Islam. A former chrsitan youth minister tells his story. i just came across it. its very intresting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYMKQKSV0bY
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[QUOTE="FamiBox"]he presents the evidence in the videoI'm not watching that for 1 hour and 20 minutes.
Regardless, going from believing in one thing of which there is no evidence to support it to another thing of which there is no evidence to support it. Big deal.
NSR34GTR
I mean evidence, not speculation.
The bible led me to atheism... I think that's probably a better story.mfp16You appear to believe in the flying spaghetti monster though? :P
I'm not watching that for 1 hour and 20 minutes.
Regardless, going from believing in one thing of which there is no evidence to support it to another thing of which there is no evidence to support it. Big deal.
FamiBox
There is evidence :|
For those that believe no evidence is needed, for those that don't no evidence is enough. And now I Bid thee Farewell :P
[QUOTE="mfp16"]The bible led me to atheism... I think that's probably a better story.Gordon-GekkoSame here. I wonder how many nonbelievers the Bible have churned out?
[QUOTE="FamiBox"]
I'm not watching that for 1 hour and 20 minutes.
Regardless, going from believing in one thing of which there is no evidence to support it to another thing of which there is no evidence to support it. Big deal.
Snipes_2
There is evidence :|
nope.
[QUOTE="FamiBox"]
I'm not watching that for 1 hour and 20 minutes.
Regardless, going from believing in one thing of which there is no evidence to support it to another thing of which there is no evidence to support it. Big deal.
Snipes_2
There is evidence :|
For those that believe no evidence is needed, for those that don't no evidence is enough. And now I Bid thee Farewell :P
Evidence for the existence of God? Humour me.[QUOTE="Gordon-Gekko"][QUOTE="mfp16"]The bible led me to atheism... I think that's probably a better story.Genetic_CodeSame here. I wonder how many nonbelievers the Bible have churned out?Haha, plenty.
[QUOTE="mfp16"]The bible led me to atheism... I think that's probably a better story.xTheExploitedYou appear to believe in the flying spaghetti monster though? :P If i had to sum up my belief systems,spaghetti bolognese would definitely fill a major part...
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]
No, I will not "Humor" either of you. No matter what I post you'll just try and refute it and it will end in a pointless debate with nothing gained.
FamiBox
That's because there is no evidence.
Lol, See? Your view on the matter is prejudiced. Therefore, any attempt at an argument is pointless.
So there isn't any evidence. Thought so.No, I will not "Humor" either of you. No matter what I post you'll just try and refute it and it will end in a pointless debate with nothing gained.
Snipes_2
[QUOTE="FamiBox"]
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]
No, I will not "Humor" either of you. No matter what I post you'll just try and refute it and it will end in a pointless debate with nothing gained.
Snipes_2
That's because there is no evidence.
Lol, See? Your view on the matter is prejudiced. Therefore, any attempt at an argument is pointless.
So because there is no evidence that makes me prejudiced?
Lmao?
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]So there isn't any evidence. Thought so. The evidence is not the evidence you would accept. So why argue it? Without faith one cannot fathom faith.No, I will not "Humor" either of you. No matter what I post you'll just try and refute it and it will end in a pointless debate with nothing gained.
Gordon-Gekko
[QUOTE="Gordon-Gekko"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]So there isn't any evidence. Thought so. The evidence is not the evidence you would accept. So why argue it? Without faith one cannot fathom faith.No, I will not "Humor" either of you. No matter what I post you'll just try and refute it and it will end in a pointless debate with nothing gained.
LJS9502_basic
Exactly. Pulling the "No Evidence" argument is exasperating.
[QUOTE="Gordon-Gekko"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]So there isn't any evidence. Thought so. The evidence is not the evidence you would accept. So why argue it? Without faith one cannot fathom faith.No, I will not "Humor" either of you. No matter what I post you'll just try and refute it and it will end in a pointless debate with nothing gained.
LJS9502_basic
It's not evidence at all.
The evidence is not the evidence you would accept. So why argue it? Without faith one cannot fathom faith.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Gordon-Gekko"]So there isn't any evidence. Thought so.Snipes_2
Exactly. Pulling the "No Evidence" argument is exasperating.
Fine then. The flying Spaghetti monster exists cos I say so.
The evidence is not the evidence you would accept. So why argue it? Without faith one cannot fathom faith.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Gordon-Gekko"]So there isn't any evidence. Thought so.FamiBox
It's not evidence at all.
No. That would not be correct to say. It's not evidence to YOU.The evidence is not the evidence you would accept. So why argue it? Without faith one cannot fathom faith.LJS9502_basicBy that logic, you can use faith to justify any belief.
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The evidence is not the evidence you would accept. So why argue it? Without faith one cannot fathom faith.FamiBox
Exactly. Pulling the "No Evidence" argument is exasperating.
Fine then. The flying Spaghetti monster exists cos I say so.
