Has sexism against men gone too far?

After reading through some statistics, I have to say it has; Here are a few examples

In 93% of dvorces, the mother gets the custody.

Six times the amount of federal money goes towards brest cancer research as opposed to prostate cancer research.

I think this is a good example because it shows a double standard, if it was a group like blacks, jews, or women, there would be an outroar.

Media like life time prepetuate the idea that women are victims and that all men are rapists and wife beaters.

what do you think?

After reading through some statistics, I have to say it has; Here are a few examples

In 93% of dvorces, the mother gets the custody.

Six times the amount of federal money goes towards brest cancer research as opposed to prostate cancer research.

I think this is a good example because it shows a double standard, if it was a group like blacks, jews, or women, there would be an outroar.

Media like life time prepetuate the idea that women are victims and that all men are rapists and wife beaters.

what do you think?

yoshi-lnex

I agree

I think there's much more sexism against women.

Sure, there's sexism against men, but there's still sexism against women as well. Women continue to get less money for the same amount of work and they have more difficulty advancing in their careers. Luncbox1

I disagree, i think they have little to no more difficulty then men, if not less. Besides the fact of some using physical appearence to advance, the amount of Female CEO's has been on a steady increase for some time now, with no signs of slowing down.

And, there is legitimacy in saying women are different then men, and that men are more suitable for labor jobs, but i fail to see legitimacy in saying the woman has inherent rights to children and all of a man's wordly possessions.

Sure, there's sexism against men, but there's still sexism against women as well. Women continue to get less money for the same amount of work and they have more difficulty advancing in their careers. Luncbox1

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"]Sure, there's sexism against men, but there's still sexism against women as well. Women continue to get less money for the same amount of work and they have more difficulty advancing in their careers. Tolwan

I disagree, besides the money issue i thinkt hey have little to no more difficulty then men, if not less. Besides the fact of some using physical appearence to advance, the amount of Female CEO's has been on a steady increase for some time now, with no signs of slowing down.

And, there is legitimacy in saying women are different then men, and that men are more suitable for labor jobs, but i fail to see legitimacy in saying the woman has inherent rights to children and all of a man's wordly possessions.

Yeah, like you said the trend is slowing down, but it's still present. I don't have any sources to back me up, but I've heard somewhere that in about 20 or 30 years the job rights will be equal if things keep going at the same rate. It's not that big a deal anymore. Although I also think that the whole mother's rights in a divorce thing is ridiculous. The parents should always have relatively equal visitation rights unless there are special circumstances.

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"]Sure, there's sexism against men, but there's still sexism against women as well. Women continue to get less money for the same amount of work and they have more difficulty advancing in their careers. yoshi-lnex

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"]Sure, there's sexism against men, but there's still sexism against women as well. Women continue to get less money for the same amount of work and they have more difficulty advancing in their careers. yoshi-lnex

At school they showed us a chart where it showed a job and a female and male earnings. Women make less in a year on the same job. So thats no myth.

The only reason there is more is because men don't care as much as woman do about the matter.cryptosopoidium

agreed. Men simply don't care (well most anyway). women, on the other hand.... if you can't stand the heat, get the **** outta the kitchen and order me my food then.

The only reason there is more is because men don't care as much as woman do about the matter.cryptosopoidium

Win.

There is plenty of sexism against men, but we just don't give a damn about it but women have to start an uproar and open their mouths if they hear even the slightest sexist joke and file it as sexual harrassment. plain and simple, MOST MEN DON'T B!TCH

And of course the mother should get custody of her child if she is capable of looking after it, since she was pregnant with it and gave birth. I feel there's more connection there than just some genes given by the guy.tofu-lion91

Biologically, yes; emotionally, no.

Well tbh women put up with **** too - women are the butt of most sexist jokes and have generally been second best in society in the past (and still are in some countries). And of course the mother should get custody of her child if she is capable of looking after it, since she was pregnant with it and gave birth. I feel there's more connection there than just some genes given by the guy.tofu-lion91

What if it was the guys idea to have the baby? This isnt like asking your parents for a hamster and then making your parents take care of it. Who ever wanted the baby first should keep the baby and accept the responsiblities of owning one.

