How do you deal with ghettos/overpopulation?

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#1 buldog300
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I've lived in the same area for almost 20 years now. I've seen it turn from luscious green belts to redundant condos and trash piles on the side of the road. Public areas that used to be nice are marked with graffiti, and both crime and homelessness seems to be on a slow rise. It's apparent that in 20 years the population has risen dramatically, and so my question is how do I (we) deal with this? How do I discourage littering and crime, and keep my home from slowly becoming a ghetto?

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well atleast you have ethnic diversity now, isnt that great?
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I'd probably move.
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#6 buldog300
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I'd probably move.guynamedbilly
Yeah and the people that cause the problems will move as well, bringing the problems with them in the process.
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#7 lamprey263
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I think public housing projects should be abandoned, rather scatter low income housing in more prosperous neighborhoods so that poverty isn't concentrated, giving people access to more economicly simulated areas to live and work in and raise families in will help.
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well atleast you have ethnic diversity now, isnt that great?chad_daddy
No.
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#10 Vadislav
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I've lived in the same area for almost 20 years now. I've seen it turn from luscious green belts to redundant condos and trash piles on the side of the road. Public areas that used to be nice are marked with graffiti, and both crime and homelessness seems to be on a slow rise. It's apparent that in 20 years the population has risen dramatically, and so my question is how do I (we) deal with this? How do I discourage littering and crime, and keep my home from slowly becoming a ghetto?

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I think public housing projects should be abandoned, rather scatter low income housing in more prosperous neighborhoods so that poverty isn't concentrated, giving people access to more economicly simulated areas to live and work in and raise families in will help.lamprey263

They began implementing this where I live and in theory it's a good idea but doesn't work. All that's happened is they've moved the crime from downtown into a nicer part of town which is slowly becoming a not so nice part of town. You cant just take families from a low income area and stick them in a wealthier area. Some people just dont want to be integrated and mixing the wealthy or even middle income with low income just doesn't work out well. Remember when you were younger there was always the "rich school" that every other school hated. It had all the "rich kids" and all people did was talk crap about anyone who went there. Well this stigma applies to low income vs. middle income families. If you have ever lived in a bad area you know that most of the people don't think to highly of a guy in a suit. There is a social barrier that cant be overlooked.

More and more cars get broken into, more houses get robbed/broken into, and the highschools that were once a leader in education are now becoming just another school with the same crap you would get in any other school. You have people that want to better themselves and their family and use the opportunity given to them to better their standing in life. Thats the minority though. The majority, is people who are used to living a lifestyle of drugs, confrontation, and general crime, who already have an extreme dislike for the wealthy to middle income families. Then the government gives them a house for next to nothing in a nice area but the people themselves don't change. You end up with a criminals paradise. Cheap living and a bunch of nice things that other people worked for that you can take.

In theory trying to spread the wealth and opportunity sounds nice, but trying to force that change upon people that don't want it or abuse it never ends well.

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Start some sorta neighborhood watch comittee thing? I think they usually do stuff like clean up and all that

From experience I'm from a bad part of Belgrade, and their isn't really a way to deal with it. Other than the city stepping in and creating business like grocery stores to bring in money.

Especially since alot of those neighborhoods like mine growing up don't have official grocery stores and only a few corner stores spread out every few blocks

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#13 Hubadubalubahu
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Start some sorta neighborhood watch comittee thing? I think they usually do stuff like clean up and all that

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This person brings up a good point.If you know a few people in the neighborhood who feel the same way you do about preserving their homes/way of life then talk to them about it.

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The only realistic solution to your problem is to move to a nicer area.

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[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"]I'd probably move.buldog300
Yeah and the people that cause the problems will move as well, bringing the problems with them in the process.

Move to a cave in the woods nobody besides a bear will bother you there

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#18 Mochyc
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Improve education (through school voucher programs for example, more private and less public schools), and community building programs (no idea what that could be, but my intuition tells me that a stronger community would result in less crime).
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I think public housing projects should be abandoned, rather scatter low income housing in more prosperous neighborhoods so that poverty isn't concentrated, giving people access to more economicly simulated areas to live and work in and raise families in will help.lamprey263
That ruins the neighborhoods. The problem is that when you don't work for what you have and are given it....you have no attachment or pride toward it. How about putting people to work and getting them on their feet again.
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#20 sukraj
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to many vely bad poeple ok no way man get in trouble in bad way ok boss.

