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#1 IIRubenII
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Just read an article online, saying that a man got robbed by a 300lb guy, took his sawed off shotgun away from the robber, and shot him. Protecting his 2 children and his wife, from 2 guys breaking in.

My thoughts are, I'm thinking about acquiring a gun for the home, although I don't have any kids, I was robbed earlier this year by 3 guys with a gun to my face and back while they took everything I had. Now I read this, what do you think? Do you have a gun at home, or do you feel as if we should have one just for protection?

Picture yourself being robbed at your own place, even worse, think of your family...I'm lucky no one was with me at my apartment when it happened, and my fiancee was on her way home from work! Imagine?!

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No guns yet. I live in Florida so I probably will eventually.
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Just read an article online, saying that a man got robbed by a 300lb guy, took his sawed off shotgun away from the robber, and shot him. Protecting his 2 children and his wife, from 2 guys breaking in.

My thoughts are, I'm thinking about acquiring a gun for the home, although I don't have any kids, I was robbed earlier this year by 3 guys with a gun to my face and back while they took everything I had. Now I read this, what do you think? Do you have a gun at home, or do you feel as if we should have one just for protection?

Picture yourself being robbed at your own place, even worse, think of your family...I'm lucky no one was with me at my apartment when it happened, and my fiancee was on her way home from work! Imagine?!

IIRubenII

Was the guy threatening his family? or could have simple given him what he wanted and still protect his family?

And i want the link

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Was the guy threatening his family? or could have simple given him what he wanted and still protect his family?

And i want the link

Beatles401

I'm sure if a guy had a gun to your family it would be considered a threat.

As for the question I don't have a gun I live with my mom still so... but I do have like 4 swords and a couple of knives, along with some decent fighting skills. So if he comes in close proximity with a gun I'll probably just cut him with one of my knives or swords.

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[QUOTE="Beatles401"]

Was the guy threatening his family? or could have simple given him what he wanted and still protect his family?

And i want the link

blackldragon

I'm sure if a guy had a gun to your family it would be considered a threat.

it doesn't say any thing about were his family was. They could have been sleeping for all you know:?

i still want the link

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I'm loaded and armed like fort Knocks here.
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i personally dont think they shouldnt sell guns to the public only police and millitary but depending on the area you live in and the crime rate if it was high i would probly get one
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[QUOTE="IIRubenII"]

Just read an article online, saying that a man got robbed by a 300lb guy, took his sawed off shotgun away from the robber, and shot him. Protecting his 2 children and his wife, from 2 guys breaking in.

My thoughts are, I'm thinking about acquiring a gun for the home, although I don't have any kids, I was robbed earlier this year by 3 guys with a gun to my face and back while they took everything I had. Now I read this, what do you think? Do you have a gun at home, or do you feel as if we should have one just for protection?

Picture yourself being robbed at your own place, even worse, think of your family...I'm lucky no one was with me at my apartment when it happened, and my fiancee was on her way home from work! Imagine?!

Beatles401

Was the guy threatening his family? or could have simple given him what he wanted and still protect his family?

And i want the link

:lol: I bet criminals wish every victim was like you.
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[QUOTE="IIRubenII"]

Just read an article online, saying that a man got robbed by a 300lb guy, took his sawed off shotgun away from the robber, and shot him. Protecting his 2 children and his wife, from 2 guys breaking in.

My thoughts are, I'm thinking about acquiring a gun for the home, although I don't have any kids, I was robbed earlier this year by 3 guys with a gun to my face and back while they took everything I had. Now I read this, what do you think? Do you have a gun at home, or do you feel as if we should have one just for protection?

Picture yourself being robbed at your own place, even worse, think of your family...I'm lucky no one was with me at my apartment when it happened, and my fiancee was on her way home from work! Imagine?!

Beatles401

Was the guy threatening his family? or could have simple given him what he wanted and still protect his family?

And i want the link

Robbery Link

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When i was like 5 or 6, my grandpa's house got robbed. While the robber sneaked into the house, he got his .38 special S&W and put two bullets through the guys chest, and killed him instantly. They found out the robber was carrying a stolen .45 handgun. When my grandpa died, I got the gun. So if anyone tries to break into my house, they'll get a couple holes put into them.....
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i personally dont think they shouldnt sell guns to the public only police and millitary but depending on the area you live in and the crime rate if it was high i would probly get onerapsrule4

I dont see the point. MOST bad people get guns off the street. Taking away guns would only make more people commit crimes by buying them illegally.