[QUOTE="cryptosopoidium"]The only reason there is more is because men don't care as much as woman do about the matter.fuzzmuffin

Win.

There is plenty of sexism against men, but we just don't give a damn about it but women have to start an uproar and open their mouths if they hear even the slightest sexist joke and file it as sexual harrassment. plain and simple, MOST MEN DON'T B!TCH

That is true. If a woman came up to me and complemented me on the bulge in my pants I'd be smitten :D

Well tbh women put up with **** too - women are the butt of most sexist jokes and have generally been second best in society in the past (and still are in some countries). And of course the mother should get custody of her child if she is capable of looking after it, since she was pregnant with it and gave birth.I feel there's more connection there than just some genes given by the guy.tofu-lion91

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[QUOTE="cryptosopoidium"]The only reason there is more is because men don't care as much as woman do about the matter.Luncbox1

Win.

There is plenty of sexism against men, but we just don't give a damn about it but women have to start an uproar and open their mouths if they hear even the slightest sexist joke and file it as sexual harrassment. plain and simple, MOST MEN DON'T B!TCH

That is true. If a woman came up to me and complemented me on the bulge in my pants I'd be smitten :D

Something like that isnt too big of a problem its natural and its natural for a women to reject it and feel grossed out. Its just when some **** tells you your purpose in life is to be in the kitchen bare foot and preggo, Then I think they every right to complain and men have every right to complain if some one says that they MUST like sports or must have a job.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Luncbox1"]Sure, there's sexism against men, but there's still sexism against women as well. Women continue to get less money for the same amount of work and they have more difficulty advancing in their careers. MeriMorganov

At school they showed us a chart where it showed a job and a female and male earnings. Women make less in a year on the same job. So thats no myth.

Maybe he was more skilled. Did the graph show skill levels?

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"][QUOTE="fuzzmuffin"]

[QUOTE="cryptosopoidium"]The only reason there is more is because men don't care as much as woman do about the matter.MeriMorganov

Win.

There is plenty of sexism against men, but we just don't give a damn about it but women have to start an uproar and open their mouths if they hear even the slightest sexist joke and file it as sexual harrassment. plain and simple, MOST MEN DON'T B!TCH

That is true. If a woman came up to me and complemented me on the bulge in my pants I'd be smitten :D

Something like that isnt too big of a problem its natural and its natural for a women to reject it and feel grossed out. Its just when some **** tells you your purpose in life is to be in the kitchen bare foot and preggo, Then I think they every right to complain and men have every right to complain if some one says that they MUST like sports or must have a job.

Are you saying women shouldnt be expected to get pregnant? I know we have a population problem, but i dont think we want to outright kill the species...

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Luncbox1"]Sure, there's sexism against men, but there's still sexism against women as well. Women continue to get less money for the same amount of work and they have more difficulty advancing in their careers. JStahls

At school they showed us a chart where it showed a job and a female and male earnings. Women make less in a year on the same job. So thats no myth.

Maybe he was more skilled. Did the graph show skill levels?

no it didnt, the graph had many jobs and all showed men made more..

[QUOTE="Luncbox1"]

That is true. If a woman came up to me and complemented me on the bulge in my pants I'd be smitten :D

MeriMorganov

Something like that isnt too big of a problem its natural and its natural for a women to reject it and feel grossed out. Its just when some **** tells you your purpose in life is to be in the kitchen bare foot and preggo, Then I think they every right to complain and men have every right to complain if some one says that they MUST like sports or must have a job.

It shouldn't be a problem, but you know that if you ever went up to a woman and said "nice breasts" you'd get a slap in the face. But if a woman said "nice package" most guys would take it as a copmliment.

[QUOTE="JStahls"][QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Luncbox1"]Sure, there's sexism against men, but there's still sexism against women as well. Women continue to get less money for the same amount of work and they have more difficulty advancing in their careers. MeriMorganov

At school they showed us a chart where it showed a job and a female and male earnings. Women make less in a year on the same job. So thats no myth.

Maybe he was more skilled. Did the graph show skill levels?

no it didnt, the graph had many jobs and all showed men made more..

Graphs like that bother me. I'm sure I could very well make a graph that showed the exact opposite if I were to spend a week collecting information.

After reading through some statistics, I have to say it has; Here are a few examples

In 93% of dvorces, the mother gets the custody.

