Hillary-supporting superdelegates receive hate and threats from Bernie supporters

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#1 Stesilaus
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Democratic superdelegates who back Hillary Clinton have been receiving derogatory and threatening 'phone calls and e-mail messages from Bernie Sanders' supporters, who are outraged that Hillary had secured the backing of many superdelegates even before a single vote was cast in the primaries. Sure to stoke the rage of Bernie's supporters is an Associated Press analysis that concludes that superdelegates could hand Hillary the nomination even if she loses every remaining primary by a large margin.

The campaign of hatred hasn't been confined to 'phone calls and e-mails. Superdelegates who happen to own public businesses have seen their establishments trashed with deluges of negative ratings on Yelp.com.

Full Story on Fortune.com

http://fortune.com/2016/04/28/clinton-sanders-superdelegates-harassed/

A few excerpts:

“Some of the [phone and email] messages called me names. Some of them called Hillary names. And others said I was a stupid ***** and something bad will happen to me,” said Schumacher, a Democratic committee member.

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Barry Goodman, a personal injury lawyer in Detroit, suddenly found his firm’s Yelp business review page besieged by bad ratings.

“You deserve this rating. Why does some random lawyer get more sway than the citizens,” read one comment.

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Clinton won the support of many superdelegates even before votes were cast in the primaries, and that has drawn the wrath of many Sanders partisans.

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There's some irony in the Sanders camp complaining about super delegates while trying to secure enough of them to overcome his deficit in pledged delegates.

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What do they have left? Bernie is going to lose. People's true colors show in situations like this.

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#5  Edited By Stesilaus
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Bernie's supporters are doing the right thing. When well-reasoned arguments fail to instill the correct ideological disposition, then terror and threats of retribution become legitimate alternatives.

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#6 hitomo
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its the american way :P

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They probably deserve it if they're dumb enough to support her.

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@mattbbpl said:

There's some irony in the Sanders camp complaining about super delegates while trying to secure enough of them to overcome his deficit in pledged delegates.

It's irony, but mostly it is a sad necessity; superdelegates exist specifically to stop people like Sanders.

Superdelegates are perhaps the most undemocratic aspect of this democratic republic of ours. Unelected delegates that can support whomever they want regardless of what their constituents say? Yeah that does not fly with me; delegates should vote to represent the people, pure and simple.

They should not exist. Period....guess the threat of someone from outside the establishment got a little too real for the people with the money. We are talking about a component of the process that determines 1/5 of who gets to be the democratic candidate; that is not a small say you can overlook.

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#9  Edited By Still_Vicious
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A lot of the bernie supporters seem to be the everybody gets a trophies type. So when they don't get their trophies incredible amounts of whining occurs. More and more often-violence.

Here's an image of tolerant regressive liberals.

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@still_vicious said:

A lot of the bernie supporters seem to be the everybody gets a trophies type. So when they don't get their trophies incredible amounts of whining occurs. More and more often-violence.

Here's an image of tolerant regressive liberals.

trump won already ^^

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@mrbojangles25 said:
@mattbbpl said:

There's some irony in the Sanders camp complaining about super delegates while trying to secure enough of them to overcome his deficit in pledged delegates.

It's irony, but mostly it is a sad necessity; superdelegates exist specifically to stop people like Sanders.

Superdelegates are perhaps the most undemocratic aspect of this democratic republic of ours. Unelected delegates that can support whomever they want regardless of what their constituents say? Yeah that does not fly with me; delegates should vote to represent the people, pure and simple.

They should not exist. Period....guess the threat of someone from outside the establishment got a little too real for the people with the money. We are talking about a component of the process that determines 1/5 of who gets to be the democratic candidate; that is not a small say you can overlook.

I agree with the bolded portion - that's an undeniable fact of their history.

However, I disagree with the underlined portion (such as I understand it). This isn't a case where Sanders is winning the pledged delegates and losing the super delegates - he's losing the pledged delegates as well. The situation as it currently stands is the Sanders camp attempting to recruit super delegates to overcome his gap in the pledged delegates. To get enough super delegates to overturn the "will of the people."

That's the irony I'm referring to. If Sanders was leading the pledged delegate count I'd be 100% in his court on this issue.

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Super delegates is like cheating.

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@mrbojangles25 said:
@mattbbpl said:

There's some irony in the Sanders camp complaining about super delegates while trying to secure enough of them to overcome his deficit in pledged delegates.

It's irony, but mostly it is a sad necessity; superdelegates exist specifically to stop people like Sanders.