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Here's the story if no one wants to click on the link:

BLUE MOUND -- Grappling over a shotgun with a 300-pound man who had just burst into his home and threatened his wife, Keith Hoehn had but one thought.

"It was like a horror movie," he said. "I thought I was a dead man. We're fighting for our lives."

The overnight crime spree began late Tuesday when two suspects robbed a family in north Fort Worth and then drove the family's van to Blue Mound where they tried to do the same thing at the Globe Street home of Keith and Kellie Hoehn.

"Very overt, very crazy" is how Blue Mound Police Lt. Thomas Cain described the fracas.

The Hoehns, both 34, feared that they and their children were about to be killed, so they battled the suspects.

Keith Hoehn struggled to get the sawed-off shotgun, while his wife grabbed the muzzle, trying to keep it pointed away from the rooms of the couple's son, 12, and 5-year-old daughter.

That went on for about five minutes, Keith Hoehn said.

He finally managed to get the shotgun away from the larger of the two attackers and turned it on both of them.

Dakota Scott Benoit, 20, of Richland Hills was fatally wounded and John Garland Pierson, 25, of Haltom City was in critical condition and police custody at the hospital.

Keith Hoehn, a subcontractor who works with water filtration systems, stood on his blood-sprinkled porch Wednesday and wearily retold his story to a steady stream of journalists.

His knuckles were scraped raw and his back and legs were marked by cuts and bruises. Kellie Hoehn preferred to let her husband do most of the talking.

"We have been crying for hours, wondering how we even survived," Keith Hoehn said. "How could I have fought off a 300-pound man? When he got shot he kept coming. I got to figure he wasn't sober."

'SNATCH AND GRAB AND GO'

Public records show that Benoit and Pierson both have extensive criminal histories.

The Blue Mound incident was the second home invasion they tried to pull off late Tuesday and early Wednesday, investigators said.

The first one was reported at 11:11 p.m. on Calico Rock Drive in Fort Worth, about a mile east of the home in Blue Mound, according to police reports.

Cain and Lt. Paul Henderson, Fort Worth police spokesman, said they didn't know how the robbers chose which houses to hit.

Keith Hoehn said he didn't know the robbers or why they targeted his home.

Perhaps, Cain said, they were "crimes of opportunity."

"Just snatch and grab and go," he said.

In the first incident, the gun-wielding men entered the home on Calico Rock Drive through an open garage door and went to a bedroom where they confronted the 38-year-old homeowner and his wife, Henderson said.

They demanded valuables, Henderson said.

The homeowner, Henderson said, is a participant in the police department's Code Blue crime watch program, and the gunmen took his police radio.

They also got a laptop, a wallet, a jewelry box, and the family's van -- a red Honda Odyssey, Henderson said.

"Children were inside the house asleep and were not harmed," Henderson said. "There were no reported injuries during this robbery."

'I SCREAMED FOR MY HUSBAND'

The men took the loot and drove the family's red van to the home in Blue Mound. They kicked in the front door there at about 12:23 p.m., police said.

"I was sleeping and all of a sudden they busted through the door," Keith Hoehn said. "My wife had a 12-gauge in her face, and he told her 'Don't you scream, **** or I'll blow your F-in head off.'

"Well ... she did scream."

"I screamed for my husband," Kellie Hoehn said.

The gunman turned the Remington 870 pump-action shotgun toward Keith Hoehn.

"I thought he was going to blow my head plumb off," Hoehn said.

But Kellie grabbed the muzzle, and the struggle began.

"We just tackled him," Keith Hoehn said of the man, who probably outweighed him by about 90 pounds.

"I'm 220 (pounds)," he said. "All I could do was try to hold onto that shotgun.

"My wife was trying to keep the muzzle away from the kids' rooms. I looked down and I saw he was pulling on the trigger the whole time.

"I found out later that the safety was on -- praise the Lord."

Kellie let go long enough to grab a jar candle, Keith said, "and she popped him in the head."

Then she started battling the attacker's accomplice who had a handgun, Keith said. The couple's son grabbed his little sister and they hid in a closet with a pellet gun, Keith said.

'HE GOT RIGHT BACK UP'

The fracas spilled out onto the front lawn, where Keith Hoehn finally seized the shotgun.

