How can christians believe in the death penalty??

Theres to many religous threads right now.....couldnt you have saved this until tomorrow?

jesus would just come back in 3 days if he got the death penalty.

jesus is magic

Not true christians..SlashDementia3

YAY, Im a true one. ^__^

Theres to many religous threads right now.....couldnt you have saved this until tomorrow?

jesus would just come back in 3 days if he got the death penalty.

Boring_Bland

My understanding is that according to the bible, that is pretty much what happened.

Seriously though, there is no justification for the death penalty. It costs a lot more to kill acriminal in the united states than to incarcerate them for life.

[QUOTE="Boring_Bland"]

Theres to many religous threads right now.....couldnt you have saved this until tomorrow?

jesus would just come back in 3 days if he got the death penalty.

Mr_Mohawk

My understanding is that according to the bible, that is pretty much what happened.

Seriously though, there is no justification for the death penalty. It costs a lot more to kill acriminal in the united states than to incarcerate them for life.

I know. I think that the death penalty is stupid and pointless. Hell as bad as prisons are now I would think that the death penalty is the easier punishment.

and about the cost. I heard it cost almost 7 million to execute someone is that true, because that jsut seems rediculus.

Not a lot of Christians support the death penalty.:| Where in the world did this come from?Dracargen

The Republican Christians running for President, most of them anyway, support it...even Mike Huckabee, who is a Minister. I really laughed when he tried deflecting the question(the question was basically the same thing this board is asking).

(BTW, I'm talking President of the US)

What would Jesus do.....Two400

Yeah, I mean most hardcore conservatives are super-Christians, and they're always like "Don't let your kids bring the antichrist video games in your home, and oh kill those Muslim %&$&$#s!!!"

LOL... Like how can they support troops killing people?

And, why do they say that our soldiers go to heaven, even when they have killed? Why do the enemy soldiers go to hell, and the American ones go to heaven? Like when you see parents of a dead soldier on TV they're like "we know he did his job, and is with god now"

HUH?

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]Not a lot of Christians support the death penalty.:| Where in the world did this come from?JML897

The Republican Christians running for President, most of them anyway, support it...even Mike Huckabee, who is a Minister. I really laughed when he tried deflecting the question(the question was basically the same thing this board is asking).

(BTW, I'm talking President of the US)

Good for those, few, Republican Christians.:|

I support the death penalty as well. . .but my position is not a favored one.:?

Yeah, I mean most hardcore conservatives are super-Christians, and they're always like "Don't let your kids bring the antichrist video games in your home, and oh kill those Muslim %&$&$#s!!!"

LOL... Like how can they support troops killing people?

And, why do they say that our soldiers go to heaven, even when they have killed? Why do the enemy soldiers go to hell, and the American ones go to heaven? Like when you see parents of a dead soldier on TV they're like "we know he did his job, and is with god now"

HUH?

TallicaFan2005

A word of advice: Take an extensive world religions course in college.

[QUOTE="Two400"]What would Jesus do.....verparanoidpers

"Turn the other cheek" is in there too, you know.

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]Not a lot of Christians support the death penalty.:| Where in the world did this come from?Dracargen

The Republican Christians running for President, most of them anyway, support it...even Mike Huckabee, who is a Minister. I really laughed when he tried deflecting the question(the question was basically the same thing this board is asking).

(BTW, I'm talking President of the US)

Good for those, few, Republican Christians.:|

I support the death penalty as well. . .but my position is not a favored one.:?

I wasn't saying the majority of Christians supported it; I should've made that clear. My post was meant to bash the morons running for President, not most Christians.

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="Two400"]What would Jesus do.....Mr_Mohawk

"Turn the other cheek" is in there too, you know.

That applies to an extent. . .we don't want our countries destroyed.:P

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]Not a lot of Christians support the death penalty.:| Where in the world did this come from?JML897

The Republican Christians running for President, most of them anyway, support it...even Mike Huckabee, who is a Minister. I really laughed when he tried deflecting the question(the question was basically the same thing this board is asking).

(BTW, I'm talking President of the US)

Good for those, few, Republican Christians.:|

I support the death penalty as well. . .but my position is not a favored one.:?

I wasn't saying the majority of Christians supported it; I should've made that clear. My post was meant to bash the morons running for President, not most Christians.

Hey! I'm a Republican.:evil:

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="Two400"]What would Jesus do.....Mr_Mohawk

"Turn the other cheek" is in there too, you know.

Genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds the blood of man,
by man shall his blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made man.

[QUOTE="Mr_Mohawk"]

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="Two400"]What would Jesus do.....verparanoidpers

"Turn the other cheek" is in there too, you know.

Genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds the blood of man,
by man shall his blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made man.

Jesus: "And should any man strike you upon the cheek, turn to him the other cheek also."

I don't remember the exact verse.

who is saying that the death penalty isn't murder, and there is obviously great scope for forgiveness with the death penalty (computers suck at sarcasm).

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="Mr_Mohawk"]

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="Two400"]What would Jesus do.....Dracargen

"Turn the other cheek" is in there too, you know.

Genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds the blood of man,
by man shall his blood be shed;
for in the image of God
has God made man.

Jesus: "And should any man strike you upon the cheek, turn to him the other cheek also."

I don't remember the exact verse.

who is saying that the death penalty isn't murder, and there is obviously great scope for forgiveness with the death penalty (computers suck at sarcasm).

Mr_Mohawk

Murder is the unlawful killing of anothe rhuman being.

The death penalty is not against the law (everywhere).

Therefore, the Death penalty is not murder.

[QUOTE="Mr_Mohawk"]

who is saying that the death penalty isn't murder, and there is obviously great scope for forgiveness with the death penalty (computers suck at sarcasm).

Dracargen

Murder is the unlawful killing of anothe rhuman being.

The death penalty is not against the law (everywhere).

Therefore, the Death penalty is not murder.

Sorry, we are talking about Christians who believe in "God's law", yet your answer implies thatthey should take such spiritual guidance from human laws.

Taking a life any way is wrong, no matter what the crime... Do you not think of the person's family, or people who care for him? Yes they bring it on themselves but to go to such extremes... :S
People should stop generalizing and saying Christains do this and that, you can use "some christain" but hey that's just me talking... If a christian is in favor of it, he is probably just a christian in image and not at heart.
SlashDementia3

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="Mr_Mohawk"]

who is saying that the death penalty isn't murder, and there is obviously great scope for forgiveness with the death penalty (computers suck at sarcasm).

Mr_Mohawk

Murder is the unlawful killing of anothe rhuman being.

The death penalty is not against the law (everywhere).

Therefore, the Death penalty is not murder.

Sorry, we are talking about Christians who believe in "God's law", yet your answer implies thatthey should take such spiritual guidance from human laws.

"Thou shalt not kill" = "Thou shalt not murder."

Murder = the unlawful killing of a human being.

The death penalty is not murdser, unless it is illegal, but then it shouldn't even be put in place in the first place.

Murder had the same definition back then as it does now.

Christians don't support the death penalty but politicians who support the death penalty also claim to be Christian for political reasons. douche bags.obsolete2k1

This is, unfortunately, nothing new. Constantine was using this trick in the 4th centurary.

[QUOTE="Mr_Mohawk"]

who is saying that the death penalty isn't murder, and there is obviously great scope for forgiveness with the death penalty (computers suck at sarcasm).

Dracargen

Murder is the unlawful killing of anothe rhuman being.

The death penalty is not against the law (everywhere).

Therefore, the Death penalty is not murder.

that's not the point. The idea is that you're taking a human life.

[QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]Taking a life any way is wrong, no matter what the crime... Do you not think of the person's family, or people who care for him? Yes they bring it on themselves but to go to such extremes... :S
People should stop generalizing and saying Christains do this and that, you can use "some christain" but hey that's just me talking... If a christian is in favor of it, he is probably just a christian in image and not at heart.
verparanoidpers

that's your opinion, however, religiously speaking no one on earth deserves to have their life taken away, regardless of their past.

[QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]Taking a life any way is wrong, no matter what the crime... Do you not think of the person's family, or people who care for him? Yes they bring it on themselves but to go to such extremes... :S
People should stop generalizing and saying Christains do this and that, you can use "some christain" but hey that's just me talking... If a christian is in favor of it, he is probably just a christian in image and not at heart.
verparanoidpers

The death penalty is reserved for the most depraved and perverse criminals that will never repent for their actions and are incapable of reform. Essentially they are broken beings (I won't even use human here) and as such their living presence should seem like an offense to all around them. Especially sickening are those who revel in their past deeds. Jocubus

what about the wrongly accused?

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]Taking a life any way is wrong, no matter what the crime... Do you not think of the person's family, or people who care for him? Yes they bring it on themselves but to go to such extremes... :S
People should stop generalizing and saying Christains do this and that, you can use "some christain" but hey that's just me talking... If a christian is in favor of it, he is probably just a christian in image and not at heart.
chrisrooR

that's your opinion, however, religiously speaking no one on earth deserves to have their life taken away, regardless of their past.

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]Taking a life any way is wrong, no matter what the crime... Do you not think of the person's family, or people who care for him? Yes they bring it on themselves but to go to such extremes... :S
People should stop generalizing and saying Christains do this and that, you can use "some christain" but hey that's just me talking... If a christian is in favor of it, he is probably just a christian in image and not at heart.
verparanoidpers

that's your opinion, however, religiously speaking no one on earth deserves to have their life taken away, regardless of their past.

Because (if you are religious) life is God given. Why oppose abortion then? You're doing the same thing, taking away a life. Personally, i'm not religious, however i am extremely opposed to the death penalty, its just not ethical.

i am atheist, i think the believe becouse they need a way toterminate bad guys patrickmanx

ok, but what about the guys who aren't "bad guys" and are going to be put to death?

[QUOTE="Jocubus"]The death penalty is reserved for the most depraved and perverse criminals that will never repent for their actions and are incapable of reform. Essentially they are broken beings (I won't even use human here) and as such their living presence should seem like an offense to all around them. Especially sickening are those who revel in their past deeds. chrisrooR

what about the wrongly accused?

