How to tell my best friend to stop using drugs....(serious manner)

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#1 batsy4life
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NOTE: Please, only serious answers if possible.

I feel like I should not STOP her, she' a person I love and she should decide what to do on her own. However, she recently went to a rave and took X. She missed three weeks of school (depressed of course from the X she took), she felt tired, got into trouble with her parents, and began to take anti-depressent pills to get that high back. She tells me that she is a strong woman and knows she isn't addicted, she says she'll only do it when she goes out to party. She's done some other drugs in the past and I dont know if she is still doing any other drug right now (she tries to hide the truth because she thinks I'll be ashamed of her.)

I believe everything she says when it comes to being in control and disciplined enough to know whats addiction and what isnt. So I have another question (besides the first one of course) I have a plan to show her that I love her too much to lose her to a bunch of drugs (some of them that her boyfriend might do as well) I was thinkning of creating a list of drugs she might do. If she ever does anyone of them, I want her to be honest about it and tell me. Everytime she does it, I want her to either stab me (yes, to give me a puncture wound..yes thats right) or punch me right in my face. Now besides this being a pretty dumb idea, I feel like its a way to see if she'll actually do it (with consequences in mind), to see her honesty at work, and to show her that I dont want to dictate her life, but rather join her in her drug use by inflicting some sort of pain on me.

I want to change her mind when it comes to drugs, seeing as how her life tends to get bad when she uses them (not a surprise I know) I love her and this topic is a touchy one, but I want her to be happy, not temporarily from some drug. Thank you for even reading the entire thing, any advice is greatly appreciated.

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#3 harashawn
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Show her one of those anti-drug films. Seriously, those things are freaky.
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#4 biggest_loser
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You can't stop her from taking drugs. I don't know how old she is but if she is in this state then I assume she is probably my age (don't go by my profile folks). You can merely advice her not to do it. But is her life and call. Sorry. Also, where did she get the anti-depressants from? You need prescription and whatever else for those.
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#5 GettingTired
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I think you know what you're doing. The best thing to do is to get her to understand that you care for her deeply and are worried. (Also, may I inquire how old she is?)
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#6 batsy4life
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Ok, I'll try to add some info. I know that about X, but the addiction part is what I dont know (the long term affects worry me) The anti-depressent pills she got from her mothers cabinet (thus sparking the trouble with her parent, who she always had problems with)..She almost over dosed on the pills BTW. We're 19.
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#7 Serraph105
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the fact that she missed three weeks of school should tell you that she is addicted and has a problem and your pain idea will just give her incentive to lie to you
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#8 black_tempest
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x doesn't effect you for 3 weeks. it takes about a day for you serotonin level to get back to normal, and about 3 days for it to get out of your system. try telling a more believable story next time.dooly420
True, but that most likely wouldn't be the only factor in her life leading to her depression, which would obviously explain the seemigly over exaggerated time
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#9 teh_destroyer
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I have a friend that was a druggie for a long time,(now sober for just over a year :D)I yeld at him to stop one time and i don't know if it was me that he listend to or not,but i was in tears when i told him he was not only hurting himself,but his friends also.I am very proud that he fought through his addictions and won over.
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#10 konvikt_17
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just show her some videos about addiction, they usually have alot of scennes where its a nasty picture of a drug addict. and that is not what you want to look like. maybe those could work
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#11 Darth_Tyrev
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Ok, I'll try to add some info. I know that about X, but the addiction part is what I dont know (the long term affects worry me) The anti-depressent pills she got from her mothers cabinet (thus sparking the trouble with her parent, who she always had problems with)..She almost over dosed on the pills BTW. We're 19.batsy4life

Wait, are you asking about the addictiveness of X or anti-depressants? X isn't physically addictive, but mental addiction is an entirely different story that varies from person to person. As for the anti-depressants, those can be very addictive depending on her personality and what she's taking.