Six times the amount of federal money goes towards brest cancer research as opposed to prostate cancer research.

I think this is a good example because it shows a double standard, if it was a group like blacks, jews, or women, there would be an outroar.

Media like life time prepetuate the idea that women are victims and that all men are rapists and wife beaters.

what do you think?

yoshi-lnex

as a male, wife beating rapist with prostate cancer, im OUTRAGED!!! :x :x :x

It's better to not think about it.SolidSnake35

That's a great attitude you've got there.

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"][QUOTE="Luncbox1"]

That is true. If a woman came up to me and complemented me on the bulge in my pants I'd be smitten :D

Luncbox1

Something like that isnt too big of a problem its natural and its natural for a women to reject it and feel grossed out. Its just when some **** tells you your purpose in life is to be in the kitchen bare foot and preggo, Then I think they every right to complain and men have every right to complain if some one says that they MUST like sports or must have a job.

It shouldn't be a problem, but you know that if you ever went up to a woman and said "nice breasts" you'd get a slap in the face. But if a woman said "nice package" most guys would take it as a copmliment.

I think thats just preference, most men like it when women say that to them, most women hate it when men say that to them. Both have a right to their non physical reactions and what to say. If a strange man said that to me I would cringe and show him i am not interested and grossed out. But he had every right to say it but neither have the right to slap each other.

[QUOTE="MeriMorganov"]

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Luncbox1"]Sure, there's sexism against men, but there's still sexism against women as well. Women continue to get less money for the same amount of work and they have more difficulty advancing in their careers. JStahls

At school they showed us a chart where it showed a job and a female and male earnings. Women make less in a year on the same job. So thats no myth.

Maybe he was more skilled. Did the graph show skill levels?

I'd say yes, if only for the fact that female rape victims generally have an easier time with their experience than male rape victims.Video_Game_King

How so? Are you saying that men tend to be more traumatized? Why?

I'd say yes, if only for the fact that female rape victims generally have an easier time with their experience than male rape victims.Video_Game_King

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]I'd say yes, if only for the fact that female rape victims generally have an easier time with their experience than male rape victims.Luncbox1

How so? Are you saying that men tend to be more traumatized? Why?

Let's think about this for a second. If a woman gets raped, people are generally more willing to believe her (possibly due to deeply rooted societal sexism, but that's not the point). The police find the guy, he's found guilty, he goes to jail. She goes through supportive therapy and has a generally decent recovery. Now if a guy gets raped, he's gonna have a harder time getting people to believe him. The law would be impartial and side with him to a certain extent, but what about his friends and family? "Oh, you got raped? It was a girl, right?" or "Oh, you got raped? Why didn't you fight back, you f'ing 'posse'" and other slurs will be thrown at him. Sure, the aggressor will get the same treatment as the other rapist from before, but the guy's on his own. There aren't that many male rape recovery programs, if there are any at all. People are gonna say things like "Get over it, ya wimp!" and call him the nasty names from before.

umm we still get all the best jobs, and in a relationship we are boss.

Lets let them have their "empowerment" just to keep them quiet.

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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]I'd say yes, if only for the fact that female rape victims generally have an easier time with their experience than male rape victims.Video_Game_King

How so? Are you saying that men tend to be more traumatized? Why?

Let's think about this for a second. If a woman gets raped, people are generally more willing to believe her (possibly due to deeply rooted societal sexism, but that's not the point). The police find the guy, he's found guilty, he goes to jail. She goes through supportive therapy and has a generally decent recovery. Now if a guy gets raped, he's gonna have a harder time getting people to believe him. The law would be impartial and side with him to a certain extent, but what about his friends and family? "Oh, you got raped? It was a girl, right?" or "Oh, you got raped? Why didn't you fight back, you f'ing 'posse'" and other slurs will be thrown at him. Sure, the aggressor will get the same treatment as the other rapist from before, but the guy's on his own. There aren't that many male rape recovery programs, if there are any at all. People are gonna say things like "Get over it, ya wimp!" and call him the nasty names from before.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="Luncbox1"]

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]I'd say yes, if only for the fact that female rape victims generally have an easier time with their experience than male rape victims.xaos

How so? Are you saying that men tend to be more traumatized? Why?

