How America has changed: 1940-2010.

Link:http://www.census.gov/1940census/then_and_now/index.html

Wow, Texas really jumped up allot.

Always thought their population was in the upper 5(even back in 1940), apparently not.

Wow, Texas really jumped up allot.

Always thought their population was in the upper 5(even back in 1940), apparently not.

dercoo

cons outweight the pros

Ackad

Considering 1940 was the height of the Holocaust, we were just getting out of the great depression, and racial/gender inequality was much worse than it is today....nah. I'll take 2012.

cons outweight the pros

Ackad

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Wow, Texas really jumped up allot.

Always thought their population was in the upper 5(even back in 1940), apparently not.

KiIIyou

Actually, now that you mentioned that, I remember hearing about that on the history channel between pawn stars and aliens

It was how the states got their shape if I recall

[QUOTE="Ackad"]

cons outweight the pros

JML897

Considering 1940 was the height of the Holocaust, we were just getting out of the great depression, and racial/gender inequality was much worse than it is today....nah. I'll take 2012.

[QUOTE="KiIIyou"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

Wow, Texas really jumped up allot.

Always thought their population was in the upper 5(even back in 1940), apparently not.

dercoo

Actually, now that you mentioned that, I remember hearing about that on the history channel between pawn stars and aliens

It was how the states got their shape if I recall

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="Ackad"]

cons outweight the pros

vfibsux

Considering 1940 was the height of the Holocaust, we were just getting out of the great depression, and racial/gender inequality was much worse than it is today....nah. I'll take 2012.

In some aspects they were better, in some they were worse. I think some people tend to overrate that generation a little bit.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="JML897"]

Considering 1940 was the height of the Holocaust, we were just getting out of the great depression, and racial/gender inequality was much worse than it is today....nah. I'll take 2012.

JML897

In some aspects they were better, in some they were worse. I think some people tend to overrate that generation a little bit.

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="vfibsux"] The problem you do not see is if 2012 Americans were in control back then we would be speaking Japanese or German, Jews would be extinct, Amerika would not be America, and the Nazi's would spit in the face of your racial/gender equality. The quality of an American in 1940 was vastly superior to that of 2012, it is what got this country through such hard times.vfibsux

In some aspects they were better, in some they were worse. I think some people tend to overrate that generation a little bit.

Yes, I think a generation filled with overt racism (to the point where white and black people couldn't share anything) wasn't as great as some people say.

2010 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1940

We are talking about the difference between first world and developing nation here.

Those median income numbers are crazy.JML897

2010 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1940

We are talking about the difference between first world and developing nation here.

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="Ackad"]

cons outweight the pros

vfibsux

Considering 1940 was the height of the Holocaust, we were just getting out of the great depression, and racial/gender inequality was much worse than it is today....nah. I'll take 2012.

2010 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1940

We are talking about the difference between first world and developing nation here.

coolbeans90

Indeed, although that is probably the time in history I'm most fascinated by.... I'd rather kill myself than live during it, tho.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

2010 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1940

We are talking about the difference between first world and developing nation here.

Jazz_Fan

Indeed, although that is probably the time in history I'm most fascinated by.... I'd rather kill myself than live during it, tho.

[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

2010 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1940

We are talking about the difference between first world and developing nation here.

AnotherMartyr

Indeed, although that is probably the time in history I'm most fascinated by.... I'd rather kill myself than live during it, tho.

Well, you are incorrect. Adjusted for inflation, wages are higher and quality of life is unequivocally higher now.

[QUOTE="AnotherMartyr"][QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]

Indeed, although that is probably the time in history I'm most fascinated by.... I'd rather kill myself than live during it, tho.

coolbeans90

Well, you are incorrect. Adjusted for inflation, wages are higher and quality of life is unequivocally higher now.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="AnotherMartyr"] I respectfully disagree with both of you, adjusted to inflation I believe the quality of life was greater than it is now. The consumer had much more purchasing power. Equality and technological advancement make the period we live in now better but back then the consumer was more powerful and our currency more powerful in my opinion.AnotherMartyr

Well, you are incorrect. Adjusted for inflation, wages are higher and quality of life is unequivocally higher now.

I am right about all of those decades. The 20s was almost like a third world nightmare with a piss poor economy relative to the one now, even if growing more quickly. Food might have been slightly, granted only slightly, cheaper, holding inflation constant, but absolute wages have objectively risen since.

[QUOTE="Jazz_Fan"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

2010 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1940

We are talking about the difference between first world and developing nation here.

AnotherMartyr

Indeed, although that is probably the time in history I'm most fascinated by.... I'd rather kill myself than live during it, tho.

Our water did not have flouride in it until the 50s. AnotherMartyr

[QUOTE="AnotherMartyr"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Well, you are incorrect. Adjusted for inflation, wages are higher and quality of life is unequivocally higher now.

coolbeans90

I am right about all of those decades. The 20s was almost like a third world nightmare with a piss poor economy relative to the one now, even if growing more quickly. Food might have been slightly, granted only slightly, cheaper, holding inflation constant, but absolute wages has objectively risen since.

