how come nobdy cares how many iraqis die?

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that's why I dont think we should withdraw from iraqmig_killer2

True the Democrats are like, "let's just leave and let terrorists and radicals go ahead and kill em"

Perhaps you've missed the several hundreds of protests in the US and other nations. . . . .

they aren't part of the "coalition", hell I don't even think most Americans care if part of the coalition dies, I haven't heard about a death from a non-American for a long time now.

Same thing went for Vietnam nobody really says anything about the 3 million Vietnamese that were killed, but we sure heard alot about the 60k US soldiers that were dying.

Honestly if you don't personally know anybody affected by tragedy the tragedy doesn't really seem that bad. Hell 3 million people in china could die, and most people across the world wouldn't even know.

Who says that nobody cares for them? I care for them.... been over there three times since 04 and made some great Iraqi friends over there that just want to live a normal life or at least try to. Yes it is hard at times over there but isn't that what everybody in life has to go through? You got your ups and downs and all.

So next time my friend don't be so ignorant.

i wuznt tryin to b its just tht on this site ppl r like 3k dead soldiers is worse than 700k dead iraqis

well if u mean the bad iraqies ..they can all burn in hell. if u mean the good ones....then we are tryin to save them..

the F-ing stupid democrats think that if we pull out everything will be fine. it wont..by us pulling out it will only put a f-ing target on the us and thats including all of us. Thats what they want us to do and if we let them push us around ..they will attack again. i am a senior in highschool and im set up to join the marines when i graduate..and im going there to make sure that what happen in 9-11 never happens again to us..and i hope that bush doesnt pull out...and if people are thinking..well we need our troops home..yes..we need them home..but they signed up for it..and wives or husbands who married them..u knew that when u met them..so..they have a job to do...so..

I think it bothers a lot more people than you imagine. Many people are simply reluctant to say anything about it because they are moral cowards.

The Bush administration and its coterie of war pigs relentlessly portrayed those who opposed the invasion as terrorist sympathizers, questioning their patriotism, their intelligence, and their motives. It was implied that to be against the invasion was tantamount to aiding and abetting "the enemy". Anti-war groups were spied upon and infiltrated while police compiled dossiers on their members, demonstrators were subjected to abusive police tactics and frivolous arrests, outspoken educators at all levels of the public school and university system were harrassed and/or forced out for speaking out against the invasion. The media was "embedded" in a successful effort to control the stories and images that made it back to the people in the US, ensuring that they were suitably sanitized to hide the reality of the war. Many of the media people themselves willingly compromised their journalistic principles in the effort to earn a name for themselves and help boost their networks ratings, whoring themselves out to the quest for fame and the almighty dollar.

The flag humpers humped their flags in public, beating their chests and chanting jingoistic patriotic platitudes to further confuse the ignorant sheep, while the government played a little propaganda game with colored lights; yellow, orange, red, orange, yellow, creating new mega-bureauacracies, inventing police powers, and abrogating the citizen's constitutionally guaranteed rights. The sheeple were simply cowed and hoodwinked; they ignored the inhumanity of the invasion and turned back to the comfort of their next episode of Survivor, American Idol, Fear Factor, and UFO Hunter.

The fact is Americans don't have a real sense of the horror of the invasion in Iraq. If they did, there would certainly be more widespread condemnation of it. In the final analysis, though, it is the fault of the American people that they remain ignorant of the horror. There are numerous foreign news sources that show the whole Monte, refusing to sanitize it to the point of abstraction.

That's why.

well if u mean the bad iraqies ..they can all burn in hell. if u mean the good ones....then we are tryin to save them.. ianp_91

they aren't part of the "coalition", hell I don't even think most Americans care if part of the coalition dies, I haven't heard about a death from a non-American for a long time now.

Same thing went for Vietnam nobody really says anything about the 3 million Vietnamese that were killed, but we sure heard alot about the 60k US soldiers that were dying.

Honestly if you don't personally know anybody affected by tragedy the tragedy doesn't really seem that bad. Hell 3 million people in china could die, and most people across the world wouldn't even know.

jrhawk42

why dont they just leave iraq alone and let it deal with owns problems.123625

So your vote is you don't care about them, just the "troops"?

they started it-SiiLeNCE-

Lots of people do. It's one of the primary reasons people complain about the Iraq war. But for those who don't, the answer is simple - they are not Westerners, and people have a natural inclination to identify with their allies, not their foes.pianist

At what point did Iraqi civilians become "foes"?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]that's why I dont think we should withdraw from iraqFPSGunnerDude

True the Democrats are like, "let's just leave and let terrorists and radicals go ahead and kill em"

???

the more we stay there, the more innocents will die.

and once again, it doesn't matter how long we stay there, any democratic government will fail.

a country cannot go from third world dictatorship to third world democracy.

it needs to have a strong central govenment put there now and the transition slowly made once iraq's economic state is far better.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]that's why I dont think we should withdraw from iraqFPSGunnerDude

True the Democrats are like, "let's just leave and let terrorists and radicals go ahead and kill em"

just ask yourself this. do you ACTUALLY truly care what happens to the iraqi people? will it affect you in any way?

[QUOTE="pianist"]Lots of people do. It's one of the primary reasons people complain about the Iraq war. But for those who don't, the answer is simple - they are not Westerners, and people have a natural inclination to identify with their allies, not their foes.Outbreak191

At what point did Iraqi civilians become "foes"?

They aren't foes. But they aren't Westerners either, and so Westerners won't tend to identify with them, unless of course they hear stories which tug on the heartstrings. If you hear a story about two orphans who lost their parents to a US bomb, you'll be affected. If you see that 2248 civilians were killed (and you hear about more dying every day), you eventually stop caring, because in reality, the number means nothing at all to you unless you stop to think about it, which most people won't do when the situation becomes 'routine.'

I'm not saying this is right - I'm just explaining why. This is why people a lot of Westerners don't care about Iraqis dying.

[QUOTE="FPSGunnerDude"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]that's why I dont think we should withdraw from iraqmistervengeance

True the Democrats are like, "let's just leave and let terrorists and radicals go ahead and kill em"

???

the more we stay there, the more innocents will die.

and once again, it doesn't matter how long we stay there, any democratic government will fail.

a country cannot go from third world dictatorship to third world democracy.

it needs to have a strong central govenment put there now and the transition slowly made once iraq's economic state is far better.

What kind of "strong central government" are you proposing?Who or what should we have replaced Sadam Husein with in your opinion if not what they have now? I never heard of a "Dictator's r' Us" where we could go get one.

Because people care more about this blond girl here:

She is much closer to our (western) hearts than the Iraqi people. It's sad, but it's the truth.

Because the majority of humans aren't that great. About 90 percent ARE selfish.

Because the majority of humans aren't that great. About 90 percent ARE selfish.

wemhim

and the other 10% are already dead.

its sad no matter who dies. American soldiers or Iraqi's -- anyway, war sucks. You'd think that governments would spend more money on things that actually need it like poverty, rather than on things like war and bombs (like russia that recently made a new type of bomb).Haziqonfire

lol, sorry but spending money on poverty makes itsound like you are pro-poverty.

its sad no matter who dies. American soldiers or Iraqi's -- anyway, war sucks. You'd think that governments would spend more money on things that actually need it like poverty, rather than on things like war and bombs (like russia that recently made a new type of bomb).Haziqonfire

Iran made the new bomb....but perhaps russia did too. I dont see that much TV over here, just mainly the news paper.