Can I have a couple people tell me why you are an Atheist?
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Because organized religion makes absolutely NO sense to me.
Now to be clear, I'm not talking about believing in god, or anything. It's religion I have a problem with, not God.
Because I dont believe there is a god.Can I have a couple people tell me why you are an Atheist?
Sirax0
Because I don't believe in the existence of a God or any kind of omnipotent supernatural being, and I have seen no evidence that suggests the contrary.
Because life is fine without religion, infact better. Brainkiller05True. Without religion I can have a sleep in on Sundays.
I see no reason or evidence to believe in a god, and organized religion seems to do a lot more harm then good.
Religion is a source of false hope. What does "believing in religion" ever give to you, other than false hope?
People are scared of an afterlife, and choose the most common religion that makes a little sense to them. They expect some bearded man in the sky to watch over their families. After generations, it becomes "truth" to them.
However, even the most kind, caring, religious people, like Mother Teresa, were also the ones who spent their whole life THINKING that God exists, and working as hard as hell to satisfy them. And what happened to them? They had nothing on earth, and died. Thats it.
Therefore, some people say that this life is a test. That we need to prove our faith to the big bearded man in the sky.
Supposedly, however, he loves us and is supposed to protect us. With my girlfriend just right this minute leaving me for another man, a pot-head with failing grades, God hasnt been doing his job lately, and he's about to lose me for good.
I mean really, I WAS christian, I prayed, went to church, was a nice kid, worked hard in school (still do) and try to keep my priorities straight.
But what do I get? A painful life.
I have to work for EVERYTHING I want. Including this computer. My parents are constantly fighting. Everyday is just another routine, same damn thing, wake up, work, eat, try to establish a relationship and fail, then go back to bed.
Even with church on sundays, all I do is submit to another person that won't even show himselves to us, wont even TALK to us, WONT EVEN HELP US WHEN WE REALLY NEED IT.
All my life, the story of my life, getting ripped off, receiving false hope, finding happiness only in times when I can take a break from my life, not care about anything, and just f*****g REST.
If this is a test, what kind of morbid being watches over us? What kind of morbid being in the sky creates a flawed human race of what, 3 billion, throws them on the Earth with several differences, different languages, countries, customs, beliefs, etc etc, and of course questions like "Why are we here"....
Its surely a recipe for disaster. I still see methods of suicide as a cowards way out, though. To live through a life is a very tough thing, especially when that man in the sky spends his whole time doing nothing to watch over me at all.
How much is it to ask for decent parents, or a decent girlfriend, or just some freakin reason to be happy....
Atheism is somewhat a source for me to just give the **** up. Nothing about religion has ever made sense. Here I am, almost 18 years old, with the exact same questions that I've always had, and my life is not getting better, not at all.
Honestly, I think the atheists and even agnostics are smart, brave, willing to go beyond what is expected, ask deeper and further questions.
I guess completely ignoring everything about religion would be a little extreme. So I will probably stick with agnostic.
But Im not going to rely on a single book for the answers to life's questions. I've read that book, and I've even been to sunday school. I never got anything out of it.
Why do we have to live in question, by some obscure faith....
I dont even know.....
Thats my conclusion, I dont even know....Im starting not to even care.....
Wow, great post man :oops: really deep Thanks man, depression is sitting back in on me again, and stuff like that just comes out here and there....[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"]Brainkiller05
That's a new one.I think everyone can agree that its almost impossible to say wether or not god exists. But I know there is a devil.
Gnomefan
Wow, great post man :oops: really deep Dude, I know exactly what you mean. That was the most meaningful thing I have read in the past week. I'm sure everything will be fine for you eventually.[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"]Brainkiller05
[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Wow, great post man :oops: really deep Dude, I know exactly what you mean. That was the most meaningful thing I have read in the past week. I'm sure everything will be fine for you eventually. Again, thanks so much. And chances are that is true, that is my little circle of life. I will get over it in a week, then not give a **** about anything for a while, might even try christianity.....then I might find another girl....hopefully somewhere I will find time for a meaningful life, with a great job, and someway to make a name for myself in this cold world. And by making a name for myself, I mean doing that in ways which does not submit myself to the simple belief of something else, and doing what hundreds have already done, giving up their lives to look like they actually care, when really they are scared of hell. Thats what drives religion. A fear of hell. If we went to heaven either way, nobody would pay attention to religion. Same if we went to hell either way.....[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"]mr_poodles123
You can't disprove something which was never proved in the first place.Brainkiller05Good point but just because something can't be proved doesn't mean it's not true. If the court cannot prove a murderers guilt then it doesn't mean he is notguilty. BTW i don't believe in religeon but just making a point.
the day a god actually shows up I will pick a religion, I don't believe miracles are a prove of a god because they happen with every religion, also if there's a god why are there so many bad people who have really good lifes and really good people that have horrible lifes, that's what makes me doubt the most of a god
if people could be trusted maybe I'd have a religion and I wouldn't doubt that most religious guys have good intentions but who knows maybe the guys who made religions just wanted to make money
what I belive is there's something superior to us but he/she/it is not a god, it's something like we are for brain cells or germs
Religion is a source of false hope. What does "believing in religion" ever give to you, other than false hope?
