Hillary Clinton: menace to America

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#1 monkeytoes61
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I beg of you all, please don't elect Hillary Clinton President of the United States of America. Do you know what will happen if we do this? We pull out of Iraq, without finishing the job. We actually elect two presidents, because Bill will be helping Hillary call the shots. Tell me, do we want Bill again. No, we do not. I was in the Marine Corps, and let me tell you, we hate the Clintons and all they stand for.
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#2 Hellraiser3899
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Well I wasn't gonna vote for her anyway, but even if I was... you didn't convince me...
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#3 Cerussite
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You've just inspired me to vote Clinton '08.

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#4 bman784
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Please, explain the logistics of exactly why Hillary is just THAT horrible. People passionately hate her for some reason but fail to provide adequate reasoning for why that is. I don't like her policies, but they aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be. And just for reference, there is no way to finish the job in Iraq. The entire situation is far beyond anyone's control.
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#5 Panman_Dan
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I won't mind Hilary, Obama can take a walk (not because he is black), Ron Paul all the way. Huckabee is a nut, Giulliani will be a tyrant, can anyone say Bush v.2! (I have respect for Bush though, imagine living a day in his shoes, not as easy as spectating)

The war... Mixed emotions. It's turned into a religious fiasco from what I've seen and heard.

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#6 Bill900
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I was already voting for Richard Nixon's head anyway
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#7 deactivated-583e5f64e0a7e
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You certainly don't have to worry about that from me.
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#8 bman784
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I was already voting for Richard Nixon's head anywayBill900

Indeed. Agnew's body for VP.
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#9 monkeytoes61
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Ok, have you ever heard her in an interview or get asked a question? She somehow change sthe subject to get out of the question. I have watched her get interviewed and she didn't answer a single question.
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Ok, have you ever heard her in an interview or get asked a question? She somehow change sthe subject to get out of the question. I have watched her get interviewed and she didn't answer a single question.monkeytoes61

She must have taken a hint from the Republicans. They seem to have mastered that skill.
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#11 espoac
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I'll take her over another neo-con. Also, Bill Clinton was great.
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#12 ChicaQueenWarGa
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I was not going to vote at all. I hate voting! I do not care about my country!

...Jk, I am too young. :P

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#13 monkeytoes61
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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Ok, have you ever heard her in an interview or get asked a question? She somehow change sthe subject to get out of the question. I have watched her get interviewed and she didn't answer a single question.bman784

She must have taken a hint from the Republicans. They seem to have mastered that skill.

everybody gets their way out of some questions, she gets her way out of all of them.
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#14 bman784
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If that state[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]Ok, have you ever heard her in an interview or get asked a question? She somehow change sthe subject to get out of the question. I have watched her get interviewed and she didn't answer a single question.monkeytoes61

She must have taken a hint from the Republicans. They seem to have mastered that skill.

everybody gets their way out of some questions, she gets her way out of all of them.


I seem to recall her answering at least one question, or is your argument completely dependent on hyperbole? I still see no reason for all of the animosity.
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#15 riseagnstfan
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well with ur title that sounds like every politician in the world...they all suck no matter what and i never found it hard to be a kiss ass like them
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Please, explain the logistics of exactly why Hillary is just THAT horrible. People passionately hate her for some reason but fail to provide adequate reasoning for why that is. I don't like her policies, but they aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be. And just for reference, there is no way to finish the job in Iraq. The entire situation is far beyond anyone's control.bman784

She's fake through and through. She'll say whatever it takes to please the public and she uses the gender card like a high school cheer leader with a credit card. She never keeps her opinion on one thing, no one can really be sure what she actually thinks and what she will do if elected. In one debate, she contradicted herself twice on one topic within 5 minutes.

Also, when ever she cracks that toothey grin it feels like my balls are in a vice.

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[QUOTE="bman784"]Please, explain the logistics of exactly why Hillary is just THAT horrible. People passionately hate her for some reason but fail to provide adequate reasoning for why that is. I don't like her policies, but they aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be. And just for reference, there is no way to finish the job in Iraq. The entire situation is far beyond anyone's control.Guiltfeeder566

She's fake through and through. She'll say whatever it takes to please the public and she uses the gender card like a high school cheer leader with a credit card. She keeps her opinion on one thing, no one cam really be sure what she actually thinks and what she will do if elected. In one debate, she contradicted herself twice on one topic within 5 minutes.

Also, when ever she cracks that toothey grin it feels like my balls are in a vice.

did anyone else notice that when Bill was cheating on her, she wasn't very worried? She just wanted to keep the perks of being a First Lady.
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#19 Vyse_Legends
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But Bill Clinton's hilarious.:P
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[QUOTE="bman784"]Please, explain the logistics of exactly why Hillary is just THAT horrible. People passionately hate her for some reason but fail to provide adequate reasoning for why that is. I don't like her policies, but they aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be. And just for reference, there is no way to finish the job in Iraq. The entire situation is far beyond anyone's control.Guiltfeeder566

She's fake through and through. She'll say whatever it takes to please the public and she uses the gender card like a high school cheer leader with a credit card. She keeps her opinion on one thing, no one cam really be sure what she actually thinks and what she will do if elected. In one debate, she contradicted herself twice on one topic within 5 minutes.

