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#1 savebattery
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I want to preface this by saying that I am by no means a soccer fan. I don't like the game, and often make fun of people who play it because I'm a jerk.

That said, I happened to watch a Colorado Rapids game the other day. And upon doing so, a bunch of things immediately occurred to me that would help Major League Soccer further cement itself as a mainstream league in the United States and Canada.

First and foremost, the league needs to stop trying to emulate the Euro Leagues. The Euro Leagues have the superior talent and the tradition, so if MLS isn't any different at all then people don't have any reason to watch it.

Instead, Major League Soccer should try to learn from the example set by the four major sports leagues in the United States (MLB, NFL, NBA, and NHL).

I'd never really watched many soccer games before, but when I watched the first thing I noticed was the clock. It counts up, instead of down. While this is pretty normal for soccer fans, the average guy sitting on the couch is going to be confused it he happens to flip to an MLS game. If the clock is counting up, how does the casual fan know how much time is left in the game? Real soccer fans know, but MLS already has their support, so that's a moot point. Use a clock that counts DOWN, so that people accustomed to other sports recognize things immediately when seeing the product for the first time.

Another thought along this line is the concept of "extra time", "stoppage time", and "injury time". Would it be so difficult to stop the damned clock like every other sport in this country? Because it appeared to me that the only person who knew how much time they were supposed to keep playing for after regulation ran out was the guy keeping the clock. The players and fans all looked pretty confused, because it was some arbitrary number like 6 minutes and 43 seconds. The average fan not knowing how much "extra time" they're going to play removes from the suspense and makes it boring.

Moving to another point, for the love of god, get rid of ties. The NHL finally wised up and did this a few years ago. There's nothing American sports fans hate worse than ties. A tie is like kissing your sister, as the old saying goes. And nobody wants to kiss their sister, all inbreeding jokes aside. Move to an overtime period, a shoot out, or both. I don't care. But when I sit down and watch an entire game, I want it to come to a reasonable conclusion. American fans are not "soccer purists". Most of us aren't watching for the appreciation of a match well played. We like to have winners and losers.

Another reason to get rid of the tie is that it adds to the excitement and aggression. Teams cannot "play for the tie", so to speak. They can't play a conservative styIe of game hoping to get the points necessary to secure playoff seeding. They have to play for the win, which means more scoring. And if teams are scoring, it's more exciting.

And I may show some ignorance of the rules of MLS on this point, but bear with me. In the hour or so of soccer I watched, I saw at least 25 flops. They really, really need to crack down on that. It only furthers the stereotype in America of soccer players being whiners and sissies. And Americans don't like whiners.

The last one is an ENTIRELY subjective and personal complaint that I have, and it's the names of the teams. Chivas USA, Real Salt Lake, DC United, Philadelphia Union, LA Galaxy. There's no consistency. The average fan has no freaking idea what they're talking about. Americans like teams named after animals and things. The Philadelphia Eagles, San Jose Sharks, Dallas Mavericks. The team names in Major League Soccer don't really have any continuity with the team names from the other major sports.

Well, there you go. That's just my assessment as an American sports fan. I have a particular interest in mid-major league sports leagues, and what makes them succeed and fail. I've watched the Arena Football League, the XFL, the NBA Development League, the National Lacrosse League, Major League Lacrosse, and lots of Minor League Baseball. I've seen lots of leagues do really smart things, and lots of leagues do really stupid things. I think that Major League Soccer could really take off it they just made an effort to reach out to fans of other sports my making their game more recognizable to us. What do you guys think?

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#2 my_mortal_coil
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Two words:

Bigger goals.

If they scored more often than once every 40 minutes it MIGHT be fun to watch.

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#3 lol_haha_dead
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Can u sum this up a bit plz?
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You want my advice on Soccer in the US? GIVE UP!! Never gonna happen.
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#5 lol_haha_dead
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You want my advice on Soccer in the US? GIVE UP!! Never gonna happen.blackngold29
Ah, I see ur from New Orleans. Me too!
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Rig it and choreograph it to make it look super cool....like wrestling >___>

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#7 savebattery
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You want my advice on Soccer in the US? GIVE UP!! Never gonna happen.blackngold29
I hate soccer, but it's definitely here to stay in America. MLS teams are starting to turn profits for the first time ever, and soccer-specific stadiums are being built all over the country. And the US National soccer team is gaining more and more respectability. Not to mention the fact that it's one of the most popular youth sports in the country. And anyway, this wasn't the point of the thread in the first place. The point was to discuss how it could become MORE marketable than it is now, not how it could become the way it is in Europe and South America.
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#8 savebattery
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Two words:

Bigger goals.

