How do religous people belive in Evolution?

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#1 The-Tocino
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How do they? Evolution has DISPROVEN all of the creation myths. Specifically of the Adam and Eve Story , Evolution and Adam and Eve are not compatible. If Adam & Eve were parent less and were the first humans on Earth, how does Evolution fit in it? Why do religious people try to fit science in with their religion so they can keep on believing in delusions?
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Not all religious people fully believe everything in their religion. Christians who believe in God and Jesus could believe that God created the universe and then allowed things to develop from there.
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#3 DeerhunterIA
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It's really quite easy. God allowed or created evolution. See? Done... No conflict.

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Not all have, however the ones that do accept Evolution as fact usually don't take creation myths as literal. They've learned to reconcile their religious text with observable scientific fact.
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#5 Teenaged
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Religion is not just scripture and scripture can be interpreted metaphorically.

Sure some people will ask how one can know which parts are metaphorical and which parts are literal. Just because there is no definite answer to that doesnt mean that the extreme case of taking it all literally is more preferrable.

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#6 The-Tocino
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Not all religious people fully believe everything in their religion. Christians who believe in God and Jesus could believe that God created the universe and then allowed things to develop from there.xTheExploited
So they have made their own Christianity. If they are going to nitpick in their religion, it probably means it is not true after all. Especially since the Bible is the "Holy Word" of God.
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#7 The-Tocino
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It's really quite easy. God allowed or created evolution. See? Done... No conflict.

DeerhunterIA
God told us the story of Adam and Eve, if he allowed Evolution then the story of Adam and Eve is a lie. And why would God lie?
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#8 The-Tocino
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Religion is not just scripture and scripture can be interpreted metaphorically.

Sure some people will ask how one can know which parts are metaphorical and which parts are literal. Just because there is no definite answer to that doesnt mean that the extreme case of taking it all literally is more preferrable.

Teenaged
Yep, whatever seems fake....is metaphoric...whatever seems not too outrageous is probably literal....ah religious people.
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#9 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="DeerhunterIA"]

It's really quite easy. God allowed or created evolution. See? Done... No conflict.

The-Tocino

God told us the story of Adam and Eve, if he allowed Evolution then the story of Adam and Eve is a lie. And why would God lie?

It could be an allegory (either "told" by God to humans or just from their own imagination), and allegory doesnt equate to lie.

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#10 Harisemo
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they cant and if they do thenthey are not true followers. I'm religious andI dont believe in evolution.

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they cant and if they do thenthey are not true followers. I'm religious andI dont believe in evolution.

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I believe they go hand in hand. A lot of people believe god snaps his fingers and BAM there it is. Even christians. My way of seeing it is evolution was simply the process god was going through while making the universe. Just like jesus. He worked through people (virgin mary). He didn't snap his fingers and pow jesus was there as a baby. Just like everything else in this life.. it all grows and has a process.
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#13 Beaman
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I fail to see how Evolution THEORIES (because that's all they are ;) ) disprove creation in any way?
Show me the hundreds of thousands if not millions of half monkey half man fossils that should be scattered all over the globe and I'll gladly agree with the evolution theory :)

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inb4 ****storm.
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#15 The-Tocino
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they cant and if they do thenthey are not true followers. I'm religious andI dont believe in evolution.

Harisemo
Exactly. Therefore religion is based on lies since Evolution is proven.
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#16 The-Tocino
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[QUOTE="The-Tocino"][QUOTE="DeerhunterIA"]

It's really quite easy. God allowed or created evolution. See? Done... No conflict.

Teenaged

God told us the story of Adam and Eve, if he allowed Evolution then the story of Adam and Eve is a lie. And why would God lie?

It could be an allegory (either "told" by God to humans or just from their own imagination), and allegory doesnt equate to lie.

Then is the Jesus story an allegory?
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#17 Beaman
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

they cant and if they do thenthey are not true followers. I'm religious andI dont believe in evolution.

The-Tocino

Exactly. Therefore religion is based on lies since Evolution is proven.



Evolution is not proven, and has just as many holes as most religious beliefs. It's at that point that FAITH comes into play.

