I don't like the whole concept.quiglythegreat

I'm all for gun control, but by no means should guns be banned. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. LukeAF24

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]I don't own a gun nor will I ever own a gun. They're fun at a shooting range but that doesn't justify owning them. They aren't using for shooting clay pidgeons, that's not their purpose; it's to kill things. It might kill you, or someone else, but one way or another, I don't like the whole concept.VetteMan85

[QUOTE="VetteMan85"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]I don't own a gun nor will I ever own a gun. They're fun at a shooting range but that doesn't justify owning them. They aren't using for shooting clay pidgeons, that's not their purpose; it's to kill things. It might kill you, or someone else, but one way or another, I don't like the whole concept.quiglythegreat

Very much against banning guns. I'm in favor of background checks, and other laws of that nature. I do wish that they would actually start prosecuting people who attempt to purchase firearms illegally.

The statistics I've read have indicated that over 80-90% of homicide victims in the US have existing criminal records. In some cities more than 1/3 of the homicide victims had been in jail within the past 90 days. These deaths are drug and gang related and would probably still happen even if the best weapon they could get their hands on was a pocket knife..

[QUOTE="VetteMan85"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]I don't own a gun nor will I ever own a gun. They're fun at a shooting range but that doesn't justify owning them. They aren't using for shooting clay pidgeons, that's not their purpose; it's to kill things. It might kill you, or someone else, but one way or another, I don't like the whole concept.quiglythegreat

If your inside your house during a breaking and entering attempt, many times will the person simply try to kill you, THEN take your stuff. Happens all the time in this country. Slit throats and missing TV's.

Personally, i'd like to put a bullet in their head, ridding the world of that person, saving my family, and preserving my television.

If someone breaks into my house while I or anyone else in my family is home, they are dead, period. Don't wanna get shot? Don't break into people's homes. If someone with a CCW license gets attacked, they can defend themselves and kill them. Don't want to get killed? Don't mug someone. You don't want to end the criminal in his tracks? Then don't. That's your choice and right, just as I have mine.VetteMan85

If your inside your house during a breaking and entering attempt, many times will the person simply try to kill you, THEN take your stuff. Happens all the time in this country. Slit throats and missing TV's.

Personally, i'd like to put a bullet in their head, ridding the world of that person, saving my family, and preserving my television.

Tolwan

[QUOTE="VetteMan85"]If someone breaks into my house while I or anyone else in my family is home, they are dead, period. Don't wanna get shot? Don't break into people's homes. If someone with a CCW license gets attacked, they can defend themselves and kill them. Don't want to get killed? Don't mug someone. You don't want to end the criminal in his tracks? Then don't. That's your choice and right, just as I have mine.quiglythegreat

Notice how half the problems in the world have to do with murder and guns?

So I guess I'm against ownership...?

msudude211

Actually 90% of the worlds problems are starvation and disease. But that aside, I'm speaking of gun control for the US, maybe Europe and Eastern Asia.

Home Invasion

"Home invasion robbers, in contrast, work more often at night and on weekends when homes are more likely to be occupied. The home invader will sometimes target the resident as well as the dwelling. The selection process may include a woman living alone, a wealthy senior citizen or a known drug dealer, for example. It is not unheard of for a robber to follow you home based on the value of the car you are driving or the jewelry you are wearing. Some home invaders might have been in your home before as a delivery person, installer or repair vendor. Home robbers rarely work alone and rely on an overwhelming physical confrontation to gain initial control and instill fear in you. The greatest violence usually occurs during the initial sixty seconds of the confrontation and home invaders often come prepared with handcuffs, rope, duct tape, and firearms. Some in-home robbers appear to enjoy the intimidation, domination, and violence and some even claim it's a "rush.""

I don't own a gun...unless you count airsoft guns. in that case, I own six :P

I don't think any civilian should be able to own anything more than a small handgun with a very small amount of ammo, and they shouldn't be allowed to take it outside of their property without background checks, special permits, and stuff like that.

I don't own a gun...unless you count airsoft guns. in that case, I own six :P

I don't think any civilian should be able to own anything more than a small handgun with a very small amount of ammo, and they shouldn't be allowed to take it outside of their property without background checks, special permits, and stuff like that.

