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#1 NWA_31
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So my parents just bought a couple of lobsters today and right now, they going to boil them...alive. They've been doing that every Saturday for a while now and it just makes me sick. How can they boil them to death is beyond me. They are supposed to taste better that way, or so I was told, but I could care less...that is just cruel. 2 of them are bleeding like hell and one of them is missing two legs...and now, they are going to be boiled to death :( Hell, even the KFC chickens dont die such a horrible and painful death. What is even more disturbing is how happy they look as they eat them...they dont feel bad at all for what they've done.

I'm not suggesting that we become vegeterian hippies, because I eat meat as well...However, I would never kill an animal myself and especially in such a horrible way :( Anybody feel me or do you all think im just a sissy ? :P

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How can humans be so cruel to other humans? To the environment? Cause thats what we are, mean :P
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Isn't it pretty much an instant death for them? If so, then what's the problem.

edit: and don't forget if it had the chance, a lobster would kill you and your family at the drop of a hat. 

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You sir, are a sissy. We're living in the world where the strongest survive. And in your parents' case, the strong sense for seachow won. *mehehehe*
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Humans have ruined humanity! :(
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You sir, are a sissy. We're living in the world where the strongest survive. And in your parents' case, the strong sense for seachow won. *mehehehe*BraindeadRacr

lol, I guess :P

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If it bothers you, ask your parents to stick the lobsters in the freezer before they boil them. That way they'll just be in a coma-type state and won't feel any pain, assuming the do feel pain when placed in boiling water...
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#8 gs_gear
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I'm gonna go eat some chicken now. lol

Oh, and you're just a sissy. :P 

 

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#9 darklord888
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The better way is snapping their neck before putting them in the pot. I agree I couldn't do that to a lobster.


You sir, are a sissy. We're living in the world where the strongest survive. And in your parents' case, the strong sense for seachow won. *mehehehe*BraindeadRacr


So if an alien race came to earth and started slaughtering us all you would be fine with it? Strongest survive right and seeing as we wouldn't be I guess you support our death?

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If it bothers you, ask your parents to stick the lobsters in the freezer before they boil them. That way they'll just be in a coma-type state and won't feel any pain, assuming the do feel pain when placed in boiling water...Salvy41

Freezing them to death before boiling them ? Im not sure if its any better lol :P

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The better way is snapping their neck before putting them in the pot. I agree I couldn't do that to a lobster.


[QUOTE="BraindeadRacr"]You sir, are a sissy. We're living in the world where the strongest survive. And in your parents' case, the strong sense for seachow won. *mehehehe*darklord888



So if an alien race came to earth and started slaughtering us all you would be fine with it? Strongest survive right and seeing as we wouldn't be I guess you support our death?

Lemme define that sentance in 70's talk, for you. We're living in tha grooovayh planet earth where the strongest survive. Besides, there never has been a alien invasion. You aren't dead yet, so... Yeah, strongest survive.
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[QUOTE="Salvy41"]If it bothers you, ask your parents to stick the lobsters in the freezer before they boil them. That way they'll just be in a coma-type state and won't feel any pain, assuming the do feel pain when placed in boiling water...NWA_31

Freezing them to death before boiling them ? Im not sure if its any better lol :P

It doesn't kill them, and I believe I heard somewhere that they don't feel the cold.. it merely puts them in a state of 'sleep'.

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#13 NWA_31
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[QUOTE="darklord888"]

The better way is snapping their neck before putting them in the pot. I agree I couldn't do that to a lobster.


[QUOTE="BraindeadRacr"]You sir, are a sissy. We're living in the world where the strongest survive. And in your parents' case, the strong sense for seachow won. *mehehehe*BraindeadRacr



So if an alien race came to earth and started slaughtering us all you would be fine with it? Strongest survive right and seeing as we wouldn't be I guess you support our death?

Lemme define that sentance in 70's talk, for you. We're living in tha grooovayh planet earth where the strongest survive. Besides, there never has been a alien invasion. You aren't dead yet, so... Yeah, strongest survive.

