Humans create religion and its rules

If you're not trolling, take a look at it yourself. Dare I might say, read the Bible and see for yourself.hiphops_savior

I'm confused which one of you is the troll? I'm going to assume both.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you, sir.

LordQuorthon

ok

God gave the Jews the Torah and revealed himself through the prophet Abram, the one true God who has no image or idol. Only the Abrahamic religions are the real ones, only the God of Abraham is the real God.

It is a matter of faith and some men did make their own rules up to it, or twisted or misinterpeted certain things. But the God of Abraham is a loving and merciful God and He is the only real God.

One day all the nations will know this.

Thank you, sir.

LordQuorthon

My proof.

God gave the Jews the Torah and revealed himself through the prophet Abram, the one true God who has no image or idol. Only the Abrahamic religions are the real ones, only the God of Abraham is the real God.

It is a matter of faith and some men did make their own rules up to it, or twisted or misinterpeted certain things. But the God of Abraham is a loving and merciful God and He is the only real God.

One day all the nations will know this.

ShadowMoses900

It's cute that you believe that.

God gave the Jews the Torah and revealed himself through the prophet Abram, the one true God who has no image or idol. Only the Abrahamic religions are the real ones, only the God of Abraham is the real God.

It is a matter of faith and some men did make their own rules up to it, or twisted or misinterpeted certain things. But the God of Abraham is a loving and merciful God and He is the only real God.

One day all the nations will know this.

ShadowMoses900

You should tell that to all of the people that were supposedly killed and imposed to suffering on your "merciful god's" orders. And don't forget the people that live in poverty and disease ridden areas that die before the age of 20. See what they have to say about this "loving" creature.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

God gave the Jews the Torah and revealed himself through the prophet Abram, the one true God who has no image or idol. Only the Abrahamic religions are the real ones, only the God of Abraham is the real God.

It is a matter of faith and some men did make their own rules up to it, or twisted or misinterpeted certain things. But the God of Abraham is a loving and merciful God and He is the only real God.

One day all the nations will know this.

toast_burner

It's cute that you believe that.

He didn't say anything to offend you, no need to belittle him buddy.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

God gave the Jews the Torah and revealed himself through the prophet Abram, the one true God who has no image or idol. Only the Abrahamic religions are the real ones, only the God of Abraham is the real God.

It is a matter of faith and some men did make their own rules up to it, or twisted or misinterpeted certain things. But the God of Abraham is a loving and merciful God and He is the only real God.

One day all the nations will know this.

Vaultboy-101

You should tell that to all of the people that were supposedly killed and imposed to suffering on your "merciful god's" orders. And don't forget the people that live in poverty and disease ridden areas that die before the age of 20. See what they have to say about this "loving" creature.

God gave the Jews the Torah and revealed himself through the prophet Abram, the one true God who has no image or idol. Only the Abrahamic religions are the real ones, only the God of Abraham is the real God.

It is a matter of faith and some men did make their own rules up to it, or twisted or misinterpeted certain things. But the God of Abraham is a loving and merciful God and He is the only real God.

One day all the nations will know this.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="Vaultboy-101"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

God gave the Jews the Torah and revealed himself through the prophet Abram, the one true God who has no image or idol. Only the Abrahamic religions are the real ones, only the God of Abraham is the real God.

It is a matter of faith and some men did make their own rules up to it, or twisted or misinterpeted certain things. But the God of Abraham is a loving and merciful God and He is the only real God.

One day all the nations will know this.

brucewayne69

You should tell that to all of the people that were supposedly killed and imposed to suffering on your "merciful god's" orders. And don't forget the people that live in poverty and disease ridden areas that die before the age of 20. See what they have to say about this "loving" creature.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

God gave the Jews the Torah and revealed himself through the prophet Abram, the one true God who has no image or idol. Only the Abrahamic religions are the real ones, only the God of Abraham is the real God.

It is a matter of faith and some men did make their own rules up to it, or twisted or misinterpeted certain things. But the God of Abraham is a loving and merciful God and He is the only real God.

One day all the nations will know this.