Ryeferd

i dont think civillians should have guns period.. but now that a lot do, even MORE want guns for self protection.. its a paradox now..

Home Invasion

bobwill1

See? We need guns!

[QUOTE="LukeAF24"]I'm all for gun control, but by no means should guns be banned. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. quiglythegreat

If anyone wants to really kill someone, not only are they going to do it, but if they want to use a gun they can still get one illegally. If all the guns in the world could just dissapear forever then I would be happy, but banning them isn't really going to do anything.

I don't own a gun...unless you count airsoft guns. in that case, I own six :P

I don't think any civilian should be able to own anything more than a small handgun with a very small amount of ammo, and they shouldn't be allowed to take it outside of their property without background checks, special permits, and stuff like that.

Ryeferd

There are strict rules when you leave your home with a fire arm.

If you don't have a concealed carry license, you can only transport your gun in your car and you have to either have your gun in plain sight in the back seat, or it must be out of view in the trunk, and they must be covered

To get a concealed carry license, you have to go through classes and an extensive background check. Which means that if you've broken any laws, then you aren't allowed to own or carry a weapon. Which is a good thing. If everyone knew that every sane, law

Edit: I forgot to add, that you have to take a one week class in order to get your concealed carry license.

i beleive in gun control. gun control is being able to hold the thing stready, and hit the intended target. thats gun control.

but anyway, i belive in gun control, but i also think people are taking it too far. the kids at Columbine broke 18 guns laws going in there, and afterward everyone was like "WE NEED MORE GUN CONTROL!!! PASS MORE LAWS!!!" do you really think 2 or 3 more laws are going to make that big of a difference?

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="VetteMan85"]If someone breaks into my house while I or anyone else in my family is home, they are dead, period. Don't wanna get shot? Don't break into people's homes. If someone with a CCW license gets attacked, they can defend themselves and kill them. Don't want to get killed? Don't mug someone. You don't want to end the criminal in his tracks? Then don't. That's your choice and right, just as I have mine.VetteMan85

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"]I'm all for gun control, but by no means should guns be banned. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Etheral_Filcher

If anyone wants to really kill someone, not only are they going to do it, but if they want to use a gun they can still get one illegally. If all the guns in the world could just dissapear forever then I would be happy, but banning them isn't really going to do anything.

For because Consititution says so, we start breaking the Constitution our nation will far apart(btw, im a liberal)911_conspiracy

The second amendment says everyone has rights to bare arms in a well regulated militia. I doubt an average joe is a well regulated militia

[QUOTE="VetteMan85"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="VetteMan85"]If someone breaks into my house while I or anyone else in my family is home, they are dead, period. Don't wanna get shot? Don't break into people's homes. If someone with a CCW license gets attacked, they can defend themselves and kill them. Don't want to get killed? Don't mug someone. You don't want to end the criminal in his tracks? Then don't. That's your choice and right, just as I have mine.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="911_conspiracy"]For because Consititution says so, we start breaking the Constitution our nation will far apart(btw, im a liberal)Ring_of_fire

The second amendment says everyone has rights to bare arms in a well regulated militia. I doubt an average joe is a well regulated militia

A gun is neither defensive or offensive. It can only do what it's wielder wishes. Us law abiding citizens prefer to use them for defense.VetteMan85

[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

[QUOTE="911_conspiracy"]For because Consititution says so, we start breaking the Constitution our nation will far apart(btw, im a liberal)VetteMan85

The second amendment says everyone has rights to bare arms in a well regulated militia. I doubt an average joe is a well regulated militia

[QUOTE="VetteMan85"]A gun is neither defensive or offensive. It can only do what it's wielder wishes. Us law abiding citizens prefer to use them for defense.quiglythegreat

This is a pretty sensitive subject, and I think it would be interesting, to say the least, on how you guys view gun ownership and conrol.

Also you should note if you do own guns or not.

Infinite-Zr0

when it comes down to it, gun control is about people rather than guns :)

I do not own a gun, and gun ownership should be restricted.

People under 21 should not have them.

People with mental disorders of any kind should not have them.

People with families should not have them.

People going to school should not have them.

People without a job should not have them.

And finally, there should be some kind of test to prove that the people meet these qualifications.