He fumbled with the safety and then shot at Pierson, who was already in the van, wounding him.

"My wife said he had a gun," Keith said. "I didn't know if he was going to shoot us."

Then he fired at Benoit.

"He got right back up," Keith said, "and started charging me again.

"Well, I shot him again, and I guess that was it."

Police and ambulance crews arrived and took Benoit to John Peter Smith Hospital. He died at 1:13 a.m. in the emergency room from gunshot wounds to the chest and abdomen, according to the Tarrant County medical examiner's office.

Pierson, meanwhile, ran to the office complex for Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad, 2600 Lou Menk Drive in Fort Worth, about a mile north of the home on Globe.

Railroad police found him trying to clean up in a company fountain, Henderson said.

Pierson was turned over to Fort Worth police and was then taken to JPS where he was in critical condition Wednesday, Henderson said.

Cain said he was preparing an arrest warrant for Pierson on a charge of burglary of a habitation with intent to commit another felony.

Henderson speculated that Keith Hoehn probably won't face charges for killing Benoit, although it is common for a grand jury to review such a case.

MULTIPLE CONVICTIONS

Tarrant County records show Pierson has nine convictions dating to 2000 on drug charges, theft, assault and unlawfully carrying a weapon.

He was most recently sentenced to 45 days in jail on July 17 on a misdemeanor conviction of possession of marijuana, records show.

Benoit was sentenced to three years deferred adjudication probation in May 2007 on two charges of possession of a controlled substance, one out of Haltom City and the other out of Euless.

Court records show he also had a misdemeanor conviction for criminal trespassing.

Cain said he couldn't explain why Benoit, having been hit once with buckshot, would come back to fight some more.

"A person in (his) right mind wouldn't do that," Cain said. "This (was) very overt, very crazy.

"It seems like they weren't in their full faculties."

The Hoehns on Wednesday were left with questions that may never get answered.

"Why couldn't he just steal my car?" Keith Hoehn asked. "Why come into my house? You wouldn't have gotten anything more."

He concluded that his family was alive Wednesday through God's protection and his wife's courage.

"She's the one who set things in motion," he said. "Most people would probably say 'Take what you want,' but we thought we were going to die.

"I'm sorry it had to happen, but I can't help the way people are."

Staff Writer Deanna Boyd contributed to this report.

Bill Miller, 817-390-7684

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it doesn't say any thing about were his family was. They could have been sleeping for all you know:?

i still want the link

Beatles401

It doesn't matter where his kids and wife where they were still in the house with "armed" robbers if anything had gotten down there is a "possility" that they might harm/kill them. Man I would never want to be around you if you were getting robbed.

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Ironically, my dad sent his guns to my uncle in Tallahassee, because he was worried the guns might be stolen :?
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Well I dont really live in a dangerous area, and I dont think owning guns and break-ins are common. So I dont want a gun since I'm not sure I could fire it at someone. I'd rather swing a bat or something.
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Just read an article online, saying that a man got robbed by a 300lb guy, took his sawed off shotgun away from the robber, and shot him. Protecting his 2 children and his wife, from 2 guys breaking in.

My thoughts are, I'm thinking about acquiring a gun for the home, although I don't have any kids, I was robbed earlier this year by 3 guys with a gun to my face and back while they took everything I had. Now I read this, what do you think? Do you have a gun at home, or do you feel as if we should have one just for protection?

Picture yourself being robbed at your own place, even worse, think of your family...I'm lucky no one was with me at my apartment when it happened, and my fiancee was on her way home from work! Imagine?!

IIRubenII

owning a gun is definitely a good idea?

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Yep I have a few shot guns in my house and a bolt action rifle. I believe every person should be allowed a gun. Criminals will get them no matter what so you should at least give them to regular citizens, plus it say I have the right in the constitution and if anyone argues that, well move to another country or something I don't care. It's gonna be hard to get that amendment overturned.
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[QUOTE="IIRubenII"]

Just read an article online, saying that a man got robbed by a 300lb guy, took his sawed off shotgun away from the robber, and shot him. Protecting his 2 children and his wife, from 2 guys breaking in.

My thoughts are, I'm thinking about acquiring a gun for the home, although I don't have any kids, I was robbed earlier this year by 3 guys with a gun to my face and back while they took everything I had. Now I read this, what do you think? Do you have a gun at home, or do you feel as if we should have one just for protection?