People are scared of an afterlife, and choose the most common religion that makes a little sense to them. They expect some bearded man in the sky to watch over their families. After generations, it becomes "truth" to them.
However, even the most kind, caring, religious people, like Mother Teresa, were also the ones who spent their whole life THINKING that God exists, and working as hard as hell to satisfy them. And what happened to them? They had nothing on earth, and died. Thats it.
Therefore, some people say that this life is a test. That we need to prove our faith to the big bearded man in the sky.
Supposedly, however, he loves us and is supposed to protect us. With my girlfriend just right this minute leaving me for another man, a pot-head with failing grades, God hasnt been doing his job lately, and he's about to lose me for good.
I mean really, I WAS christian, I prayed, went to church, was a nice kid, worked hard in school (still do) and try to keep my priorities straight.
But what do I get? A painful life.
I have to work for EVERYTHING I want. Including this computer. My parents are constantly fighting. Everyday is just another routine, same damn thing, wake up, work, eat, try to establish a relationship and fail, then go back to bed.
Even with church on sundays, all I do is submit to another person that won't even show himselves to us, wont even TALK to us, WONT EVEN HELP US WHEN WE REALLY NEED IT.
All my life, the story of my life, getting ripped off, receiving false hope, finding happiness only in times when I can take a break from my life, not care about anything, and just f*****g REST.
If this is a test, what kind of morbid being watches over us? What kind of morbid being in the sky creates a flawed human race of what, 3 billion, throws them on the Earth with several differences, different languages, countries, customs, beliefs, etc etc, and of course questions like "Why are we here"....
Its surely a recipe for disaster. I still see methods of suicide as a cowards way out, though. To live through a life is a very tough thing, especially when that man in the sky spends his whole time doing nothing to watch over me at all.
How much is it to ask for decent parents, or a decent girlfriend, or just some freakin reason to be happy....
Atheism is somewhat a source for me to just give the **** up. Nothing about religion has ever made sense. Here I am, almost 18 years old, with the exact same questions that I've always had, and my life is not getting better, not at all.
Honestly, I think the atheists and even agnostics are smart, brave, willing to go beyond what is expected, ask deeper and further questions.
I guess completely ignoring everything about religion would be a little extreme. So I will probably stick with agnostic.
But Im not going to rely on a single book for the answers to life's questions. I've read that book, and I've even been to sunday school. I never got anything out of it.
Why do we have to live in question, by some obscure faith....
I dont even know.....
Thats my conclusion, I dont even know....Im starting not to even care.....
THE_BRUTALIZER
with the whole gf thing, has it ever accurd to you that maybe he let her go for a reason to protect you. God does some things we dont actully think about. And with all the problems in this world, the devil is the god of this world he has control of it and you can tell, but soon god will take the control back at armageddon, and it says in the bible that man has to work to survive. When adam and eve sinned God punished man and woman, man there punishment was work from dawn till dusk and woman there punishment was bare pains of carrying a child. I dnt judge people i only pray for them, i pray that your life gets better for you cause it sucks, iv been through a worldwind myself and to me I always know that the holy spirit is within me and i believe that God is there for all of us you have to meet him halfway
Because I'm Agnostic. I don't rule out the possibility of a higher existence, but I don't necessarily put blind faith into one. A little bit of skepticism is healthy, I have chosen not to follow organized relgion because most experiences I have had in the past have found myself coming across religious fanatics. Nothing wrong with those who choose to follow certain teachings and values, everyone should find faith in something so that they may live with purpose, or at the very least believe that they are living for a purpose. I just have a beef with all of those who blindly follow only what they know and condemn others who have a different poitn of view, all without having an open mind and atleast welcoming open discussion on the subject so that both parties may coexist and come to a mutual understanding of some sort.
I believe that if your a good person, good things will happen too you. Also religion has damaged a little bit in my family. :(
[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Dude, I know exactly what you mean. That was the most meaningful thing I have read in the past week. I'm sure everything will be fine for you eventually. I have to agree, one of the small collective of meaningful logical posts in religion threads.[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] Wow, great post man :oops: really deep
mr_poodles123
with the whole gf thing, has it ever accurd to you that maybe he let her go for a reason to protect you. browniemixIf god knows all and can manipulate people as you are implying then he could have mae it so he met the perfect girl right away, his ex would never even have to come into the picture.
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I see no reason or evidence to believe in a god, and organized religion seems to do a lot more harm then good.
Sirax0
Look around you, theres evidence all around you!
Existence itself is not evidence of something outside existence.Well, I'm not. I'm a Christian, but I do understand all the logical and philosophical issues with religion all too well. So my own little version of Christianity is probably nothing like what the Bible-bashers preach. I put it together from what I believe, what I know, and the use of my brain. I'm complicated like that.
In fact, I have more sympathy with an atheist than an evangelist. At least the atheist is THINKING about God in a genuinely meaningful way, rather than merely swallowing all the Church's crap that it uses to exercise control. So good work atheists, you (in my opinion) worship God in a more important way than all those mindless churchgoers ever will, since you are really using the brain which God gave to you. (again, only my opinion)
Much love OT
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