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I love the first film. And I disagree with your thoughts on the remake, I feel it truly fleshed out the myers character and gave him real motivation. You have to do something different in a remake. And even if you do not like it,you still must admit it was better than any of the sequels except maybe three,but does that really count anyway?mattykovaxThree I feel does not count as a sequel in my book. And I agree with you. It really delved deep into his past and showed who he really is, and I loved that about the remake. The only problem I had (and I know it's a RZ movie, what do you expect?) Is the gore. They just....overdid it IMO. Don't get me wrong, I love movies with gore but just wow. Overkill in this movie.
Really good film though it is not John Carpenter's best by far. The remake sucked though.Film-Guywhat is your favorite Carpenter film? Better yet rank them top 5 or so
[QUOTE="Film-Guy"]Really good film though it is not John Carpenter's best by far. The remake sucked though.Cloud_Insurancewhat is your favorite Carpenter film? Better yet rank them top 5 or soMine is and always would be The thing & The Stand.
[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"][QUOTE="Film-Guy"]Really good film though it is not John Carpenter's best by far. The remake sucked though.XxSTILL_BORNxXwhat is your favorite Carpenter film? Better yet rank them top 5 or soMine is and always would be The thing & The Stand. meh, you can't beat Big Trouble in Little China
Really good film though it is not John Carpenter's best by far. The remake sucked though.Film-Guy
The original Halloween probably ranks as my favorite horror film, but in Carpenter's oeuvre I'd say it's a toss up between The Thing, Escape From New York and Halloween as his best work.
Rob Zombie's Halloween was a cinematic turd and easily one of the worst movies I've ever seen; It's cliche, poorly acted, poorly paced, poorly written and worst of all, blatantly misogynist.
i thought the scariest part was when tommy bumped into michael when he was leaving school D:
remake wasnt that bad. atleast it had superfluous nudity to go along with the gore. heard there is a sequel to it coming out aswell? no idea how that is meant to happen with how the remake ended o.o
[n] is great the first time and the remake of [n] is horrible. copy and paste into any topic about anything.HewkiiPretty much, I'm hard pressed to find any movie that the remake outweighs the original.. guaranteed they make more money in the box office..but for overall appreciation and cult status, always the original
How do you feel about it, and what do you think of the horrible remake by Rob Zombie? I personally love it and think the remake was sub-par.randomhero5677So which is it? Sub-par or horrible?
I think they both sucked.
Although, the original had more of that stalker-suspense then the remake did.
Neither version did anything for me - I think the whole Michael Myers character is stupid and flawed.
The way I see it,RZ made a film that was his style which I liked. Other than his debut I like his films,he is a lot better than most others making only horror films,Him,Neil Marshall and a few others are the only thing keeping the horror genre from falling into the Saw/Hostel rut. At least in the mainstream. Yes it was violent,but a quick look that carpenter catolog shows you his film was not less violent because of choice,but because of budget restraints.
As for the story,Zombie could not make a suspensful film were myers was the faceless archtype of the boogyman,Carpenter already made that movie. The point of a remake is to put your own spin on someone elses work,like a cover song. You cannot go to far from the first version,but on the other hand as the pyscho remake proves,you cannot just film the same movie. So rob did the most logical thing,he focused on the creation of Myers and actually put a face,reason,and some depth to one of the most underdevolped characters in horror films.
I find it funny the amount of people that think this movie is crap,yet so many love the dawn of the dead remake which was a lot more offensive to the first film,George A Romero himself,and the fans of the film,taking not only a horror classic but one with a lot of depth and social commentary and then turning it into a monster movie pretty much. At least Zombie has respect and love for the source material.
Rob Zombie's film, if it had been given a different title, and the killer had a different name and mask, would have been very well received by me. Instead, Rob Zombie took a classic horror film, and bastardized it into something totally disposable.
One of the biggest things that made the original Halloween film so scary was the fact that there was no rhyme or reason to Michael's brutality. He was just evil, and at that time it was truly frightening to think that there could be a killer who was just that: evil. There was no need for motivation for Michael's madness; he was truly the boogeyman.
Rob Zombie came along and decided that instead, Michael Myers had a crappy childhood because of his abusive father, stripping mother, skanky sister, and bullying classmates. That's not scary; that's cliche.
Also, there is a difference between a movie that is genuinely scary and a movie that is just a bunch of cheap thrills and shock moments. The original film had many moments that were truly scary and disturbing. There was actual build-up in the scenes that just made your stomach turn with fear. The scene where Michael ever-so-slowly appears in the background of the hallway comes to mind, which is an extremely far cry from the porch scene in Zombie's film.
Like I said, I believe that if Rob Zombie's movie had a different title and a different name for its main character, the movie would be an above average modern era slasher film, but, alas, it's nothing more than another sub-par unnecessary hollywood remake.
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