Picture yourself being robbed at your own place, even worse, think of your family...I'm lucky no one was with me at my apartment when it happened, and my fiancee was on her way home from work! Imagine?!

H8sMikeMoore

owning a gun is definitely a good idea?

Well it depends on the area. Although it's definatley not a negative( unless you have kids and foolishly leave it ready to go in an child-accessable area)
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If you're Going to buy a gun, get this. Im a weapons dealer, you like? I sold to the Russians, the US and the french

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I see nothing wrong with using a weapon for protecting your property or family.
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#21 blackldragon
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Ironically, my dad sent his guns to my uncle in Tallahassee, because he was worried the guns might be stolen :?DivergeUnify

I actually lol'd at that.

If you're Going to buy a gun, get this. Im a weapons dealer, you like? I sold to the Russians, the US and the french

Kamekazi_69

Why in the world would you sell that to the French. Yes.... I went there.

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[QUOTE="Beatles401"]

it doesn't say any thing about were his family was. They could have been sleeping for all you know:?

i still want the link

blackldragon

Man I would never want to be around you if you were getting robbed.

Gee thanks:roll:

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I own 6 Guns:D All handguns im not into long range shooting. So put the 2nd amendment to good use8)
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I own 6 Guns:D All handguns im not into long range shooting. So put the 2nd amendment to good use8)cheetfreak
I imagine you must run into a lot of gang action. Keep yourself strapped for when all of the thugs bust in...
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My boyfriend is applying for a firearms license so I'm guessing we're going to have some sort of gun in the apartment sometime soon...
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When I turn 21, I'll probablly own a handgun. Hopefully I'll never have to use one, but you can't trust anyone.
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[QUOTE="blackldragon"][QUOTE="Beatles401"]

it doesn't say any thing about were his family was. They could have been sleeping for all you know:?

i still want the link

Beatles401

Man I would never want to be around you if you were getting robbed.

Gee thanks:roll:

Your very much welcome sir. :)

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i have multiple guns in my home.

if you have no kids, dont lock up your gun. kuz then its harder to get when ya need it.

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[QUOTE="IIRubenII"]

Just read an article online, saying that a man got robbed by a 300lb guy, took his sawed off shotgun away from the robber, and shot him. Protecting his 2 children and his wife, from 2 guys breaking in.

My thoughts are, I'm thinking about acquiring a gun for the home, although I don't have any kids, I was robbed earlier this year by 3 guys with a gun to my face and back while they took everything I had. Now I read this, what do you think? Do you have a gun at home, or do you feel as if we should have one just for protection?

Picture yourself being robbed at your own place, even worse, think of your family...I'm lucky no one was with me at my apartment when it happened, and my fiancee was on her way home from work! Imagine?!

Beatles401

Was the guy threatening his family? or could have simple given him what he wanted and still protect his family?

And i want the link

Either way, you can protect your property under the castle law in TX.... now idk where this happened. but what kind of wimpy excuse of a man would let himself get robbed and his kids threatened when he can kill 3 scumbags and prevent another family from getting killed/robbed

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[QUOTE="blackldragon"][QUOTE="Beatles401"]

Was the guy threatening his family? or could have simple given him what he wanted and still protect his family?

And i want the link

Beatles401

I'm sure if a guy had a gun to your family it would be considered a threat.

it doesn't say any thing about were his family was. They could have been sleeping for all you know:?

i still want the link

I would like to think you could do that, but many times its just not possible. What if one of the guys heard one of the children coming downstairs, got spooked, and unloaded on him. Better to be safe than sorry.

OWNING A GUN IS NOT A BAD THING!

I recommend getting a good old 1911. Good stopping power, its common, its very simple.

Im glad I live in Texas so I can prtect myself unlike some liberal states.

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Terrible situations you give, and I've been robbed before at gunpoint, though not at home. I don't have and never will have any guns in my house. But understand why some do.
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#32 Katafran
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As soon as I am 21 I will own a handgun. A big, shiny silver one that can be seen across a parking garage.

Maybe it's because I am female, but I would much rather stand as far away from a threat as possible and still be able to defend myself and not run the risk of the attacker getting my weapon from me.

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when im 21 im going to get a gun to defend myself if I have everything together by that time.

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If you need a gun to feel safe, you should move.
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Buy a gun if you think it will help you. It's your right.