Let's think about this for a second. If a woman gets raped, people are generally more willing to believe her (possibly due to deeply rooted societal sexism, but that's not the point). The police find the guy, he's found guilty, he goes to jail. She goes through supportive therapy and has a generally decent recovery. Now if a guy gets raped, he's gonna have a harder time getting people to believe him. The law would be impartial and side with him to a certain extent, but what about his friends and family? "Oh, you got raped? It was a girl, right?" or "Oh, you got raped? Why didn't you fight back, you f'ing 'posse'" and other slurs will be thrown at him. Sure, the aggressor will get the same treatment as the other rapist from before, but the guy's on his own. There aren't that many male rape recovery programs, if there are any at all. People are gonna say things like "Get over it, ya wimp!" and call him the nasty names from before.

Its one part more female rape than male rape, one part deeply rooted societal sexism.

[QUOTE="xaos"]Your argument seems wildly speculative, other than the fact that there are fewer programs. However, that makes total since given that the rape of women occurs easily an order of magnitude more often than of men.Video_Game_King

Its one part more female rape than male rape, one part deeply rooted societal sexism.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="xaos"]Your argument seems wildly speculative, other than the fact that there are fewer programs. However, that makes total since given that the rape of women occurs easily an order of magnitude more often than of men.xaos

Its one part more female rape than male rape, one part deeply rooted societal sexism.

Basically, ideas of men and women. Men are supposed to be strong leaders, head of the household, bold and brave, all that crap. Women have been characterized as weak, more loving than fighting, basically what men aren't characterized as. That's what I was basing the scenario off of.

[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="xaos"]Your argument seems wildly speculative, other than the fact that there are fewer programs. However, that makes total since given that the rape of women occurs easily an order of magnitude more often than of men.Video_Game_King

Its one part more female rape than male rape, one part deeply rooted societal sexism.

Basically, ideas of men and women. Men are supposed to be strong leaders, head of the household, bold and brave, all that crap. Women have been characterized as weak, more loving than fighting, basically what men aren't characterized as. That's what I was basing the scenario off of.

These stereotypes don't hold water any more.. This isn't the 50's where all men work, and all women are housewives.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="xaos"]Your argument seems wildly speculative, other than the fact that there are fewer programs. However, that makes total since given that the rape of women occurs easily an order of magnitude more often than of men.sSubZerOo

Its one part more female rape than male rape, one part deeply rooted societal sexism.

Basically, ideas of men and women. Men are supposed to be strong leaders, head of the household, bold and brave, all that crap. Women have been characterized as weak, more loving than fighting, basically what men aren't characterized as. That's what I was basing the scenario off of.

These stereotypes don't hold water any more.. This isn't the 50's where all men work, and all women are housewives.

The 50's was only 58 years ago.. sure alot has changed, but alot remains the same.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="xaos"]Your argument seems wildly speculative, other than the fact that there are fewer programs. However, that makes total since given that the rape of women occurs easily an order of magnitude more often than of men.sSubZerOo

Its one part more female rape than male rape, one part deeply rooted societal sexism.

Basically, ideas of men and women. Men are supposed to be strong leaders, head of the household, bold and brave, all that crap. Women have been characterized as weak, more loving than fighting, basically what men aren't characterized as. That's what I was basing the scenario off of.

These stereotypes don't hold water any more.. This isn't the 50's where all men work, and all women are housewives.

I agree and thank god for that! If my man doesnt want to work then go ahead and take care of the house, and enjoy your free time if your a fast worker, I enjoy being a outside of house job worker more anyways :)

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="xaos"]Your argument seems wildly speculative, other than the fact that there are fewer programs. However, that makes total since given that the rape of women occurs easily an order of magnitude more often than of men.sSubZerOo

Its one part more female rape than male rape, one part deeply rooted societal sexism.

Basically, ideas of men and women. Men are supposed to be strong leaders, head of the household, bold and brave, all that crap. Women have been characterized as weak, more loving than fighting, basically what men aren't characterized as. That's what I was basing the scenario off of.

These stereotypes don't hold water any more.. This isn't the 50's where all men work, and all women are housewives.

Its still deeply rooted and societal. Perhaps I should've added subconscious.