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#18 Harisemo
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

they cant and if they do thenthey are not true followers. I'm religious andI dont believe in evolution.

The-Tocino

Exactly. Therefore religion is based on lies since Evolution is proven.

fo real

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#19 The-Tocino
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I fail to see how Evolution THEORIES (because that's all they are ;) ) disprove creation in any way?
Show me the hundreds of thousands if not millions of half monkey half man fossils that should be scattered all over the globe and I'll gladly agree with the evolution theory :)

Beaman
Right....but when people ask for proof of God they get all offended and say "NO IT'S CALLED FAITH FOR A REASON." Religion sure has destroyed logic.
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#20 The-Tocino
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[QUOTE="The-Tocino"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

they cant and if they do thenthey are not true followers. I'm religious andI dont believe in evolution.

Beaman

Exactly. Therefore religion is based on lies since Evolution is proven.



Evolution is not proven, and has just as many holes as most religious beliefs. It's at that point that FAITH comes into play.

Indeed, we don't understand something time to pray and say it was God. And without Evolution, Biology makes no sense.
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#21 HoolaHoopMan
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I fail to see how Evolution THEORIES (because that's all they are ;) ) disprove creation in any way?
Show me the hundreds of thousands if not millions of half monkey half man fossils that should be scattered all over the globe and I'll gladly agree with the evolution theory :)

Beaman

Well researching it, hell even googling it, provides you with countless fossils that support Human evolution.

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First there was nothing and nothing happened to anything and then magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything rearranged itself for no reason at all self replicating into bits that make the order of nature today.

Makes perfect sense.

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#23 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

Religion is not just scripture and scripture can be interpreted metaphorically.

Sure some people will ask how one can know which parts are metaphorical and which parts are literal. Just because there is no definite answer to that doesnt mean that the extreme case of taking it all literally is more preferrable.

The-Tocino

Yep, whatever seems fake....is metaphoric...whatever seems not too outrageous is probably literal....ah religious people.

The thing is that such an approach to narration isnt exclusive to religious texts. Of course, it can probably be said that those who do use such an approach in their writings have been influenced directly or indirectly by religious texts.

I dont see why what you point out matters necessarily for the religion. It may matter for things that draw their validity from their godly inspiration (and even then we cant say that it disproves it for certain; God may as well be using allegories to speak to a species that is lesser than him and that doesnt have the capacity to fully comprehend "his ways"), but I think that slowly religions are starting to not hinge on this godly inspiration for their validity or their trustworthiness.

Maybe in the future religions will be much less deity-oriented.

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First there was nothing and nothing happened to anything and then magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything rearranged itself for no reason at all self replicating into bits that make the order of nature today.

Makes perfect sense.

CattiJack
Pretty big straw man you've got there.
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#25 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="The-Tocino"] God told us the story of Adam and Eve, if he allowed Evolution then the story of Adam and Eve is a lie. And why would God lie?The-Tocino

It could be an allegory (either "told" by God to humans or just from their own imagination), and allegory doesnt equate to lie.

Then is the Jesus story an allegory?

We cant know that. So far it is believed it is not an allegory since we dont have any serious indication that nothing of what is in it happened.

Time will tell.

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#26 Teenaged
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First there was nothing and nothing happened to anything and then magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything rearranged itself for no reason at all self replicating into bits that make the order of nature today.

Makes perfect sense.

CattiJack

Nice copy-pasta. You could add some sauce.

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The joining of religion and evolution has lead many scientists to use the term "intelligent design" the idea that God created creatures with the ability to evolve.
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#28 The-Tocino
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First there was nothing and nothing happened to anything and then magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything rearranged itself for no reason at all self replicating into bits that make the order of nature today.

Makes perfect sense.

CattiJack
Wrong. There was always something. Energy can be neither created or destroyed.
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#29 GabuEx
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Why do religious people try to fit science in with their religion so they can keep on believing in delusions?The-Tocino

ah religious people. The-Tocino

religion is based on lies since Evolution is proven. The-Tocino

Please go somewhere else if you want to troll religious people.