 

And you need to talk to her, you can't magically make her stop doing drugs. Just tell her how you feel about it, and try to make her feel that people (including you) care about her and that you feel drugs are effecting her in a negative way.

 

That's the best I could do...

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#12 batsy4life
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Its the combination that can be dangerous(the crash=pills (ALOT=hospital=miss school=parents getting angry of course). An addiction is an addiction and no way around it, some may be fatal, some might have adverse effects in the long term. Also, thanks to everyone who has replied.
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#13 funnymario
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Stabbing thing is a seriously bad idea. But if you really feel that physical pain is the answer, do it Naruto style. Grab her, yell in her face, and headbutt her super hard.
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#14 batsy4life
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Stabbing thing is a seriously bad idea. But if you really feel that physical pain is the answer, do it Naruto style. Grab her, yell in her face, and headbutt her super hard.funnymario

I dont think I want to go Naruto on her..but I'll think about it.

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#15 x_Martyr_x
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from how your describing the situation she is looking for attention from using the drugs, thats what its really about. dont worry about a drug addiction at this point. you must let her know that there is no future in drug using, so there is absolutly no point in getting started.
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#16 Dylan_11
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Fact remains that she is a grown women, really any attempt you take will be taken badly by your friend. Most people that need help don't see it that way. Your best bet would be an intervention of some kind involving family and close friends, if the addiction is really bad you may want to consult some rehabilitation and see if you can really inform her that the help is out there. Other than that just be a good friend and try and take care of her while she is going through this. Also as a side note you should be more worried about those anti-depressants than the X.
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#17 helium_flash
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Hm.  Try taking her to a clinic from some psychotherapy advice?  Your plan seems a little... extreme?

Why do you love her so much?  Does she love you as much as you love her?

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#18 MOCHIRON_MAN
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Hoo, this is a tough one, but I'll do my best to answer this. I think that you need to have a sit down talk with you best friend, heart to heart, explain to your friend the results of drug use, and try to convince this friend of yours that it isn't the right thing to do, if nothing else works.

If you try hard enough with your friend, this may work, and you could get through it. Though if it doesn't work, try spending time with your friend and see what went wrong to make them go onto drugs, and maybe you can even help him/her get through it. If it doesn't work, keep trying. I've seen alot of cases like this, and these kinds of solutions have about a 39% chance of a working.

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#19 nimatoad2000
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ive been wondering how to do this for my own friend for the longest time.. and the films / shows wont work.. he actually likes the show intervention and has no effect on him .. /headdesk
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#20 iam2green
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i think the stabbing thing is a good idea. i think u should get her off that stuff because she can over does on that stuff :(
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#21 Jekken6
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Steal her drugs and sell them
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Unfortunatly ive seen alot of wonderful girls go down the road of "X" and "Coke" and its not pretty. If your thread was about a friend who smokes weed sometimes i would say "Big deal", but with X and Coke its so much worse imo. People totally change when they depend on X or Coke and its sad to see. You also never know what coke or X has been laced with while it was beign made or cut.

If you really love the person do your best to help them out, if after you ahve tried 110% to help them and they dont listen, then there might not be much you can do.

WIsh you and your friend the best man, its a sad thing when people get hooked on these kind of drugs.

Some people are completely differnt when the do X or Coke for the first time. Times ive seen friends at partys all coked or X'd up and they are just acting ridicolous and totally not there self when on the drugs. Some people just totally change when the drugs have a hold of them unfortunatly.

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#23 I_Am_Sexy
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LOL drugs aren't really that bad

shes just a drama queen using the drugs as an excuse to mask other problems

the drugs aren't causing the problems, she's hiding behind drugs, the real problem that causes her to use the drugs is what you need to figure out and help her with, and then maybe she won't use dope so much

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#24 kozzy1234
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LOL drugs aren't really that bad

shes just a drama queen using the drugs as an excuse to mask other problems

the drugs aren't causing the problems, she's hiding behind drugs, the real problem that causes her to use the drugs is what you need to figure out and help her with, and then maybe she won't use dope so much

I_Am_Sexy

Trust me, the drugs DONT HELP what ever is bothering her. You cant compare doing coke or X to having a few beers or smoking a joint to let off some stress or problems. She could very easily get hooked on those drugs. I agree that she probably has some other problems/issues, but the drugs will only make them worse if she gets hooked.