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]Taking a life any way is wrong, no matter what the crime... Do you not think of the person's family, or people who care for him? Yes they bring it on themselves but to go to such extremes... :S
People should stop generalizing and saying Christains do this and that, you can use "some christain" but hey that's just me talking... If a christian is in favor of it, he is probably just a christian in image and not at heart.
chrisrooR

that's your opinion, however, religiously speaking no one on earth deserves to have their life taken away, regardless of their past.

Because (if you are religious) life is God given. Why oppose abortion then? You're doing the same thing, taking away a life. Personally, i'm not religious, however i am extremely opposed to the death penalty, its just not ethical.

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="Jocubus"]The death penalty is reserved for the most depraved and perverse criminals that will never repent for their actions and are incapable of reform. Essentially they are broken beings (I won't even use human here) and as such their living presence should seem like an offense to all around them. Especially sickening are those who revel in their past deeds. Jocubus

what about the wrongly accused?

I need to see some statistics.

Also, lawyers defending those accused are usually not private lawyers and a paid a fraction of the amount, which does not tend to be the case for prosecuting lawyers, so which side is likely to get a better lawyer?

Because (if you are religious) life is God given. Why oppose abortion then? You're doing the same thing, taking away a life. Personally, i'm not religious, however i am extremely opposed to the death penalty, its just not ethical.

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="Jocubus"]The death penalty is reserved for the most depraved and perverse criminals that will never repent for their actions and are incapable of reform. Essentially they are broken beings (I won't even use human here) and as such their living presence should seem like an offense to all around them. Especially sickening are those who revel in their past deeds. Jocubus

what about the wrongly accused?

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]Taking a life any way is wrong, no matter what the crime... Do you not think of the person's family, or people who care for him? Yes they bring it on themselves but to go to such extremes... :S
People should stop generalizing and saying Christains do this and that, you can use "some christain" but hey that's just me talking... If a christian is in favor of it, he is probably just a christian in image and not at heart.
verparanoidpers

that's your opinion, however, religiously speaking no one on earth deserves to have their life taken away, regardless of their past.

Because (if you are religious) life is God given. Why oppose abortion then? You're doing the same thing, taking away a life. Personally, i'm not religious, however i am extremely opposed to the death penalty, its just not ethical.

No. That is your opinion. A convicted criminals life is still a life .

Jocubus

Because (if you are religious) life is God given. Why oppose abortion then? You're doing the same thing, taking away a life. Personally, i'm not religious, however i am extremely opposed to the death penalty, its just not ethical.

he would get a life sentence in a prison. Two wrongs don't make a right.

[QUOTE="Jocubus"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="Jocubus"]The death penalty is reserved for the most depraved and perverse criminals that will never repent for their actions and are incapable of reform. Essentially they are broken beings (I won't even use human here) and as such their living presence should seem like an offense to all around them. Especially sickening are those who revel in their past deeds. chrisrooR

what about the wrongly accused?

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]Taking a life any way is wrong, no matter what the crime... Do you not think of the person's family, or people who care for him? Yes they bring it on themselves but to go to such extremes... :S
People should stop generalizing and saying Christains do this and that, you can use "some christain" but hey that's just me talking... If a christian is in favor of it, he is probably just a christian in image and not at heart.
verparanoidpers

that's your opinion, however, religiously speaking no one on earth deserves to have their life taken away, regardless of their past.

Because (if you are religious) life is God given. Why oppose abortion then? You're doing the same thing, taking away a life. Personally, i'm not religious, however i am extremely opposed to the death penalty, its just not ethical.

No. That is your opinion. A convicted criminals life is still a life .

[QUOTE="Jocubus"]chrisrooR

Because (if you are religious) life is God given. Why oppose abortion then? You're doing the same thing, taking away a life. Personally, i'm not religious, however i am extremely opposed to the death penalty, its just not ethical.

he would get a life sentence in a prison. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Amen.

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="Jocubus"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="Jocubus"]The death penalty is reserved for the most depraved and perverse criminals that will never repent for their actions and are incapable of reform. Essentially they are broken beings (I won't even use human here) and as such their living presence should seem like an offense to all around them. Especially sickening are those who revel in their past deeds. verparanoidpers

what about the wrongly accused?

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"]

[QUOTE="verparanoidpers"][QUOTE="SlashDementia3"]Taking a life any way is wrong, no matter what the crime... Do you not think of the person's family, or people who care for him? Yes they bring it on themselves but to go to such extremes... :S
People should stop generalizing and saying Christains do this and that, you can use "some christain" but hey that's just me talking... If a christian is in favor of it, he is probably just a christian in image and not at heart.
verparanoidpers

that's your opinion, however, religiously speaking no one on earth deserves to have their life taken away, regardless of their past.

Because (if you are religious) life is God given. Why oppose abortion then? You're doing the same thing, taking away a life. Personally, i'm not religious, however i am extremely opposed to the death penalty, its just not ethical.

No. That is your opinion. A convicted criminals life is still a life .

Because, whether or not your opinion goes along with it, it is.

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment..." Matthew 5:21-22