Human eys and frame rate

Well I have heard a couple of people say the human eyes can't see more than 60fps. Don't know if they are just noobs or what.

But I have a 42inch screen and get 60fps with vsync on first person shooter games.

But lets say within one second I move my reticule completely across the screen then objects will be jumping by 0.7 of an inch because they only have that 60 frames to get across.

And you don't get this jitter effect in real life so the human eyes must be able too see much high than 60fps.

I think It all depends on the amount of world space that is being used.

Well I have heard a couple of people say the human eyes can't see more than 60fps. Don't know if they are just noobs or what.

But I have a 42inch screen and get 60fps with vsync on first person shooter games.

But lets say within one second I move my reticule completely across the screen then objects will be jumping by 0.7 of an inch because they only have that 60 frames to get across.

And you don't get this jitter effect in real life so the human eyes must be able too see much high than 60fps.

I think It all depends on the amount of world space that is being used.

Hydrazz

You don't see as much as you think you do. FPS only relates to the speed of animation. Higher FPS means it's faster. That doesn't mean you actually see all 60 frames every second.

I was watching this one show that elaborated on how eyes fuctioned. Basically, your eyes collect bits of light from various angles and then "splotch" those bits of light together until a full image is visualized by your brain. Happens really fast, so it seems like you're seeing a complete image instead of little spots all over the place.

Hope that made sense.

I dont think we can compare real life vision with FPS...lightleggy

Yea you can it would mean in something takes a second to pass your view point how smoothly you would see it according to how fast it is going.

So if our eyes were crap 60fps then every fast object or turn of our head would create jitter jumping.

[QUOTE="Hydrazz"]

Well I have heard a couple of people say the human eyes can't see more than 60fps. Don't know if they are just noobs or what.

But I have a 42inch screen and get 60fps with vsync on first person shooter games.

But lets say within one second I move my reticule completely across the screen then objects will be jumping by 0.7 of an inch because they only have that 60 frames to get across.

And you don't get this jitter effect in real life so the human eyes must be able too see much high than 60fps.

I think It all depends on the amount of world space that is being used.

MagnumPI

You don't see as much as you think you do. FPS only relates to the speed of animation. Higher FPS means it's faster. That doesn't mean you actually see all 60 frames every second.

This thread is worded really poorly, and I don't know exactly what you're talking about. I think you may be thinking of lag, but no a "jittering" the best answer I can think of is that nothing is moving .7 inches in a second at all. You're vision is moving, not the objexts you're looking at. You can look at two mountains that are miles away from eachother but veiw each one in perfect clarity in just a short moment. That or you just have really special eyes :0

20 frames. It can pick up 300 fps or more but we only process and see 20.

Imagine being able to notice that many, you'd be able to dodge a bullet. I'm sure if you were focused and blocked off some senses you would see more.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]I dont think we can compare real life vision with FPS...Hydrazz

Yea you can it would mean in something takes a second to pass your view point how smoothly you would see it according to how fast it is going.

So if our eyes were crap 60fps then every fast object or turn of our head would create jitter jumping.

This thread is worded really poorly, and I don't know exactly what you're talking about. I think you may be thinking of lag, but no a "jittering" the best answer I can think of is that nothing is moving .7 inches in a second at all. You're vision is moving, not the objexts you're looking at. You can look at two mountains that are miles away from eachother but veiw each one in perfect clarity in just a short moment. That or you just have really special eyes :0

Nintendevil

20 frames. It can pick up 300 fps or more but we only process and see 20.

Imagine being able to notice that many, you'd be able to dodge a bullet. I'm sure if you were focused and blocked off some senses you would see more.

Gaming-Planet

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]I dont think we can compare real life vision with FPS...Hydrazz

Yea you can it would mean in something takes a second to pass your view point how smoothly you would see it according to how fast it is going.

So if our eyes were crap 60fps then every fast object or turn of our head would create jitter jumping.

[QUOTE="Hydrazz"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]I dont think we can compare real life vision with FPS...Human-after-all

Yea you can it would mean in something takes a second to pass your view point how smoothly you would see it according to how fast it is going.

So if our eyes were crap 60fps then every fast object or turn of our head would create jitter jumping.

I just found out from scientific facts that we can see well over 120fps so no use arguing anymore.

Some gamers used to even say 30fps but it is best to deal with physical facts ask an eye doctor.

Well I knew anyway I just wanted to see how incompetent other were.

And the bigger the resolution and screen the more hz are needed to keep spacing down.

I might add a lot of animation looks ok at even 25fps thats because they use motion blur.

Without motion blur it looks crap.

Same with crysis they use motion blur when you turn fast to hide the spacing.

Thats why crysis still looks good at 30fps.

It's not really if we can see past it, it's more if we can notice it.

I just found out from scientific facts that we can see well over 120fps so no use arguing anymore.

Some gamers used to even say 30fps but it is best to deal with physical facts ask an eye doctor.

Well I knew anyway I just wanted to see how incompetent other were.

And the bigger the resolution and screen the more hz are needed to keep spacing down.

Hydrazz

The Blur and jumping of your screen is because of it's refresh rate... you can't see 60 fps... sorry BRAH...

Play a game and lock it at 20FPS, 30FPS and 60FPS and you'll see a difference. Make sure your PC is capable of producing a steady framerate though.