If they scored more often than once every 40 minutes it MIGHT be fun to watch.

my_mortal_coil
The problem there is that it would screw up the teams and players in competitions regulated by foreign governing bodies. But getting rid of ties and cutting back on flopping would increase scoring anyway.
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Rig it and choreograph it to make it look super cool....like wrestling >___>

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I'm not sure there is a lot that can happen to make soccer any more popular, people just wont care about it ayway

It never will be our sport, even though we are starting to get good at it and its popularity is increasing a tiny bit

oh, and the players could look less like little pansy twig boys :P jk

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dude you are completely wrong in every aspect of your improvements. What you summarized is what the MLS should avoid completely. Soccer isn't played in only one country like the NFL its the worlds most famous sport and all countries with soccer (Football) leagues follow FIFA regulations which controls everything that has to do with the sport. Changing the things mentioned will degrade the MLS at the international level and players will find the rules laughable. Also about the club names it has a long history of naming teams after their cities, so the MLS is trying to follow that route. Also all those things that you mentioned have been tried in the MLS their used to be shoot outs at the end of every game, the clock has also counted down but players and fans petitioned for it to count up, stoping the game for every foul made will slow the game down and make it boring to watch imo. I do agree with you about the flops and this can get solved by training refs more efficiently. What the MLS needs to do is finding a way to get our Jordan's, Lebrons. T.O.'s, and Our Best Athletes to start playing soccer this would create so much talent. The U.S. has potential to become one of the greatest football nations on earth but it seems it will never happen until american sports fans embrace soccer for what it is.
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Two words:

Bigger goals.

If they scored more often than once every 40 minutes it MIGHT be fun to watch.

my_mortal_coil

It can be a good game without lots of goals. I enjoy soccer the way it is. Don't agree with the TC's points either.

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I got a solution: Make it not soccer.
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Two words: exploding ball
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dude you are completely wrong in every aspect of your improvements. What you summarized is what the MLS should avoid completely. Soccer isn't played in only one country like the NFL its the worlds most famous sport and all countries with soccer (Football) leagues follow FIFA regulations which controls everything that has to do with the sport. Changing the things mentioned will degrade the MLS at the international level and players will find the rules laughable. Also about the club names it has a long history of naming teams after their cities, so the MLS is trying to follow that route. Also all those things that you mentioned have been tried in the MLS their used to be shoot outs at the end of every game, the clock has also counted down but players and fans petitioned for it to count up, stoping the game for every foul made will slow the game down and make it boring to watch imo. I do agree with you about the flops and this can get solved by training refs more efficiently. What the MLS needs to do is finding a way to get our Jordan's, Lebrons. T.O.'s, and Our Best Athletes to start playing soccer this would create so much talent. The U.S. has potential to become one of the greatest football nations on earth but it seems it will never happen until american sports fans embrace soccer for what it is.kingcobrasoccer
See, what you're not getting are the reasons why Americans don't accept soccer. Americans aren't going to adapt to soccer. Soccer has to adapt to America or remain a fringe sport here forever. MLS is already "degraded" at the international level. And what happens in international soccer isn't relevant to the casual American fan.
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Soccer is excruciatingly defense-based sport. A sport that has a lot more focus on stopping the other team from scoring than scoring yourself IMO. I don't think most Americans will ever take a liking to the sport unless they're raised around the sport and you can fully appreciate the skills that go with playing it.

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I just don't want a big soccer hooligan scene.