Vaultboy-101

You should tell that to all of the people that were supposedly killed and imposed to suffering on your "merciful god's" orders. And don't forget the people that live in poverty and disease ridden areas that die before the age of 20. See what they have to say about this "loving" creature.

What are you talking about? What orders? Are you referring to the Crusades and other kinds of events? Those are due to human error and people can twist and bend things and use religion to hurt people.

Humans are given free will and they can use religion either for good (like Martin Luther King Jr, Mother Theresa etc...) or use it for evil (Jim Jones, Osama Bin Laden etc...). That doesn't mean what God wants.

We live in a broken world, the suffering of those people is due to human error, people hurt them, they hurt them with broken economics system that keeps them in poverty and do not provide sanitary living conditions.

This is the result of humans doing harm to other humans. However by the will of God we can change that and choose to improve those conditions and help others. They only live and die in those conditions because we allow it. If more people tried to make a difference we could change things.

God loves them, he does help them. He works through people and in other ways. You have to have faith.

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"][QUOTE="Vaultboy-101"]

You should tell that to all of the people that were supposedly killed and imposed to suffering on your "merciful god's" orders. And don't forget the people that live in poverty and disease ridden areas that die before the age of 20. See what they have to say about this "loving" creature.

Mcspanky37

Heaven is not a physcial, earthly place per se. It is a higher form of being/existing. It is like being pure energy, being a spirit. This is what your soul is, when we die your soul is judged, if you were a good person then your soul goes to God and you experinece eternal life as a spirit. If you were bad you don't go to hell, Jews do not believe in hell, you just don't exist. There is no eternal life for you, your soul has no merit, it becomes like dust.

This is what I personally believe. I also believe that all men will one day be resurrected and juged by God for their actions. All men will one day know the truth.

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"] It would sure suck to die and then go to Heaven. Wai-what?ShadowMoses900

Heaven is not a physcial, earthly place per se. It is a higher form of being/existing. It is like being pure energy, being a spirit. This is what your soul is, when we die your soul is judged, if you were a good person then your soul goes to God and you experinece eternal life as a spirit. If you were bad you don't go to hell, Jews do not believe in hell, you just don't exist. There is no eternal life for you, your soul has no merit, it becomes like dust.

This is what I personally believe. I also believe that all men will one day be resurrected and juged by God for their actions. All men will one day know the truth.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"] Pft, Why would I want live forever? Heaven sounds more like everlasting torture.Chicken453

Heaven is not a physcial, earthly place per se. It is a higher form of being/existing. It is like being pure energy, being a spirit. This is what your soul is, when we die your soul is judged, if you were a good person then your soul goes to God and you experinece eternal life as a spirit. If you were bad you don't go to hell, Jews do not believe in hell, you just don't exist. There is no eternal life for you, your soul has no merit, it becomes like dust.

This is what I personally believe. I also believe that all men will one day be resurrected and juged by God for their actions. All men will one day know the truth.

Too bad. I have a right to express my opinion on here, if it offends you go put a helmet on.

[QUOTE="Chicken453"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Heaven is not a physcial, earthly place per se. It is a higher form of being/existing. It is like being pure energy, being a spirit. This is what your soul is, when we die your soul is judged, if you were a good person then your soul goes to God and you experinece eternal life as a spirit. If you were bad you don't go to hell, Jews do not believe in hell, you just don't exist. There is no eternal life for you, your soul has no merit, it becomes like dust.

This is what I personally believe. I also believe that all men will one day be resurrected and juged by God for their actions. All men will one day know the truth.

ShadowMoses900

Too bad. I have a right to express my opinion on here, if it offends you go put a helmet on.

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"][QUOTE="brucewayne69"] It would sure suck to die and then go to Heaven. Wai-what?ShadowMoses900

Heaven is not a physcial, earthly place per se. It is a higher form of being/existing. It is like being pure energy, being a spirit. This is what your soul is, when we die your soul is judged, if you were a good person then your soul goes to God and you experinece eternal life as a spirit. If you were bad you don't go to hell, Jews do not believe in hell, you just don't exist. There is no eternal life for you, your soul has no merit, it becomes like dust.