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#25 I_Am_Sexy
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]

LOL drugs aren't really that bad

shes just a drama queen using the drugs as an excuse to mask other problems

the drugs aren't causing the problems, she's hiding behind drugs, the real problem that causes her to use the drugs is what you need to figure out and help her with, and then maybe she won't use dope so much

Trust me, the drugs DONT HELP what ever is bothering her. You cant compare doing coke or X to having a few beers or smoking a joint to let off some stress or problems. She could very easily get hooked on those drugs. I agree that she probably has some other problems/issues, but the drugs will only make them worse if she gets hooked.

LOL bro that's why people use E or blow, because it's such an intense high, they don't have to focus on any problems
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#26 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]

LOL drugs aren't really that bad

shes just a drama queen using the drugs as an excuse to mask other problems

the drugs aren't causing the problems, she's hiding behind drugs, the real problem that causes her to use the drugs is what you need to figure out and help her with, and then maybe she won't use dope so much

I_Am_Sexy

Trust me, the drugs DONT HELP what ever is bothering her. You cant compare doing coke or X to having a few beers or smoking a joint to let off some stress or problems. She could very easily get hooked on those drugs. I agree that she probably has some other problems/issues, but the drugs will only make them worse if she gets hooked.

LOL bro that's why people use E or blow, because it's such an intense high, they don't have to focus on any problems

I know that man lol. Im just saying that doing it isnt going to make her problems go away, it will only cause her more problems if she gets addicted and it becomes a daily thing. Seen it happen to old friends, starts with once a week, then few times a week then daily, its really sad :(  Of course some can handle it and dont abuse it and it doesnt become that big of a problem for them, but for others they can get addicted easily.

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#27 white_sox
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You can't stop her from taking drugs. I don't know how old she is but if she is in this state then I assume she is probably my age (don't go by my profile folks). You can merely advice her not to do it. But is her life and call. Sorry. Also, where did she get the anti-depressants from? You need prescription and whatever else for those. biggest_loser
Prescription pills are some of the easiest and most available drugs for younger drug users to get their hands on.
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#28 I_Am_Sexy
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I know that man lol. Im just saying that doing it isnt going to make her problems go away, it will only cause her more problems if she gets addicted and it becomes a daily thing. Seen it happen to old friends, starts with once a week, then few times a week then daily, its really sad :( Of course some can handle it and dont abuse it and it doesnt become that big of a problem for them, but for others they can get addicted easily.kozzy1234

LOL if she gets addicted it will just replace her other problmes, all she will think about is scoring some more LOL

no, I know what you mean, but I'm just saying to the guy who made the thread that his girl has other issues. he needs to help her with those problems, cause those are the ones that make her turn to drugs in the first place

get to the root of the problem, and everything else will go away too

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#29 indian_playa
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NOTE: Please, only serious answers if possible.

I feel like I should not STOP her, she' a person I love and she should decide what to do on her own. However, she recently went to a rave and took X. She missed three weeks of school (depressed of course from the X she took), she felt tired, got into trouble with her parents, and began to take anti-depressent pills to get that high back. She tells me that she is a strong woman and knows she isn't addicted, she says she'll only do it when she goes out to party. She's done some other drugs in the past and I dont know if she is still doing any other drug right now (she tries to hide the truth because she thinks I'll be ashamed of her.)