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Let it be known about all of the rioting

we would love that

every time you win a game you get to go around town and break stuff and set it on fire :P

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I don't even care if Americans like soccer, the world loves it anyways.
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[QUOTE="kingcobrasoccer"]dude you are completely wrong in every aspect of your improvements. What you summarized is what the MLS should avoid completely. Soccer isn't played in only one country like the NFL its the worlds most famous sport and all countries with soccer (Football) leagues follow FIFA regulations which controls everything that has to do with the sport. Changing the things mentioned will degrade the MLS at the international level and players will find the rules laughable. Also about the club names it has a long history of naming teams after their cities, so the MLS is trying to follow that route. Also all those things that you mentioned have been tried in the MLS their used to be shoot outs at the end of every game, the clock has also counted down but players and fans petitioned for it to count up, stoping the game for every foul made will slow the game down and make it boring to watch imo. I do agree with you about the flops and this can get solved by training refs more efficiently. What the MLS needs to do is finding a way to get our Jordan's, Lebrons. T.O.'s, and Our Best Athletes to start playing soccer this would create so much talent. The U.S. has potential to become one of the greatest football nations on earth but it seems it will never happen until american sports fans embrace soccer for what it is.savebattery
See, what you're not getting are the reasons why Americans don't accept soccer. Americans aren't going to adapt to soccer. Soccer has to adapt to America or remain a fringe sport here forever. MLS is already "degraded" at the international level. And what happens in international soccer isn't relevant to the casual American fan.

Soccer will never change. The only thing that changed is its name and thats as far as it goes. Americans are simply not built to enjoy soccer and that is the truth. The only reason soccer is growing is due to the many immigrants from foreign countries that are bringing the love of the sport to this country. The MLS is actually gaining some respect for itself we have a decent national team that can compete with the elite teams and we are attracting international players which is good. I think MLS is degraded among the United States by the american sports fans which i perfectly understand imo. most americans prefer cars driving in circles or watching golf then soccer.

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I'll start off by saying that I'm a die-hard MLS fan, one of the few die-hards on this site, I'd imagine. That has been done. When the league started in 1996, the clock counted down. Shootouts decided ties. Teams were named "Dallas Burn" and "Kansas City Wiz." But the thing was, nobody's gonna watch a league that's different from the sport the rest of the world knows and loves. The North American Soccer League, the predecessor of MLS, totally ignored the international game and, including other factors, died a painful death in the 1980s. So MLS dropped the down-counting clock and went with the standard clock. Ties existed again. Teams were cleverly named, unlike in '96. And people are coming out in droves. Toronto has sold out every game in its existence and Seattle is currently averaging about 29,000 fans per game. Philadelphia's supporters group Sons of Ben practically convinced MLS to put a team there. What MLS needs to do is appeal to soccer fans, not the fairweather American sports fan. It's not like Seattle grew 30,000 soccer fans overnight, they marketed the product perfectly and flawlessly and it's worked amazingly. Also, it's worth it to note that the reason MLS exists in the first place is to improve the US national team. It's been a success, I'd say, with MLS players going on to bigger and better things in Europe. The only way this can continue is if MLS continues be true to the sport, not some American hybrid built "for the masses."
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#22 savebattery
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="kingcobrasoccer"]dude you are completely wrong in every aspect of your improvements. What you summarized is what the MLS should avoid completely. Soccer isn't played in only one country like the NFL its the worlds most famous sport and all countries with soccer (Football) leagues follow FIFA regulations which controls everything that has to do with the sport. Changing the things mentioned will degrade the MLS at the international level and players will find the rules laughable. Also about the club names it has a long history of naming teams after their cities, so the MLS is trying to follow that route. Also all those things that you mentioned have been tried in the MLS their used to be shoot outs at the end of every game, the clock has also counted down but players and fans petitioned for it to count up, stoping the game for every foul made will slow the game down and make it boring to watch imo. I do agree with you about the flops and this can get solved by training refs more efficiently. What the MLS needs to do is finding a way to get our Jordan's, Lebrons. T.O.'s, and Our Best Athletes to start playing soccer this would create so much talent. The U.S. has potential to become one of the greatest football nations on earth but it seems it will never happen until american sports fans embrace soccer for what it is.kingcobrasoccer

See, what you're not getting are the reasons why Americans don't accept soccer. Americans aren't going to adapt to soccer. Soccer has to adapt to America or remain a fringe sport here forever. MLS is already "degraded" at the international level. And what happens in international soccer isn't relevant to the casual American fan.

Soccer will never change. The only thing that changed is its name and thats as far as it goes. Americans are simply not built to enjoy soccer and that is the truth. The only reason soccer is growing is due to the many immigrants from foreign countries that are bringing the love of the sport to this country. The MLS is actually gaining some respect for itself we have a decent national team that can compete with the elite teams and we are attracting international players which is good. I think MLS is degraded among the United States by the american sports fans which i perfectly understand imo. most americans prefer cars driving in circles or watching golf then soccer.