Superdelegates are perhaps the most undemocratic aspect of this democratic republic of ours. Unelected delegates that can support whomever they want regardless of what their constituents say? Yeah that does not fly with me; delegates should vote to represent the people, pure and simple.

They should not exist. Period....guess the threat of someone from outside the establishment got a little too real for the people with the money. We are talking about a component of the process that determines 1/5 of who gets to be the democratic candidate; that is not a small say you can overlook.

The democratic party had it's head up it's own ass for decades, losing election after election because democrat primary voters kept putting undetectable people into the ticket. This was created as a check to get electable people into power.

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Just an annoying waste of a generation. Is society going to have to cuddle this group for the next 50 years, because they cannot face reality or accept defeat? He is losing the popular vote, the pledge delegates, and the super delegates. Time to give it up. Problem is, I doubt he can tell these brats to go home. He riled them up and has no exit strategy.

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#16  Edited By ferrari2001
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lol what? Hillary is wining by 300 delegates and close to 3 million votes. Why should super delegates override the will of the people? What freaking idiots. Also, that college humor Bernie winning video is on point.

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@hitomo said:

its the american way :P

Not really the america way. It´s the right wing ultra insane liberalists way.

And this happens all over the western world where "Liberals" are.

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Probably the same group of people who are triggered by everything and cry "hate" yet don't see the irony of the intolerance they spew. Look at any Trump protest, for example.

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No surprise these are the "peaceful" protesting types outside of Trump rallies that are destroying cars and blocking traffic to get what they want, Bernie's target crowd.

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idiotic. as are protesters/supporters getting violent at rallies.

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#21  Edited By deactivated-59d151f079814
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... How is any one shocked by this? There are these types on all ends of the political spectrum..

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Probably the same group of people who are triggered by everything and cry "hate" yet don't see the irony of the intolerance they spew. Look at any Trump protest, for example.

And huh? Last I checked BLM berated Bernie Sanders on quite a few occasions.. And Clinton is the only one that has brought up sexism and the fact she is a woman, not Bernie.. I am not seeing the SJW movement in the Bernie Sanders movement when the kinds of criticisms of sexism has been directed towards him, not been spoken out by him.. "BERNIE BROS", RING any bells? Bernie Sanders himself said it with "All lives matter" pretty much pitting himself against those types.. I mean this was the guy that got villianized by certain media outlets of being "sexist" because he told Clinton to be quiet when she was interrupting him during his time to talk in the debate..

And do you seriously think these SJW would support a white old man over a woman?

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@mrbojangles25 said:
@mattbbpl said:

There's some irony in the Sanders camp complaining about super delegates while trying to secure enough of them to overcome his deficit in pledged delegates.

It's irony, but mostly it is a sad necessity; superdelegates exist specifically to stop people like Sanders.

Superdelegates are perhaps the most undemocratic aspect of this democratic republic of ours. Unelected delegates that can support whomever they want regardless of what their constituents say? Yeah that does not fly with me; delegates should vote to represent the people, pure and simple.

They should not exist. Period....guess the threat of someone from outside the establishment got a little too real for the people with the money. We are talking about a component of the process that determines 1/5 of who gets to be the democratic candidate; that is not a small say you can overlook.

If they actually go against the popular vote, the party will loose a lot of respect I think. So I doubt that will actually happen.

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Liberals being hateful with each other. Cute.

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@horgen said:
@mrbojangles25 said:
@mattbbpl said:

There's some irony in the Sanders camp complaining about super delegates while trying to secure enough of them to overcome his deficit in pledged delegates.

It's irony, but mostly it is a sad necessity; superdelegates exist specifically to stop people like Sanders.

Superdelegates are perhaps the most undemocratic aspect of this democratic republic of ours. Unelected delegates that can support whomever they want regardless of what their constituents say? Yeah that does not fly with me; delegates should vote to represent the people, pure and simple.

They should not exist. Period....guess the threat of someone from outside the establishment got a little too real for the people with the money. We are talking about a component of the process that determines 1/5 of who gets to be the democratic candidate; that is not a small say you can overlook.

If they actually go against the popular vote, the party will loose a lot of respect I think. So I doubt that will actually happen.

I understand why they exist, and that they're free to choose whatever candidate they like, but it just reeks of special interest.

Proponents will argue that superdelegates exist to create a sense of solidarity and union, which is one virtue the GoP has (they'd vote for Hitler is he was Republican...). Detractors will say they serve the party and not the people (i.e. they "think they know best").

The democratic party has been cursed by choice/options in the past, maybe superdelegates really are necessary.