Also, when ever she cracks that toothey grin it feels like my balls are in a vice.


Those are more agianst her person than policies, but fair enough. What candidate do you support, if you oppose Clinton? Just for curiosity's sake.
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#21 monkeytoes61
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Those are more agianst her person than policies, but fair enough. What candidate do you support, if you oppose Clinton? Just for curiosity's sake.

Read the sig
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#22 bman784
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Read the sig
monkeytoes61

Obviously you must feel very strongly about 9-11, since it's about all Giuliani's running on. He's shown to be nothing but a warmonger, and has avoided TONS of question, which is what you hate so much about Hillary apparently. Examples can be provided.
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#23 Panman_Dan
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I'd say a best bet is for RON PAUL FOR 'O8.
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#24 PrimordialMeme
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Hillary and Bill suck, but for none of the reasons you listed. Rudy would be even worse.

This thread is a neocon job.

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#25 camdbz251
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I live in Australia so I cannot vote for your President, but if I could Hilary would not get my vote. Mainly due to the fact that she's alongside Jack Thompson in the charge against video games. She would lose my vote not just because I am a gamer, but because her stance in the game debate tells me she likes to make snap judgements based on virtually zero evidence in subjects she has no personal experience with.
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#26 artichoke
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I don't really pay attention since I'm not even going to be in the US on election day.
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#27 darkodonnie
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I live in Australia so I cannot vote for your President, but if I could Hilary would not get my vote. Mainly due to the fact that she's alongside Jack Thompson in the charge against video games. She would lose my vote not just because I am a gamer, but because her stance in the game debate tells me she likes to make snap judgements based on virtually zero evidence in subjects she has no personal experience with.camdbz251

This gets blown way out of proportion. The most she would be able to do is make it harder for children to get access to 'M' rated games without an adult buying it for them which is a good thing.

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#28 Panman_Dan
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I disagree with both Hilary and Obama's Universal Health Care Plan, I think it will flop and with the way the economy is going...
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I disagree with both Hilary and Obama's Universal Health Care Plan, I think it will flop and with the way the economy is going...Panman_Dan

That doesn't even make sense.

Explain.

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#30 Panman_Dan
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With the UHCP there will be lines out the door because everyone can get the benefits, and as a side note, the economy is falling and in the not to distant future they estimate that 1mil will be worth 150k dollars and it will be harder to pay.
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With the UHCP there will be lines out the door because everyone can get the benefits, and as a side note, the economy is falling and in the not to distant future they estimate that 1mil will be worth 150k dollars and it will be harder to pay.Panman_Dan

So...we don't provide health care and leave people to suffer because they can't afford it and we don't want them clogging up services for "paying customers"? That makes no sense.
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#32 PrimordialMeme
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With the UHCP there will be lines out the door because everyone can get the benefits, and as a side note, the economy is falling and in the not to distant future they estimate that 1mil will be worth 150k dollars and it will be harder to pay.Panman_Dan

Im probably talking with a freshman in college here but ahh...

Lines out the door? Are you high?

Healthcare is on a needs basis. There aren't that many people skipping serious doctors visits b/c they can't afford it. If we need more doctors we hire them, thats a boon to the healthcare industry. The problem with this plan is that it doesn't cut out the middleman. Insurance companies are overhead in the industry, they don't provide healthcare they manage it expensively with a goal of cutting costs. We do better if we cut them out and go single payer. Unfortunately these corporate democrats we speak of aren't proposing that. Obama and Hillary want a handout to the insurance companies.

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#33 awsss
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You've just inspired me to vote Clinton '08.

Cerussite


Seconded. Let's all vote for Clinton everybody

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#34 Panman_Dan
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[QUOTE="Panman_Dan"]With the UHCP there will be lines out the door because everyone can get the benefits, and as a side note, the economy is falling and in the not to distant future they estimate that 1mil will be worth 150k dollars and it will be harder to pay.bman784

So...we don't provide health care and leave people to suffer because they can't afford it and we don't want them clogging up services for "paying customers"? That makes no sense.

So your saying money isn't important? If someone is dying of a tumor and so are you but you have money should they be treated first?

In todays world only the strong survive, soon the only jobs you will be able to get will be at large retail chains like Wal-Mart.

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#35 PrimordialMeme
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[QUOTE="Cerussite"]

You've just inspired me to vote Clinton '08.

awsss


Seconded. Let's all vote for Clinton everybody

Lets not. She is a corporate pro war conservative "democrat" who stands for nothing. She is all name and image and is about as appealing as shiny pile of turtle feces.