First off, most of the players on the US National Team don't even play in MLS. Second, you're not understanding the point of this topic. The point is for MARKETABILITY to grow. The point is not to pander to some standard set by FIFA or the Euro leagues. The steps I suggested would almost surely improve marketability.
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Change the rules to allow tackling and hockey style fights.
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[QUOTE="savebattery"]First off, most of the players on the US National Team don't even play in MLS. Second, you're not understanding the point of this topic. The point is for MARKETABILITY to grow. The point is not to pander to some standard set by FIFA or the Euro leagues. The steps I suggested would almost surely improve marketability.

Let's look at the US national team's lineup for the July 4th game vs Grenada, shall we? Of their 18-man roster used in the game, 10 players currently play in MLS and four used to. Of the US team's 30-man roster used for the whole Gold Cup, 19 currently play in MLS and six used to. As for marketability, the recent Confederations Cup run doesnt hurt.
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#25 blackngold29
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Change the rules to allow tackling and hockey style fights.fidosim
Also change it from a ball to a puck, and they should play on ice.
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Don't play "soccer" in America, just stick to your own sports and let the rest of the world play it,simple.
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[QUOTE="kingcobrasoccer"]dude you are completely wrong in every aspect of your improvements. What you summarized is what the MLS should avoid completely. Soccer isn't played in only one country like the NFL its the worlds most famous sport and all countries with soccer (Football) leagues follow FIFA regulations which controls everything that has to do with the sport. Changing the things mentioned will degrade the MLS at the international level and players will find the rules laughable. Also about the club names it has a long history of naming teams after their cities, so the MLS is trying to follow that route. Also all those things that you mentioned have been tried in the MLS their used to be shoot outs at the end of every game, the clock has also counted down but players and fans petitioned for it to count up, stoping the game for every foul made will slow the game down and make it boring to watch imo. I do agree with you about the flops and this can get solved by training refs more efficiently. What the MLS needs to do is finding a way to get our Jordan's, Lebrons. T.O.'s, and Our Best Athletes to start playing soccer this would create so much talent. The U.S. has potential to become one of the greatest football nations on earth but it seems it will never happen until american sports fans embrace soccer for what it is.savebattery
See, what you're not getting are the reasons why Americans don't accept soccer. Americans aren't going to adapt to soccer. Soccer has to adapt to America or remain a fringe sport here forever. MLS is already "degraded" at the international level. And what happens in international soccer isn't relevant to the casual American fan.

No, soccer doesn't have to adapt, just leave the Americans who enjoy watching/playing it keep doing so and the rest with their own sports.
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#28 KDIDDY78
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How do you sell an eskimo ice?

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Here's a life-changing possiblilty: WIN. Soccer gets popular in the U.S. whenever we do well (right after 2002 World Cup, right after women won World Cup in the 90s). It'll probably get popular soon again if we keep doing as well as we did in the Confederation Cup.
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#30 Bruin4ev3r1520
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I think the main reason soccer is not loved in the US is because, despite their recent success...sorta, our national team is sub par. It seems like the more popular sports in the US are the ones we can dominate on an international level, or at least put up a good fight. It doesn't seem to be that way in soccer. If the US team stacked up better against other countries, I think more Americans would be interested. I may be wrong, but that's my opinion. I'm no big soccer expert. I do enjoy watching the international competitions, but I'd never watch a MLS game. Just throwin' in my two cents!
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[QUOTE="thequietguy"]Here's a life-changing possiblilty: WIN. Soccer gets popular in the U.S. whenever we do well (right after 2002 World Cup, right after women won World Cup in the 90s). It'll probably get popular soon again if we keep doing as well as we did in the Confederation Cup.

It's actually statistically shown that the year after each World Cup MLS gets an attendance boost.
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[QUOTE="kingcobrasoccer"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"] See, what you're not getting are the reasons why Americans don't accept soccer. Americans aren't going to adapt to soccer. Soccer has to adapt to America or remain a fringe sport here forever. MLS is already "degraded" at the international level. And what happens in international soccer isn't relevant to the casual American fan. savebattery

Soccer will never change. The only thing that changed is its name and thats as far as it goes. Americans are simply not built to enjoy soccer and that is the truth. The only reason soccer is growing is due to the many immigrants from foreign countries that are bringing the love of the sport to this country. The MLS is actually gaining some respect for itself we have a decent national team that can compete with the elite teams and we are attracting international players which is good. I think MLS is degraded among the United States by the american sports fans which i perfectly understand imo. most americans prefer cars driving in circles or watching golf then soccer.

