How did America's only colony failed to become a developed country?

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#1 lordlors
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I'm talking about Philippines. I already know the reasons for why my country still rots. It's still considered the sick man of Asia. But i'm wondering how the Americans would answer this question so how did it became like this?

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#2 no_more_fayth
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The concept of spelling Phillipines with a P-h and Filipino with an F have always made America weary of helping.

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#3 DraugenCP
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Europe now consists of many developed countries, so I guess Americans aren't all bad as colonisers.

Oh wait.

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I find your lack of argumentation disturbing.

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#6 Espada12
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Aren't PR and hawaii both colonies as well?

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#7 no_more_fayth
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Aren't PR and hawaii both colonies as well?

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Hawaii is a state.

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#8 markop2003
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Ferdinand Marcos + 1984 recession + Asian financial crisis Anyway it wouldn't have become a developed country by now, the only western colonies that are fully developed in Asia are the small British colonies in China (Shanghai, Hong Kong) and Malaysia (Singapore).
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Aren't PR and hawaii both colonies as well?

no_more_fayth

Hawaii is a state.

Well colony before I should say :P. Then again going by that.. technically Texas would be a colony as well haha.

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#10 no_more_fayth
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[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Aren't PR and hawaii both colonies as well?

Espada12

Hawaii is a state.

Well colony before I should say :P. Then again going by that.. technically Texas would be a colony as well haha.

Haha, yeah. :P

You were right about Puerto Rico!

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[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Aren't PR and hawaii both colonies as well?

Espada12

Hawaii is a state.

Well colony before I should say :P. Then again going by that.. technically Texas would be a colony as well haha.

Well, if you want to get technical; every state was once a colony...

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#12 punkpunker
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didnt the Americans took over the Philippine from the spanish? my opinion that is not a colony.

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#13 LJS9502_basic  Online
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I don't think I'd classify the Philippines as a colony....
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#14 Espada12
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Well, if you want to get technical; every state was once a colony...

Jagged3dge

Well unlike most of the other states texas was actually its own country for a bit... if I remember vermont and somewhere else was as well.

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#15 lordlors
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I don't think I'd classify the Philippines as a colony....LJS9502_basic
and why is that? colony - 2. A region politically controlled by a distant country; a dependency. "As it became increasingly clear the United States would not recognize the First Philippine Republic, the Philippine-American War broke out. It ended with American control over the islands which were then administered as an insular area." care to elaborate on your statement?
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#16 lordlors
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didnt the Americans took over the Philippine from the spanish? my opinion that is not a colony.

punkpunker
The Americans didn't leave Philippines right after the Spanish-American War and instead flourished with our islands under their control and trade through other Asian nations at the time. Why did the Americans come to the Philippines in the first place? It's such a far Spanish colony that why should the US intervene? Colonization of course especially that our nation was the first European colony in Asia to rebel. British and Dutch would be very alarmed that a new nationalist Asian country would emerge and would fuel unrest in their colonies. In that sense, the Americans just replaced the Spaniards as colonizers. What makes it different?
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they have been independant since July 4, 1946. how is it americas fault that it never got its act together?
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#18 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]

Well, if you want to get technical; every state was once a colony...

Espada12

Well unlike most of the other states texas was actually its own country for a bit... if I remember vermont and somewhere else was as well.

states and countries are interchangeable, just because our federal government has become the monolithic monster it is today does not mean it was always like that, the united states was created to act just like it sounds, a union of independent states bonding to pool resources in certain instances, such as defence.

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It worked great with Puerto Rico.

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#20 topsemag55
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The Philippines was freed from the tyranny of Spain, then the Philippines wanted to be a free country instead of a colony, so the U.S. said okay.

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#21 majoras_wrath
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The Philippines was freed from the tyranny of Spain, then the Philippines wanted to be a free country instead of a colony, so the U.S. said okay.

topsemag55
That is an awfully "creative" way to discuss the American Philippine-American War. You know, where we refused to recognize the Philippine republican and instead became an "insular area" or in less euphemistic terms, a colony.
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#22 stanleycup98
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The Philippines was freed from the tyranny of Spain, then the Philippines wanted to be a free country instead of a colony, so the U.S. said okay.

topsemag55

You missed out a war, some concentration camps, and a few other minor details.

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#24 lordlors
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its simple. All great colonies had countries to take advantage of.

Thats the great way of capitalism, it only works if you have a country to steal resources from

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So what countries are Singapore, Taiwan, and South Korea taking advantage of?
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#25 Half-Way
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[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

its simple. All great colonies had countries to take advantage of.

Thats the great way of capitalism, it only works if you have a country to steal resources from

lordlors

So what countries are Singapore, Taiwan, and South Korea taking advantage of?

i was hinting at America, but i realised it wasn't too obvious, so i deleted the post. :P

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#26 bbkkristian
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They didn't want us there after we liberated them.
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#27 sonofsmeagle
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[QUOTE="stanleycup98"]

[QUOTE="topsemag55"]

The Philippines was freed from the tyranny of Spain, then the Philippines wanted to be a free country instead of a colony, so the U.S. said okay.

You missed out a war, some concentration camps, and a few other minor details.

ooooh burned
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#28 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Japan, West Germany, and South Korea did pretty well.

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#29 atony12
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I'm sure Japan taking it over shortly during WW2 didn't help much. oh and it was originally a Spanish colony but we assisted your revolution against Spain because we were currently fighting them (Spanish American war). So ya your welcome for your freedom from Spain that we helped you achieve
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#30 majoras_wrath
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[QUOTE="atony12"]I'm sure Japan taking it over shortly during WW2 didn't help much. oh and it was originally a Spanish colony but we assisted your revolution against Spain because we were currently fighting them (Spanish American war). So ya your welcome for your freedom from Spain that we helped you achieve

And then promptly crushed their independence movement and made it a colony. We didn't free them, we merely tried to steal a colonial possession from Spain.
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#31 fidosim
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Seems like a fairly developed country to me, despite its problems.
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#32 bigdcstile
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They didn't want us there after we liberated them.bbkkristian
Cause when America liberates a land, they do it oh so well. Reminds me of this: See? LIBERATED!
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#33 Pirate700
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Aren't PR and hawaii both colonies as well?

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Good lord...

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#34 ROFLCOPTER603
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Cuba was owned by America from 1898-1902 and it is now a developed country.

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#35 Victorious_Fize
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I don't think Philippine is that bad, infact, I'd say it's an awesome country, despite the problems. Development isn't all that matters for a country, and you shouldn't worry as long as you guys are progressing, however slow. Have some Pinoy pride, brother.

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#36 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Aren't PR and hawaii both colonies as well?

Pirate700

Good lord...

I know it's a state, but in terms of history wouldn't it be a colony? I mean PR as far as I know is considered one and could be a state next year for all we know but that didn't change the fact they were one.

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#37 Bloodseeker23
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The Philippines was freed from the tyranny of Spain, then the Philippines wanted to be a free country instead of a colony, so the U.S. said okay.

topsemag55
Actually, the US lowkey bought the Philippines from the Spaniards, Phillie was under US for several years, then WW2 happened. Japan conquered Phillie, US fought back but lost, they came back and fought off the Japanese. But anways, Philippines ain't that BAAD, its just the stupid president who Gloria Macapagal Arroyo who fckd it up! And corrupt govnt.. Well maybe it is that bad. :(
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#38 PRowcester
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Cuba was owned by America from 1898-1902 and it is now a developed country.

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Why are there so many Cubans in Florida???