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[QUOTE="Panman_Dan"]With the UHCP there will be lines out the door because everyone can get the benefits, and as a side note, the economy is falling and in the not to distant future they estimate that 1mil will be worth 150k dollars and it will be harder to pay.PrimordialMeme

Im probably talking with a freshman in college here but ahh...

Lines out the door? Are you high?

Healthcare is on a needs basis. There aren't that many people skipping serious doctors visits b/c they can't afford it. If we need more doctors we hire them, thats a boon to the healthcare industry. The problem with this plan is that it doesn't cut out the middleman. Insurance companies are overhead in the industry, they don't provide healthcare they manage it expensively with a goal of cutting costs. We do better if we cut them out and go single payer. Unfortunately these corporate democrats we speak of aren't proposing that. Obama and Hillary want a handout to the insurance companies.

I jumped into this topic a little quick but you said leans toward what I was going for.

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#37 PrimordialMeme
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So you're saying money isn't important? If someone is dying of a tumor and so are you but you have money should they be treated first?

In todays world only the strong survive, soon the only jobs you will be able to get will be at large retail chains like Wal-Mart.

Panman_Dan

Thats not how healthcare works. Under a socialized system everyone is treated, if you want to pay for a private physician beyond what the government provides you are STILL free to do that.

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#38 Griefing-Sam
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[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="Cerussite"]

You've just inspired me to vote Clinton '08.

PrimordialMeme


Seconded. Let's all vote for Clinton everybody

Lets not. She is a corporate pro war conservative "democrat" who stands for nothing. She is all name and image and is about as appealing as shiny pile of turtle feces.

Some cultures respect turtle feces and even use it as a face paint.
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#39 Panman_Dan
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[QUOTE="Panman_Dan"]So you're saying money isn't important? If someone is dying of a tumor and so are you but you have money should they be treated first?

In todays world only the strong survive, soon the only jobs you will be able to get will be at large retail chains like Wal-Mart.

PrimordialMeme

Thats not how healthcare works. Under a socialized system everyone is treated, if you want to pay for a private physician beyond what the government provides you are STILL free to do that.

Again, too quick, I'm gonna go play The Witcher now...

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she needs to get laid
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#41 camdbz251
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[QUOTE="camdbz251"]I live in Australia so I cannot vote for your President, but if I could Hilary would not get my vote. Mainly due to the fact that she's alongside Jack Thompson in the charge against video games. She would lose my vote not just because I am a gamer, but because her stance in the game debate tells me she likes to make snap judgements based on virtually zero evidence in subjects she has no personal experience with.darkodonnie

This gets blown way out of proportion. The most she would be able to do is make it harder for children to get access to 'M' rated games without an adult buying it for them which is a good thing.

True, but the way Jack Thompson goes on, you know he'd have all games banned from everywhere if he could. Any more power to him is very, very bad. It's good that the court system is based on actual logic, not "Video games told my perfect son to shoot people" logic.

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#42 Funkyhamster
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Wow, pulling out of Iraq is possibly the worst thing we could do right now. :|
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#43 MagnumPI
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Hillary Clinton: menace to America monkeytoes61
Yeah, She reminds me of agold digging scumbag cousin. Everyone has one. Youmight be the scumbag.Hillary Clinton is cousin Nel from that Christmas Movie. You know the one in which Santa ran over Grandma.
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I would rather vote for her than any republican (well, except Ron Paul)...
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#45 X360PS3AMD05
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Wow, pulling out of Iraq is possibly the worst thing we could do right now. :|Funkyhamster
Going into Iraq was the worst thing.
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#46 EboyLOL
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I beg of you all, please don't elect Hillary Clinton President of the United States of America. Do you know what will happen if we do this? We pull out of Iraq, without finishing the job. We actually elect two presidents, because Bill will be helping Hillary call the shots. Tell me, do we want Bill again. No, we do not. I was in the Marine Corps, and let me tell you, we hate the Clintons and all they stand for. monkeytoes61
Because we all know that the completely clean and uncorrupt politician Rudy Giuliani will do more for America than Bill and Hillary :lol:
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#47 X360PS3AMD05
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Rudy "I work 9/11 into every conversation" Giuliani :lol:
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#48 ferrari2001
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Well I have to say I do hate Hilary Clinton.. .. However bill clinton did do one good thing and that was He Greatly decreased the national debt... Other than that I didn't like him...

I want Ron Paul but he won't make it :(

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#49 wizard90
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I beg of you all, please don't elect Hillary Clinton President of the United States of America. Do you know what will happen if we do this? We pull out of Iraq, without finishing the job. We actually elect two presidents, because Bill will be helping Hillary call the shots. Tell me, do we want Bill again. No, we do not. I was in the Marine Corps, and let me tell you, we hate the Clintons and all they stand for. monkeytoes61

I thought you said that your brother was in the Marine Corps and not actually you?

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#50 PannicAtack
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You know, it's one thing to not like Hillary. It's another thing to make a hair-brained topic saying you shouldn't vote for her without giving viable support.

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of legitamite arguments you could have used in the original post. >_>