First off, most of the players on the US National Team don't even play in MLS. Second, you're not understanding the point of this topic. The point is for MARKETABILITY to grow. The point is not to pander to some standard set by FIFA or the Euro leagues. The steps I suggested would almost surely improve marketability.

That's called Selling Out and it will never happen imo. Yes, most of our national team plays in europe but they all started their careers in the MLS which means it does create talent and you cant compare 100 year old leagues(europe) to a league that is barely 14 years old it takes time to create something good it cant be done overnight. You cant compare the Texans an expansion team to the steelers

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[QUOTE="kingcobrasoccer"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"] See, what you're not getting are the reasons why Americans don't accept soccer. Americans aren't going to adapt to soccer. Soccer has to adapt to America or remain a fringe sport here forever. MLS is already "degraded" at the international level. And what happens in international soccer isn't relevant to the casual American fan. savebattery

Soccer will never change. The only thing that changed is its name and thats as far as it goes. Americans are simply not built to enjoy soccer and that is the truth. The only reason soccer is growing is due to the many immigrants from foreign countries that are bringing the love of the sport to this country. The MLS is actually gaining some respect for itself we have a decent national team that can compete with the elite teams and we are attracting international players which is good. I think MLS is degraded among the United States by the american sports fans which i perfectly understand imo. most americans prefer cars driving in circles or watching golf then soccer.

First off, most of the players on the US National Team don't even play in MLS. Second, you're not understanding the point of this topic. The point is for MARKETABILITY to grow. The point is not to pander to some standard set by FIFA or the Euro leagues. The steps I suggested would almost surely improve marketability.

Dude please just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

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#34 carrot-cake
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I dunno, I don't think soccer..Err, FOOTBALL will ever be popular in north America as a major league sport. Everyone is too interested in Hockey and American football.

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the only way americans will take soccer seriously is if team USA starts playing like the rest of the world. then we will start to notice that we are kicking everyones ass around cause thats what us americans like. to watch our dominance in sports
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#36 FUBAR24
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="kingcobrasoccer"] Soccer will never change. The only thing that changed is its name and thats as far as it goes. Americans are simply not built to enjoy soccer and that is the truth. The only reason soccer is growing is due to the many immigrants from foreign countries that are bringing the love of the sport to this country. The MLS is actually gaining some respect for itself we have a decent national team that can compete with the elite teams and we are attracting international players which is good. I think MLS is degraded among the United States by the american sports fans which i perfectly understand imo. most americans prefer cars driving in circles or watching golf then soccer.

kingcobrasoccer

First off, most of the players on the US National Team don't even play in MLS. Second, you're not understanding the point of this topic. The point is for MARKETABILITY to grow. The point is not to pander to some standard set by FIFA or the Euro leagues. The steps I suggested would almost surely improve marketability.

That's called Selling Out and it will never happen imo. Yes, most of our national team plays in europe but they all started their careers in the MLS which means it does create talent and you cant compare 100 year old leagues(europe) to a league that is barely 14 years old it takes time to create something good it cant be done overnight. You cant compare the Texans an expansion team to the steelers

yeah the day MLS sells out for the sake of ratings is the day i stop paying attention to national soccer
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#37 ChicaQueenWarGa
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I would like to see more international teams play on ESPNHD, and not on the crappy GolTV and Fox Sports Espanol, which is all blurry.
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#38 trix5817
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[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="kingcobrasoccer"] Soccer will never change. The only thing that changed is its name and thats as far as it goes. Americans are simply not built to enjoy soccer and that is the truth. The only reason soccer is growing is due to the many immigrants from foreign countries that are bringing the love of the sport to this country. The MLS is actually gaining some respect for itself we have a decent national team that can compete with the elite teams and we are attracting international players which is good. I think MLS is degraded among the United States by the american sports fans which i perfectly understand imo. most americans prefer cars driving in circles or watching golf then soccer.

kingcobrasoccer

First off, most of the players on the US National Team don't even play in MLS. Second, you're not understanding the point of this topic. The point is for MARKETABILITY to grow. The point is not to pander to some standard set by FIFA or the Euro leagues. The steps I suggested would almost surely improve marketability.