I believe everything she says when it comes to being in control and disciplined enough to know whats addiction and what isnt. So I have another question (besides the first one of course) I have a plan to show her that I love her too much to lose her to a bunch of drugs (some of them that her boyfriend might do as well) I was thinkning of creating a list of drugs she might do. If she ever does anyone of them, I want her to be honest about it and tell me. Everytime she does it, I want her to either stab me (yes, to give me a puncture wound..yes thats right) or punch me right in my face. Now besides this being a pretty dumb idea, I feel like its a way to see if she'll actually do it (with consequences in mind), to see her honesty at work, and to show her that I dont want to dictate her life, but rather join her in her drug use by inflicting some sort of pain on me.

I want to change her mind when it comes to drugs, seeing as how her life tends to get bad when she uses them (not a surprise I know) I love her and this topic is a touchy one, but I want her to be happy, not temporarily from some drug. Thank you for even reading the entire thing, any advice is greatly appreciated.

batsy4life

 that has got to be the stupidest idea i have ever heard. addicts will lie, steal, abandon their families, betray their friends, and sink to disturbing lows to get their fix. just because this friend is not that far off yet does not mean you can test her bond. 

She took X, missed 3 weeks of school, and you believe that she is in control of her addiction? i think you are just turning a blind eye to how bad her situation really is. At most, give her one chance to start turning her life around. confront her about her drug abuse and how you feel about it. If she does not start some sort of rehab, then cut her out of your life. You should not get dragged down by her

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#30 batsy4life
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]I know that man lol. Im just saying that doing it isnt going to make her problems go away, it will only cause her more problems if she gets addicted and it becomes a daily thing. Seen it happen to old friends, starts with once a week, then few times a week then daily, its really sad :( Of course some can handle it and dont abuse it and it doesnt become that big of a problem for them, but for others they can get addicted easily.I_Am_Sexy

LOL if she gets addicted it will just replace her other problmes, all she will think about is scoring some more LOL

no, I know what you mean, but I'm just saying to the guy who made the thread that his girl has other issues. he needs to help her with those problems, cause those are the ones that make her turn to drugs in the first place

get to the root of the problem, and everything else will go away too

I get what you mean...It'll be hard to tell her: 'You gots problems lady, fix them.' But I get it, maybe it is what you say, I'll have it in mind though, thanks for the different perspective.

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#31 I_Am_Sexy
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[QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]I know that man lol. Im just saying that doing it isnt going to make her problems go away, it will only cause her more problems if she gets addicted and it becomes a daily thing. Seen it happen to old friends, starts with once a week, then few times a week then daily, its really sad :( Of course some can handle it and dont abuse it and it doesnt become that big of a problem for them, but for others they can get addicted easily.batsy4life

LOL if she gets addicted it will just replace her other problmes, all she will think about is scoring some more LOL

no, I know what you mean, but I'm just saying to the guy who made the thread that his girl has other issues. he needs to help her with those problems, cause those are the ones that make her turn to drugs in the first place

get to the root of the problem, and everything else will go away too

I get what you mean...It'll be hard to tell her: 'You gots problems lady, fix them.' But I get it, maybe it is what you say, I'll have it in mind though, thanks for the different perspective.

LOL no problem bro but maybe you should help her with those problems, well I guess it all depends on how much you care about her
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#32 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

get to the root of the problem, and everything else will go away too

I_Am_Sexy

Definatly agree with you on that, just might be harder for her to get to that root of the problem with her on alot of drugs at the same time.

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#33 I_Am_Sexy
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="I_Am_Sexy"] get to the root of the problem, and everything else will go away too

Definatly agree with you on that, just might be harder for her to get to that root of the problem with her on alot of drugs at the same time.

He just has to find out what triggered her desire to use them in the first place
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#34 kingman03
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Tell her to get more pure mdma next time and stop doing random x pills.

 

Or just tell her to switch to a different scene of friends that don't do drugs as often. She's obviously getting it from someone you probably know too.

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#35 freshgman
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the last thing you need to do is smother her. that will drive her farther away
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the last thing you need to do is smother her. that will drive her farther awayfreshgman

Could you elaborate on that?