This is what I personally believe. I also believe that all men will one day be resurrected and juged by God for their actions. All men will one day know the truth.

......um...yes?

Those are due to human error and people can twist and bend things and use religion to hurt people.ShadowMoses900

Hence the title of the thread

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

God gave the Jews the Torah and revealed himself through the prophet Abram, the one true God who has no image or idol. Only the Abrahamic religions are the real ones, only the God of Abraham is the real God.

It is a matter of faith and some men did make their own rules up to it, or twisted or misinterpeted certain things. But the God of Abraham is a loving and merciful God and He is the only real God.

One day all the nations will know this.

brucewayne69

It's cute that you believe that.

He didn't say anything to offend you, no need to belittle him buddy.

He believes/has faith that his "loving and merciful god" is going to punish us non-believes in eternal hell fire for all eternity... So yeah, his faith offends me...

[QUOTE="brucewayne69"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

It's cute that you believe that.

C2N2

He didn't say anything to offend you, no need to belittle him buddy.

He believes/has faith that his "loving and merciful god" is going to punish us non-believes in eternal hell fire for all eternity... So yeah, his faith offends me...

IIRC Jews don't believe in hell.

He's still being a complete dick though. If I were to start posting about how Judaism isn't real I'm sure he'd be offended yet he does the same thing to every other religion.

If you're not trolling, take a look at it yourself. Dare I might say, read the Bible and see for yourself.hiphops_savior

Reading the Bible, I assume you mean, will convince him otherwise?

No offense TC,but why do you create these kinds of threads?FMAB_GTO

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]No offense TC,but why do you create these kinds of threads?Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]No offense TC,but why do you create these kinds of threads?FMAB_GTO

Some men just want to watch the world burn

No offense TC,but why do you create these kinds of threads?FMAB_GTO

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]No offense TC,but why do you create these kinds of threads?GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]No offense TC,but why do you create these kinds of threads?FMAB_GTO

That kinda tells you what kind of troll he is, ie not better than I could be.

I fail to see the evidence for any God. Also it turns out that nature follows laws and not the whims of a supreme being.

http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/69119-could-science-one-day-explain-everything-including-the-non-existence-of-god/page__st__20

I find with Christianity such a possibility of men creating that set of doctrines beliefs, historical circumstances and various other things, and it being totally their imagination, unlikely. But thats just me.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"]No offense TC,but why do you create these kinds of threads?FMAB_GTO

Trolling sensitive subjects is the most effective b/c reactions are everything.

I find with Christianity such a possibility of men creating that set of doctrines beliefs, historical circumstances and various other things, and it being totally their imagination, unlikely. But thats just me.

Philokalia

How so? If you believe in Christianity then it would follow that every other religion out there should be a man made construct with no super natural validity.HoolaHoopMan

Because I cannot explain on a basis anything other than the divine, how Christianity emerged. Every other explanation fails because the facts simply contradict those, that and the entire witness of the church past it convinces me as well.

And no it does not follow every single religion is man made, some might have other origins. Not Godly, maybe demonic.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]How so? If you believe in Christianity then it would follow that every other religion out there should be a man made construct with no super natural validity.Philokalia

Because I cannot explain on a basis anything other than the divine, how Christianity emerged. Every other explanation fails because the facts simply contradict those, that and the entire witness of the church past it convinces me as well.

And no it does not follow every single religion is man made, some might have other origins. Not Godly, maybe demonic.

So you're actually saying that other religions have demonic origins? Care to list any examples? HoolaHoopMan

Quite possibly islam. But I'm not sure, I only leave that as a possibility.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]So you're actually saying that other religions have demonic origins? Care to list any examples? Philokalia

Quite possibly islam. But I'm not sure, I only leave that as a possibility.

[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]So you're actually saying that other religions have demonic origins? Care to list any examples? HoolaHoopMan

Quite possibly islam. But I'm not sure, I only leave that as a possibility.

Aisha was a witch!

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Um, look at his avatar and sig.

Brosephus_Rex

Trolling sensitive subjects is the most effective b/c reactions are everything.