That's called Selling Out and it will never happen imo. Yes, most of our national team plays in europe but they all started their careers in the MLS which means it does create talent and you cant compare 100 year old leagues(europe) to a league that is barely 14 years old it takes time to create something good it cant be done overnight. You cant compare the Texans an expansion team to the steelers

"Selling Out"? There's nothing wrong with making a sport more appealing to more people...Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad...

Anyways, the only point I agree with is make MLS players stop being pansies. People should be called out for diving much more often and it should have a stricter penalty. I played high school soccer and club soccer and nothing pissed me off more than a diver.

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#39 trix5817
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I dunno, I don't think soccer..Err, FOOTBALL will ever be popular in north America as a major league sport. Everyone is too interested in Hockey and American football.

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In the US, Hockey is the last on list of the most popular sports (football, baseball, basketball, hockey).

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#40 6_volts
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I would like to see more international teams play on ESPNHD, and not on the crappy GolTV and Fox Sports Espanol, which is all blurry.ChicaQueenWarGa
Pff, FSE is the crappiest sport channel unlike Fox Sports Latinoamerica and Goltv.
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#41 FUBAR24
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

I dunno, I don't think soccer..Err, FOOTBALL will ever be popular in north America as a major league sport. Everyone is too interested in Hockey and American football.

trix5817

In the US, Hockey is the last on list of the most popular sports (football, baseball, basketball, hockey).

hockey has come along way in the past year or so. used to be you could talk about hockey with a friend or two and nobody else would know what your talking about. now if you mention the word blackhawks in my town everyone starts talking about losing havlat and wondering how well hossa will do here and what the heck is up with versteegs contract. and i live about 40 miles SOUTH of chicago
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#42 Vax45
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If you want to market anything, the first thing you need is the appropriate amount cleavage for the thing your trying to sell, which is never none.
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#43 yuri19
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nice idea american guy but impossible. The bodies that internationally deal with football have the goal to keep the game the same around the world nomatter where it is played or what level it is being played at. Thats why there is a huge debate over introducing goal line technology, it would make the upper echelons of the game different to the local sunday pub match. And in the world of football america is still a small fry (though a potentially huge market obviously, andyour international team earned alot of respect in the recent tournament but the world cup is the real test, cannot wait for america vs North Korea lol) so i dont see them changing, nor should they in my view, ties are a part of the game and would not always push teams to be more offensive, ending games in a shootout would lead to what we see in world cups with teams defending for spot kicks, very very dry.

p.s. UP THE PALACE MIGHTY PALACE FROM SELHURST

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#44 enterawesome
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Or maybe if soccer was actually on channels other than ones entirely in Spanish.... Anyways, I don't want it to become popular, otherwise it'll be like the civil wars that take place in Europe over the game. *shivers* People get trampled to death all the time over in Europe at the games, don't they?
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#45 kergon07
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1. İts not soccer, its football. You play it with aBALL and kick it with a foot unlike the other football.

2. Football is too natural andrequires too much skill for Americans(apart from the women) to handle. They like their whimpy pads and armour all around the bodiesof their steroid pumped meatheads.

3. And the time system will not change thats why there is extra time.

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#46 ChicaQueenWarGa
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[QUOTE="ChicaQueenWarGa"]I would like to see more international teams play on ESPNHD, and not on the crappy GolTV and Fox Sports Espanol, which is all blurry.6_volts
Pff, FSE is the crappiest sport channel unlike Fox Sports Latinoamerica and Goltv.

At least they play soccer. That's all that matters.
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#47 CQCmasta
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Doesn't the MLS have some joint agreement with FIFA? Like almost every other domestic league in every country, if so you can't change the rules that are set by FIFA.

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#48 illegalimigrant
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You can't change Chivas USA because if you do then all the Chivas fans will not care for Chivas USA. Chivas is a soccer team from Mexico. Chivas USA the US version.
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#49 CBR600-RR
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I don't agree with your points, maybe the average soccer fan who doesn't know how long a game is or knows what stoppage time is should watch some European soccer to get the idea. It's not that hard to understand.

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#50 kweeni
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how popular is soccer in america? and why do you guys call it "soccer"?