But we aren't that strong, we're just really smart...shouldn't we die then ? :P

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Wait! hold on, hold on...Your parents cook lobsters every saturday and you are complaining why?
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[QUOTE="BraindeadRacr"][QUOTE="darklord888"]

The better way is snapping their neck before putting them in the pot. I agree I couldn't do that to a lobster.


[QUOTE="BraindeadRacr"]You sir, are a sissy. We're living in the world where the strongest survive. And in your parents' case, the strong sense for seachow won. *mehehehe*NWA_31



So if an alien race came to earth and started slaughtering us all you would be fine with it? Strongest survive right and seeing as we wouldn't be I guess you support our death?

Lemme define that sentance in 70's talk, for you. We're living in tha grooovayh planet earth where the strongest survive. Besides, there never has been a alien invasion. You aren't dead yet, so... Yeah, strongest survive.

But we aren't that strong, we're just really smart...shouldn't we die then ? :P

If we can't kick a alien to death, we're made out of jelly. And, technically speaking... Their lasers, aren't physical strength(if they were real..). Your parents are gonna boil the lobbie, by litterally pushing him inside a pan full of hot water.
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To the topic creator, I found a website which may aid you in your quest! http://web.mac.com/trevor_corson/iWeb/blogs/LobsterBlog/3BFA3A5D-E805-41A9-83B1-EF999FCD0424.html
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Your so lucky I wish I can have lobster right now

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#18 NWA_31
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Wait! hold on, hold on...Your parents cook lobsters every saturday and you are complaining why?lone_wolf911

Im not against cooking...Im just wondering how people can boil them alive and not feel bad...

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[QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]Wait! hold on, hold on...Your parents cook lobsters every saturday and you are complaining why?NWA_31

Im not against cooking...Im just wondering how people can boil them alive and not feel bad...

Your sig owned me... Had to say it. :cry: *shames...*
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I can't stand when ****ed up people hurt animals people keep as pets, but I will destroy spiders and other bugs that chill in my bathroom, the reason? well some of those things can kill you, so I deal with them.
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[QUOTE="lone_wolf911"]Wait! hold on, hold on...Your parents cook lobsters every saturday and you are complaining why?NWA_31

Im not against cooking...Im just wondering how people can boil them alive and not feel bad...

Think about it this way, if the lobsters got a chance, they'd kill you with their claws of doom!
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To the topic creator, I found a website which may aid you in your quest! http://web.mac.com/trevor_corson/iWeb/blogs/LobsterBlog/3BFA3A5D-E805-41A9-83B1-EF999FCD0424.html Salvy41

lol...too late, though...they're already dead...maybe next Saturday :?

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So my parents just bought a couple of lobsters today and right now, they going to boil them...alive. They've been doing that every Saturday for a while now and it just makes me sick. How can they boil them to death is beyond me. They are supposed to taste better that way, or so I was told, but I could care less...that is just cruel. 2 of them are bleeding like hell and one of them is missing two legs...and now, they are going to be boiled to death :( Hell, even the KFC chickens dont die such a horrible and painful death. What is even more disturbing is how happy they look as they eat them...they dont feel bad at all for what they've done.

I'm not suggesting that we become vegeterian hippies, because I eat meat as well...However, I would never kill an animal myself and especially in such a horrible way :( Anybody feel me or do you all think im just a sissy ? :P

NWA_31

I dont care how the hell the lobsters feel. The point is that they taste good:twisted:. Besides, theyre supposed to be boil.

 

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So my parents just bought a couple of lobsters today and right now, they going to boil them...alive. They've been doing that every Saturday for a while now and it just makes me sick. How can they boil them to death is beyond me. They are supposed to taste better that way, or so I was told, but I could care less...that is just cruel. 2 of them are bleeding like hell and one of them is missing two legs...and now, they are going to be boiled to death :( Hell, even the KFC chickens dont die such a horrible and painful death. What is even more disturbing is how happy they look as they eat them...they dont feel bad at all for what they've done.