You just proved my point. Someone didn't randomly say "Oh, Hey, God's a Cool name for a Being that is Infinite" (Writes Bible with Friends) :|
[QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The evidence is not the evidence you would accept. So why argue it? Without faith one cannot fathom faith.LJS9502_basic
It's not evidence at all.
No. That would not be correct to say. It's not evidence to YOU.
It must be some pretty crappy evidence then.
Anyhow, I want scientific evidence.
[QUOTE="mfp16"]The bible led me to atheism... I think that's probably a better story.xTheExploitedYou appear to believe in the flying spaghetti monster though? :P I just find that to be the most plausible of arguments... I was touched by his noodly appendage, what more can I say! :)
[QUOTE="FamiBox"]
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]
Exactly. Pulling the "No Evidence" argument is exasperating.
Fine then. The flying Spaghetti monster exists cos I say so.
You just proved my point. Someone didn't randomly say "Oh, Hey, God's a Cool name for a Being that is Infinite" (Writes Bible with Friends) :|
so the fact that someone wouldn't have made it up for no reason is a point to that it's true? Or am I reading wrong. Seriously I'm curious what are the views?[QUOTE="FamiBox"]
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]
Exactly. Pulling the "No Evidence" argument is exasperating.
Snipes_2
Fine then. The flying Spaghetti monster exists cos I say so.
You just proved my point. Someone didn't randomly say "Oh, Hey, God's a Cool name for a Being that is Infinite" (Writes Bible with Friends) :|
No.. it was more drawn out than that.
[QUOTE="FamiBox"]
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]
Exactly. Pulling the "No Evidence" argument is exasperating.
Snipes_2
Fine then. The flying Spaghetti monster exists cos I say so.
You just proved my point. Someone didn't randomly say "Oh, Hey, God's a Cool name for a Being that is Infinite" (Writes Bible with Friends) :|
actually... that is probably exactly how it happened... just with more genocide murder and oppression mixed in...[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The evidence is not the evidence you would accept. So why argue it? Without faith one cannot fathom faith.Genetic_CodeBy that logic, you can use faith to justify any belief.I believe my car can fly. I have no proof of that. Thus I cannot justify that belief.
[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The evidence is not the evidence you would accept. So why argue it? Without faith one cannot fathom faith.LJS9502_basicBy that logic, you can use faith to justify any belief.I believe my car can fly. I have no proof of that. Thus I cannot justify that belief.
But you can't disprove their isn't an invisible magical flying car out in space.
I believe my car can fly. I have no proof of that. Thus I cannot justify that belief.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Genetic_Code"] By that logic, you can use faith to justify any belief.FamiBox
But you can't disprove their isn't an invisible magical flying car out in space.
That is not my belief and thus has nothing to do with my response to Genetic.[QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I believe my car can fly. I have no proof of that. Thus I cannot justify that belief.LJS9502_basic
But you can't disprove their isn't an invisible magical flying car out in space.
That is not my belief and thus has nothing to do with my response to Genetic.You still can't disprove it. That's the point.
[QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I believe my car can fly. I have no proof of that. Thus I cannot justify that belief.LJS9502_basic
But you can't disprove their isn't an invisible magical flying car out in space.
That is not my belief and thus has nothing to do with my response to Genetic. You guys should just ignore these guys. Dont let them get to you, its pointless.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]That is not my belief and thus has nothing to do with my response to Genetic. You guys should just ignore these guys. Dont let them get to you, its pointless.But you can't disprove their isn't an invisible magical flying car out in space.
JudgementEden
It's OK. I won't let these religious folks get to me, it's pointless.
God's a title, not a name. I highly doubt Judaism is the first religion to originate the term "god". In fact, it probably started from the polytheistic beliefs of the ancient Egyptians and atheists and Christians both believe that those gods don't exist. Your argument can be used to justify the Qur'an, yet the Qur'an and the Bible can't both be true because they contradict.You just proved my point. Someone didn't randomly say "Oh, Hey, God's a Cool name for a Being that is Infinite" (Writes Bible with Friends) :|
Snipes_2
I believe my car can fly. I have no proof of that. Thus I cannot justify that belief.LJS9502_basicThen religion is automatically unjustified as well since there is no proof of that.
You guys should just ignore these guys. Dont let them get to you, its pointless.[QUOTE="JudgementEden"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That is not my belief and thus has nothing to do with my response to Genetic.FamiBox
It's OK. I won't let these religious folks get to me, it's pointless.
My post was referring TO the religious folks, since you know, im one of them.[QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="JudgementEden"] You guys should just ignore these guys. Dont let them get to you, its pointless.JudgementEden
It's OK. I won't let these religious folks get to me, it's pointless.
My post was referring TO the religious folks, since you know, im one of them.I realised that. I think the non-religious are entitled to not have religious folk not "get to them" aren't they?
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