Hammer+Human Head=Evil.. What???

Follow my thinking please. A rock is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer, and bust up a rock, no one would call me evil. But, A human is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer and bust a human's head open people  would call me evil.

Why is that? If naturalism is true then why is it wrong to kill people... with hammers. lol

The point of this post is to find out what people believe is a natural reason for morality, but focus on the scenario.  

morality is a made up concept created for our own convenience.

Because breaking a rock does not end a human life.thegerg

morality is a made up concept created for our own convenience.

frannkzappa

A rock isn't a human. It has no brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, children, etc.

You have something that seperates you from animals called empathy, it's what makes you human.

You feel for other human beings. A rock is an inanimate object. It has no feelings, no offspring.

A lot of people don't know what we are. A human being is made to run. The reason we don't have fur is so we can sweat. A deer has to pant to cool it's body down, in order to do so it has to stop and pant. Humans on the other hand can continue to chase, and cool their bodies as they go. It's how we survived.

Back to your question.. yes, there is a big difference between a rock and a person's skull. Most children know this after their first experience with death.  Empathy plays a huge role on why you shouldn't do it. Because you can imagine how that person would feel. It's what makes us human.

Follow my thinking please. A rock is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer, and bust up a rock, no one would call me evil. But, A human is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer and bust a human's head open people  would call me evil.

Why is that? If naturalism is true then why is it wrong to kill people... with hammers. lol

The point of this post is to find out what people believe is a natural reason for morality, but focus on the scenario.  

kneeha

[QUOTE="kneeha"][QUOTE="thegerg"]Because breaking a rock does not end a human life.thegerg

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

morality is a made up concept created for our own convenience.

kneeha

if you arent "moral" how can you expect others to be?

it's just a complex agreement created by society.

[QUOTE="kneeha"]

Follow my thinking please. A rock is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer, and bust up a rock, no one would call me evil. But, A human is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer and bust a human's head open people  would call me evil.

Why is that? If naturalism is true then why is it wrong to kill people... with hammers. lol

The point of this post is to find out what people believe is a natural reason for morality, but focus on the scenario.  

chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="kneeha"]

Follow my thinking please. A rock is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer, and bust up a rock, no one would call me evil. But, A human is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer and bust a human's head open people  would call me evil.

Why is that? If naturalism is true then why is it wrong to kill people... with hammers. lol

The point of this post is to find out what people believe is a natural reason for morality, but focus on the scenario.  

kneeha

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="kneeha"]

Follow my thinking please. A rock is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer, and bust up a rock, no one would call me evil. But, A human is made up of matter, and energy, made by natural processes. If I pick up a hammer and bust a human's head open people would call me evil.

Why is that? If naturalism is true then why is it wrong to kill people... with hammers. lol

The point of this post is to find out what people believe is a natural reason for morality, but focus on the scenario.

kneeha

well the only reason it matters is because you are also a human, and you would prefer not to be hurt, killed...ect. so what do you do? you find a bunch of other people and then you come to an agreement that should someone hurt or kill you, then rest of the group will promise to punish that person.

[QUOTE="kneeha"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="kneeha"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

morality is a made up concept created for our own convenience.

frannkzappa

if you arent "moral" how can you expect others to be?

it's just a complex agreement created by society.

[QUOTE="kneeha"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Rocks aren't alive Don't feel pain Don't have emotion And You're an idiotInEMplease

Mosquitos spread disease as they drink your blood.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="kneeha"] I disagree people will follow their moral judgement even when it's inconvenient for them. For example today I didn't lie about my reason for avoiding a meeting when it would have been so easy, but my pesky morality got in the way(j/p I like my morality)kneeha

if you arent "moral" how can you expect others to be?

it's just a complex agreement created by society.

[QUOTE="kneeha"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Rocks aren't alive Don't feel pain Don't have emotion And You're an idiotfrannkzappa

well the only reason it matters is because you are also a human, and you would prefer not to be hurt, killed...ect. so what do you do? you find a bunch of other people and then you come to an agreement that should someone hurt or kill you, then rest of the group will promise to punish that person.

[QUOTE="kneeha"][QUOTE="InEMplease"]

Mosquitos spread disease as they drink your blood.

InEMplease

Not all of em'.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="kneeha"] I'll be an idiot, cool. Why does it matter if humans feel pain, and have emotion before they die? Why is it wrong? What makes it evil to kill things with emotion or sentience. an interesting counter to that. A mosquito feels pain and as far as we know could have all the emotion in the world but most people swat them with ease.kneeha

well the only reason it matters is because you are also a human, and you would prefer not to be hurt, killed...ect. so what do you do? you find a bunch of other people and then you come to an agreement that should someone hurt or kill you, then rest of the group will promise to punish that person.

How nice that you were talking about  murder a second ago?

I swear OT creeps me out sometimes.

[QUOTE="kneeha"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

well the only reason it matters is because you are also a human, and you would prefer not to be hurt, killed...ect. so what do you do? you find a bunch of other people and then you come to an agreement that should someone hurt or kill you, then rest of the group will promise to punish that person.

TheHighWind

How nice that you were talking about murder a second ago?

I swear OT creeps me out sometimes.

I am all for philosophy and stuff, but if you seriously wonder about things like this, seek help.  Or turn yourself in to the authorities.

He has stated multiple times that this was all theoretical.

He has stated multiple times that this was all theoretical.

frannkzappa

or is it?  Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

He has stated multiple times that this was all theoretical.

mrbojangles25

or is it? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

or is it? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

InEMplease

Depends how you question morality. Asking why beating someone in the head with a hammer is not ok because it's ok to beat a rock with a hammer is the wrong way to question morality.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

Depends how you question morality. Asking why beating someone in the head with a hammer is not ok because it's ok to beat a rock with a hammer is the wrong way to question morality.

InEMplease

Ah I never spoke of conflicting ideologies, or any kind of higher law. All I'm saying is there's an apporiate way to question such delicate matters. Comparing sentient beings to rocks is not one of them.