I'm not suggesting that we become vegeterian hippies, because I eat meat as well...However, I would never kill an animal myself and especially in such a horrible way :( Anybody feel me or do you all think im just a sissy ? :P

NWA_31

People in Western Europe and North America have become completely detached from their food sources, we have no real respect for the animals we consume on a daily basis.  I'm one of them, I personally have no desire to kill an animal, yet I eat meat, and wear leather.  Realistically, something like 60%-70% of all the meat you eat in the US probably comes from a factory farm, and the animals there lead a horrible life.  You can kind of think about it as the Matrix, without the virtual world to entertain yourself with.

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[QUOTE="darklord888"]

The better way is snapping their neck before putting them in the pot. I agree I couldn't do that to a lobster.


[QUOTE="BraindeadRacr"]You sir, are a sissy. We're living in the world where the strongest survive. And in your parents' case, the strong sense for seachow won. *mehehehe*BraindeadRacr



So if an alien race came to earth and started slaughtering us all you would be fine with it? Strongest survive right and seeing as we wouldn't be I guess you support our death?

Lemme define that sentance in 70's talk, for you. We're living in tha grooovayh planet earth where the strongest survive. Besides, there never has been a alien invasion. You aren't dead yet, so... Yeah, strongest survive.

Oh, come on.  We are so past "natural" you can't even use the "well nature says.." logic.  Strongest survive?  Then I guess we might aswell let genetically diseased people die, they are only carrying "weak" traits, right?  Hell, let's get rid of hospitals.  The strongest will surely make it to procreation. 

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[QUOTE="BraindeadRacr"][QUOTE="darklord888"]

The better way is snapping their neck before putting them in the pot. I agree I couldn't do that to a lobster.


[QUOTE="BraindeadRacr"]You sir, are a sissy. We're living in the world where the strongest survive. And in your parents' case, the strong sense for seachow won. *mehehehe*Account_27



So if an alien race came to earth and started slaughtering us all you would be fine with it? Strongest survive right and seeing as we wouldn't be I guess you support our death?

Lemme define that sentance in 70's talk, for you. We're living in tha grooovayh planet earth where the strongest survive. Besides, there never has been a alien invasion. You aren't dead yet, so... Yeah, strongest survive.

Oh, come on.  We are so past "natural" you can't even use the "well nature says.." logic.  Strongest survive?  Then I guess we might aswell let genetically diseased people die, they are only carrying "weak" traits, right?  Hell, let's get rid of hospitals.  The strongest will surely make it to procreation. 

You're just making my words look more serious.... For gods sake, what is it with you? Don't you understand the meaning? Strongest survive? Animals die because we humans are stronger than them, right? Otherwise cows would have massacred the butchers, fish would have murdered the fishers and chickens would have poked the KFC men to death. Goddammit man.
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Looks like natural selection is working
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#28 TheStatusQuo
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I'm against cruelty when it comes to animals.

If anything, my cat is always babied, and he's very intellectual.

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I'm a hunter.  I go out and shoot Elk and Deer and skin and gut them and have fried elk burgers and deer jerky. Does that mean I'm cruel to animals. No not IMO because I did not keep the deer or elk locked up in a pin til I was ready to kill them.  I had to go our walking for 20 miles to find them.

So my question is did your parents go and buy them from a market or did they go out and catch them?

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The only other way i could think of killing a lobster, humanly i guess, is to put it in the freezer. Or wait for it to day of old age :?

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I'm a hunter.  I go out and shoot Elk and Deer and skin and gut them and have fried elk burgers and deer jerky. Does that mean I'm cruel to animals. No not IMO because I did not keep the deer or elk locked up in a pin til I was ready to kill them.  I had to go our walking for 20 miles to find them.

So my question is did your parents go and buy them from a market or did they go out and catch them?

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The question is do you eat to live OR live to eat
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Intellectual cat ? Haha.
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im mad at one of my friends right now.  hes always talking about hunting grouse and deer or anything, and me (an animal lover) am getting tired of him.  Those animals should learn to wield some guns
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If we homosapiens hadn't been the chosen ones  maby cows or pigs would be eating us.
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I don't think you're a sissy at all.

I think you're on the path of understanding, in all seriousness.