[QUOTE="Etheral_Filcher"]

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"]I'm all for gun control, but by no means should guns be banned. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. quiglythegreat

If anyone wants to really kill someone, not only are they going to do it, but if they want to use a gun they can still get one illegally. If all the guns in the world could just dissapear forever then I would be happy, but banning them isn't really going to do anything.

Oh ye of little knowledge. You HAVE to take cl*sses to get a concealed carry license, and thats never gonna change, no matter how much gun control goes away. So people won't be going out there all paranoid blasting anyone who they think is gonna mug them.
Also, people who say they're gonna commit suicide for attention aren't gonna blow themselves up with a gun. People who really do want to kill themselves do. If they want attention, they threaten to jump off a building or something.
Also considering the number of people saved would greatly out number the number of idiots who want to kill themselves.

Note: For some reason the word c l a s s is censored

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="VetteMan85"]A gun is neither defensive or offensive. It can only do what it's wielder wishes. Us law abiding citizens prefer to use them for defense.VetteMan85

People will still be killing people no matter what... it'll only be harder to for them to get them.Sim_genius

it'll only be harder for SOME people to get guns, you will still have them in the black market and such, so they will still be in circulation. It's just like when everyone says "We'll disarm all of our nukes." despite said fact there will still be nukes around because people are paranoid animals.

[QUOTE="VetteMan85"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="VetteMan85"]A gun is neither defensive or offensive. It can only do what it's wielder wishes. Us law abiding citizens prefer to use them for defense.quiglythegreat

Oh ye of little knowledge. You HAVE to take cl*sses to get a concealed carry license, and thats never gonna change, no matter how much gun control goes away. So people won't be going out there all paranoid blasting anyone who they think is gonna mug them.
Also, people who say they're gonna commit suicide for attention aren't gonna blow themselves up with a gun. People who really do want to kill themselves do. If they want attention, they threaten to jump off a building or something.
Also considering the number of people saved would greatly out number the number of idiots who want to kill themselves.

Note: For some reason the word c l a s s is censored

Infinite-Zr0

If they are criminals, they are worth nothing. They know the law and they CHOSE to do it anyway. And it's not "kind of my thing". It's 50% of America's and around 40% of Canada's thing. Again, if you don't like it, then don't buy a gun and don't break into my house.VetteMan85

[QUOTE="VetteMan85"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="VetteMan85"]A gun is neither defensive or offensive. It can only do what it's wielder wishes. Us law abiding citizens prefer to use them for defense.quiglythegreat

I'm sure you're all for letting someone enter your house un invinted so they can steal all your belongings and possibly harm loved ones?? When it comes down to it you're not only protecting your property, but yourself and possibly others, so you can't just say "Well they're people too." While that may be true they have made a choice and like everyone else must live with the end result.

[QUOTE="VetteMan85"]If they are criminals, they are worth nothing. They know the law and they CHOSE to do it anyway. And it's not "kind of my thing". It's 50% of America's and around 40% of Canada's thing. Again, if you don't like it, then don't buy a gun and don't break into my house.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="Infinite-Zr0"]

Oh ye of little knowledge. You HAVE to take cl*sses to get a concealed carry license, and thats never gonna change, no matter how much gun control goes away. So people won't be going out there all paranoid blasting anyone who they think is gonna mug them.
Also, people who say they're gonna commit suicide for attention aren't gonna blow themselves up with a gun. People who really do want to kill themselves do. If they want attention, they threaten to jump off a building or something.
Also considering the number of people saved would greatly out number the number of idiots who want to kill themselves.

Note: For some reason the word c l a s s is censored

quiglythegreat

No, it's called deterrence. Just like nukes.
Many times robbers run into gas station and pawn shops with knives, but run at first sight of a gun in the clerks hands, where the clerk doesn't even have to fire a single bullet to prevent the crime.

If some petty thief knows that there is a 75% chance that the person in there has a gun, he's gonna think twice before robbing them.

No, it's called deterrence. Just like nukes.
Many times robbers run into gas station and pawn shops with knives, but run at first sight of a gun in the clerks hands, where the clerk doesn't even have to fire a single bullet to prevent the crime.

If some petty thief knows that there is a 75% chance that the person in there has a gun, he's gonna think twice before robbing them.

Infinite-Zr0