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#37 Rekunta
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Let her know how you feel. This is something that she is going to have to go through......who knows? Maybe it's a phase that will only last a year or so. It could be over next week. My best advice to you is to let her know that you are there for her if she needs you, but not for anything drug related. Don't impose what you believe to be right on her just because she's doing something you don't agree with, that will create distance and friction between you two. Don't judge, but show caring. She is the only one that will be able to stop using, so don't bother with begging, pleading, getting stabbed.....any of that. Addicts are con artists and manipulators to the finest degree, and you will get used.

If it gets really bad, get an intervention.

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#38 Dark-Sithious
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Umm, what is X?
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#39 LJS9502_basic
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You can only mention it to her. But she won't stop until she's ready which sometimes means when she's destroyed her life. Nothing you can do about it either.
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#40 joao_22990
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Look, there is no turning back. If she missed 3 weeks of school. either she was in very bad mood, or she did much more. Getting addicted does not deppend on how strong you are. It depends on how you use the drugs. There should be no problem if she does them the resposnsible way, but it seems it isn't so.

My advice is to be as much a friend as you can while she stays on track. But make her know that once something goes wrong, you won't be there for her.

Umm, what is X?Dark-Sithious

I suppose it's ecstasy.

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#41 markop2003
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Shiow her some videos and take her to a clinic if possible, X is one of the few drugs which have very few positives for the amount of negatives
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#42 markop2003
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[QUOTE="freshgman"]the last thing you need to do is smother her. that will drive her farther awaybatsy4life

Could you elaborate on that?

bascially don't just shout don't o drugs at her constantly, she'll just ignore you
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#43 achilles614
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The person has to want to change, if she wants to keep doing drugs you telling her to stop will most likely make her mad. The only advice I can give you is what I did to my best friend when she was doing coke. I straight up told her that coke is messed up and it's a waste of money. I told her to look at herself and imagine where she would be in 10 years if she kept it up and that she's going to either end up A: Living on the street with her mind and body ruined from drugs or B: She'll end up ODing or harming someone else with reckless actions. I made her promise me to never touch it again and if she did I'd kick her ass ;) She hasn't done it since. It worked for me, maybe it'll work for you.
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#44 jakecufc8888
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x doesn't effect you for 3 weeks. it takes about a day for you serotonin level to get back to normal, and about 3 days for it to get out of your system. try telling a more believable story next time.dooly420
QFT. And anti-depressants (ssri's) don't get you high. They just mess with your serotonin levels, which takes weeks to have any effect. This thread seems like some lie made up to start an argument or for TS to try to prove something. Could be wrong though.
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MAke her watch Requiem For A Dream....she'll never want to take drugs again. Awesome movie though BTW
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#46 achilles614
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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]MAke her watch Requiem For A Dream....she'll never want to take drugs again. Awesome movie though BTW

All that movie did was make me want to sell drugs lol and it is a great movie.
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#47 Skylarkell
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Explain how concerned you are for her health and being and make her watch one of those videos.

Good luck TC

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#48 Mercenary848
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Try Rehab
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#50 batsy4life
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[QUOTE="dooly420"]x doesn't effect you for 3 weeks. it takes about a day for you serotonin level to get back to normal, and about 3 days for it to get out of your system. try telling a more believable story next time.jakecufc8888
QFT. And anti-depressants (ssri's) don't get you high. They just mess with your serotonin levels, which takes weeks to have any effect. This thread seems like some lie made up to start an argument or for TS to try to prove something. Could be wrong though.

lol..I'm just as suspicious as you are. She ONLY told me about using X and using antidepressents...she might be hding something else. The things she told me do seem weird and dont make sense. Thats why I think there might be other drugs involved and she always says that she "thinks" she only did that(or that she only tried it again" and not anything else. So many pieces to this puzzle I dont get as well, which is why I'm trying to be cautious about it.