Hmmm, the rate of increase in national population is about equal to the decrease in population of Detroit.DaBrainz

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="AnotherMartyr"] Food and drinks were much cheaper as well as healthier. Our water did not have flouride in it until the 50s. I think the 20s was certainly a better economy. I am actually not certain about the 40s so you may be right. AnotherMartyr

I am right about all of those decades. The 20s was almost like a third world nightmare with a piss poor economy relative to the one now, even if growing more quickly. Food might have been slightly, granted only slightly, cheaper, holding inflation constant, but absolute wages has objectively risen since.

$100 was a lot of money, but you made a lot fewer $100s. At the end of the day, you now have more sh!t to show for your toil than in the 40s. Wages increased steadily 'til about '70s and 80s, where nominal wages increased but real wages haven't really since.

O

I like their music to and we can listen to all of it for free.

2012 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1940s for living. Though I'd kill for a nice 1940s car

[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="JML897"]

In some aspects they were better, in some they were worse. I think some people tend to overrate that generation a little bit.

JML897

Yes, I think a generation filled with overt racism (to the point where white and black people couldn't share anything) wasn't as great as some people say.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="JML897"]

Considering 1940 was the height of the Holocaust, we were just getting out of the great depression, and racial/gender inequality was much worse than it is today....nah. I'll take 2012.

Ravensmash

How do you know otherwise?

It is called being a student of history and comparing it to the pathetic crap I see these days, take OT for example.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="vfibsux"] The problem you do not see is if 2012 Americans were in control back then we would be speaking Japanese or German, Jews would be extinct, Amerika would not be America, and the Nazi's would spit in the face of your racial/gender equality. The quality of an American in 1940 was vastly superior to that of 2012, it is what got this country through such hard times.vfibsux

How do you know otherwise?

It is called being a student of history and comparing it to the pathetic crap I see these days, take OT for example.

2012 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1940s for living. Though I'd kill for a nice 1940s car

wis3boi

[QUOTE="AnotherMartyr"]Our water did not have flouride in it until the 50s. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="vfibsux"] Overrated lol, thanks for proving my point.vfibsux

Yes, I think a generation filled with overt racism (to the point where white and black people couldn't share anything) wasn't as great as some people say.

Way to deflect and completely ignore the point I made.

Also LOL @ "since you got Obama things ended up pretty good". What a terrible argument. You can't just ignore the racism thing like it never happened. What you're doing is the very definition of looking at the past through rose-colored glasses.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="vfibsux"] The problem you do not see is if 2012 Americans were in control back then we would be speaking Japanese or German, Jews would be extinct, Amerika would not be America, and the Nazi's would spit in the face of your racial/gender equality. The quality of an American in 1940 was vastly superior to that of 2012, it is what got this country through such hard times.vfibsux

How do you know otherwise?

It is called being a student of history and comparing it to the pathetic crap I see these days, take OT for example.

Translation: I don't know and I was just talking out of my ass.

[QUOTE="AnotherMartyr"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I am right about all of those decades. The 20s was almost like a third world nightmare with a piss poor economy relative to the one now, even if growing more quickly. Food might have been slightly, granted only slightly, cheaper, holding inflation constant, but absolute wages has objectively risen since.

coolbeans90

$100 was a lot of money, but you made a lot fewer $100s. At the end of the day, you now have more sh!t to show for your toil than in the 40s. Wages increased steadily 'til about '70s and 80s, where nominal wages increased but real wages haven't really since.

O

I like their music to and we can listen to all of it for free.

I am not some high class intellectual.AnotherMartyr

Glad you've cleared that one up.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="AnotherMartyr"] True I will agree that overall it is better to live in this time. I feel that change really is pointless now while in the past $100 really was alot of money. I would not be depressed to live in the past as there are pros. I mean the 80s and 90s were pretty awesome... 70s and 60s had their pros as well as did all decades. I mean I think in the past the music was better but that is subjective and probably an idiotic view I possess. AnotherMartyr

$100 was a lot of money, but you made a lot fewer $100s. At the end of the day, you now have more sh!t to show for your toil than in the 40s. Wages increased steadily 'til about '70s and 80s, where nominal wages increased but real wages haven't really since.

O

I like their music to and we can listen to all of it for free.

I'll give you that.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="vfibsux"] The problem you do not see is if 2012 Americans were in control back then we would be speaking Japanese or German, Jews would be extinct, Amerika would not be America, and the Nazi's would spit in the face of your racial/gender equality. The quality of an American in 1940 was vastly superior to that of 2012, it is what got this country through such hard times.vfibsux

How do you know otherwise?

It is called being a student of history and comparing it to the pathetic crap I see these days, take OT for example.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] :| How the hell do you know?Ravensmash

How do you know otherwise?

It is called being a student of history and comparing it to the pathetic crap I see these days, take OT for example.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] :| How the hell do you know?GreySeal9

How do you know otherwise?

It is called being a student of history and comparing it to the pathetic crap I see these days, take OT for example.

Translation: I don't know and I was just talking out of my ass.

let's say nowadays, America is made for you to be poor