I think that's the same reason why humans have slaughterhouses that cut off animals' horns and ears, genitals and such, slice and pierce their throats.....all while alive and awake. Same reason why people skin animals like chinchilas while they're alive and awake. It's supposed to make the products "better."

What in the hell.

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[QUOTE="BraindeadRacr"][QUOTE="darklord888"]

The better way is snapping their neck before putting them in the pot. I agree I couldn't do that to a lobster.


[QUOTE="BraindeadRacr"]You sir, are a sissy. We're living in the world where the strongest survive. And in your parents' case, the strong sense for seachow won. *mehehehe*NWA_31



So if an alien race came to earth and started slaughtering us all you would be fine with it? Strongest survive right and seeing as we wouldn't be I guess you support our death?

Lemme define that sentance in 70's talk, for you. We're living in tha grooovayh planet earth where the strongest survive. Besides, there never has been a alien invasion. You aren't dead yet, so... Yeah, strongest survive.

But we aren't that strong, we're just really smart...shouldn't we die then ? :P

ask Nagasaki 

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#38 branketra
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Isn't it pretty much an instant death for them? If so, then what's the problem.

edit: and don't forget if it had the chance, a lobster would kill you and your family at the drop of a hat. 

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I think that actually boiling them like that is one of the best ways to kill them.  Becuase their temperature goes up gradually until they eventually die.  I know that's how they cook frogs.  If you drop a frog in boiling water, he'll hop out.  But if you drop a frog in room temperature water and just gradually increase the heat, he'll just sit till he dies.
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I'd say that they can boil them alive without remorse because boiled Maine lobster is ****ing delicious. There was a study done that shows that a lobster's nervous system is so primitive that it can't even feel it when it's boiled.
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Umm ...just put them in regular water then heat it up . It shoudl't hurt them and they won't mind. I heard it works with frogs.
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Wow kid, seriously you are a sissy. Lobsters dn't feel pain. And don't tell me they do, because they don't. If that makes you feel bad than don't eat them and join PEDA or PETA or wtf it is. I can't stand peopel like you who think it's animal cruelty to cook somthing. What else do you eat? Do you eat salad? Wow, you just killed a plant. You eat steak? Wow, you just killed a cow.

The "pain" that lobster's feel, isn't the pain we feel. Their "pain" triggers a relfex for whatever need that it might trigger. I can't believe you're disgusted by this. It's pathetic. I would never eat dinner with someone who thought it was cruel to cook a lobster. Besides, it's instant death for them.

So let's get this right.

  1. Instant death (you don't feel anything in an instant death)
  2. They don't feel the pain humans feel. Theri pain triggers reflexes while our pain tells us to cut the **** and pay attention.

 

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So my parents just bought a couple of lobsters today and right now, they going to boil them...alive. They've been doing that every Saturday for a while now and it just makes me sick. How can they boil them to death is beyond me. They are supposed to taste better that way, or so I was told, but I could care less...that is just cruel. 2 of them are bleeding like hell and one of them is missing two legs...and now, they are going to be boiled to death :( Hell, even the KFC chickens dont die such a horrible and painful death. What is even more disturbing is how happy they look as they eat them...they dont feel bad at all for what they've done.

I'm not suggesting that we become vegeterian hippies, because I eat meat as well...However, I would never kill an animal myself and especially in such a horrible way :( Anybody feel me or do you all think im just a sissy ? :P

NWA_31

 

You still eat the animals so you are just as cruel buddy...and the KFC chicken get it way bad look it up. 

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Dude, I know it's terrible, but most people don't even care about other humans. Much less animals, especially the one's we eat.
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If you eat meat then your nothing but a hypocrite...
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#46 cowplayinghalo
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this reminds me of Aaron from The Hunted. he understands this kind of thing

people do it because they dont realize it. they try not to think about it. there were so many vietnam soldiers who commited suicide because they did too much thinking about killing the civilians (and vietcong alike) 

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#47 Koolsen
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Lobster tastes great. I think Im going to go buy some lobster now.
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#48 insanewolfninja
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tthats way nature intended the food chain to work I never feel bad killing a animal for food. cause they do the same theying to other animals thats just the food chain.