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#21 Planet_Pluto
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Unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done. Or, if there is, I haven't seen or heard of it yet.

I've lived in the same town for a few decades, and I'm seeing the same thing (although I'm talking about a suburb, while it seems you may be talking about more of a rural area). Anyway, once that decline happens, I don't think there is any way to stop it. "Bad folks" are like a cancer, once they get into an area, they tend to spread and multiply. At the same time, and as a result, good people tend to not want to move into the area.

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#22 TehFuneral
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You live in Detriot?

Anyways, the only true answer is to kill it with fire. I learned that from SimCity.

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#23 Javieralijandro
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You live in Detriot?

Anyways, the only true answer is to kill it with fire. I learned that from SimCity.

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#24 RushKing
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The solution would be unions lowering the maximum hours you can work in a week, which would force bussnesses to hire more people.

But we cant do that because all the liberals and repubs are against force and regulation regardless of the benefits.

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Any solution has to abandon the idea of no one left behind, some people just won't improve. When you do away with that constraint it becomes much easier, you simply don't permit the bad acts. Sure if you make education stricter and make tests harder you are going to have some which don't graduate or get expelled but the majority will do better, the minority that don't were never going to do well no matter what you did.
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#26 Planet_Pluto
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Any solution has to abandon the idea of no one left behind, some people just won't improve. When you do away with that constraint it becomes much easier, you simply don't permit the bad acts. Sure if you make education stricter and make tests harder you are going to have some which don't graduate or get expelled but the majority will do better, the minority that don't were never going to do well no matter what you did.markop2003
Isn't schooling only a secondary symptom of an underlying problem?

When you have ghetto-people/white-trash/whatever-you-want-to-call-them cranking out kids that they can not, or will not, raise to be contributing members of society, how can anyone really expect things to improve in a generational sense? By the time they reach elementary school, the odds are already very much stacked against them becoming contributing members of society.

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#27 xXDrPainXx
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In the same situation and the wife and I are moving out. I'm sorry but I don't want to put up with the cancer and their bull since they will never change and I'm just going to look out for my interests which means moving. Last year the last straw when random people would show up and fight or shoot someone or rob someone and I finally said I'm done here and hopefully if everything works out I'll be outta there in a few months.
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#28 chad_daddy
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

You live in Detriot?

Anyways, the only true answer is to kill it with fire. I learned that from SimCity.

Javieralijandro
MotorCity Baby! Thank God all my neighbors are old people. Anyone young in my neighbor hood (below 35) that's not me doesn't live here.

0.0, so you must be a fan of eminem and royce
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This man is your example. Follow his lead.

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I've lived in the same area for almost 20 years now. I've seen it turn from luscious green belts to redundant condos and trash piles on the side of the road. Public areas that used to be nice are marked with graffiti, and both crime and homelessness seems to be on a slow rise.

buldog300

It's called progess.

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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

You live in Detriot?

Anyways, the only true answer is to kill it with fire. I learned that from SimCity.

Javieralijandro
MotorCity Baby! Thank God all my neighbors are old people. Anyone young in my neighbor hood (below 35) that's not me doesn't live here.

Used to live in Ann Arbor and my wife is from Taylor. You actually in Detroit or one of the "metro" areas?
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#32 PSN-SCRODE
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Yea im starting to see it as well, but my neighborhood is located near Gary and its slowly coming through.

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#34 WiiCubeM1
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I live in a cornfield in the middle of a farming community in the middle of amish country. We have no ghettos, let alone people, out here. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

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#35 Hubadubalubahu
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This man is your example. Follow his lead.

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Thank God for the rain to wash the trash off the sidewalk.:cool:

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#36 hoola
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Great Grandma Jene say: Just because you are poor, doesn't mean you have to be dirty.

You should move.