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#1 delol
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Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

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Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

delol

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

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go you, hi five. I don't see why there should be liberal guilt, maybe its an american thing as here in the UK there is quite a lot of liberal groups
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go you, hi five. I don't see why there should be liberal guilt, maybe its an american thing as here in the UK there is quite a lot of liberal groupsbraindead_hero

dosent liberal mean free market capitalist in europe?

he means the american kind, where you slowly go into socialism. :)

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#5 skinnypete91
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Bully for you.
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[QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

H8sMikeMoore

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".
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#7 THE_DRUGGIE
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I'm a liberal and I'm proud!

Proud, I tell you! PROUD!

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#8 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

bman784

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and thats where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

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#9 rad_2xl
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Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

delol

I'm a guy.

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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

H8sMikeMoore

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and thats where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.
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#11 delol
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[QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

H8sMikeMoore

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

Hi there Smart answer I never cease to admire your verbal flexibility
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[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]go you, hi five. I don't see why there should be liberal guilt, maybe its an american thing as here in the UK there is quite a lot of liberal groupsH8sMikeMoore

No the labour party which currentlyis in the UK government is a socialist party

dosent liberal mean free market capitalist in europe?

he means the american kind, where you slowly go into socialism. :)

Well the labour party is a socialist party and is a traditional left wing party. Which stands for public ownership and welfare as well as a public health service all of which I agree with and generally find american liberals are still too right wing

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Anarcho Communism FTW

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#14 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

bman784

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and thats where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.

depends on the control.

if you're talking about FDA food safety, then yes.

or the laws that make it so you have to print ingridients and nutritional info.

not ALLLLLLLL regulations are bad, just some of the bigger ones.

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#15 AgileNate
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I guess you can say I fall more on the conservative side. I don't follow all of its ideals but I don't like what has become of Liberalism.
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#16 rad_2xl
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Anarcho Communism FTW

-Austin-

how about Neo-Satanic-Naturalism mixed with some Ultra-Consevative-Facsim?

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#17 RiSkyBiZ-13
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I don't think it's appropriate for people to classify themselves with one word. Part of my beliefs are liberal, some are the polar opposite.
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#18 delol
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I guess you can say I fall more on the conservative side. I don't follow all of its ideals but I don't like what has become of Liberalism.AgileNate
Can you be a little bit more specific ,please ,thank you
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#19 delol
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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

H8sMikeMoore

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and thats where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.

depends on the control.

if you're talking about FDA food safety, then yes.

or the laws that make it so you have to print ingridients and nutritional info.

not ALLLLLLLL regulations are bad, just some of the bigger ones.

The markets needs regulators to avoid monopolies and bad bussiness practices
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#20 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

delol

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and thats where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.

depends on the control.

if you're talking about FDA food safety, then yes.

or the laws that make it so you have to print ingridients and nutritional info.

not ALLLLLLLL regulations are bad, just some of the bigger ones.

The markets needs regulators to avoid monopolies and bad bussiness practices

not true at all, the internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. theres big guys, thats for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

what bad business practice? youll have to be more specific. most bad business happens to exploit corporate welfare in some form or another. in capitalism there is no corporate welfare.

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[QUOTE="AgileNate"]I guess you can say I fall more on the conservative side. I don't follow all of its ideals but I don't like what has become of Liberalism.delol
Can you be a little bit more specific ,please ,thank you

I rather not be specific because it would only lead to an un-stoppable mess of quotes.

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not true at all, the internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. theres big guys, thats for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

H8sMikeMoore

Wasn't the Standard Oil Trust of 1863 a monopoly?

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Socialism stops monopolies as the socialist governemt legislates against forming monopolies and subsidises up coming businesses
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#24 delol
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[QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

H8sMikeMoore

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and thats where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.

depends on the control.

if you're talking about FDA food safety, then yes.

or the laws that make it so you have to print ingridients and nutritional info.

not ALLLLLLLL regulations are bad, just some of the bigger ones.

The markets needs regulators to avoid monopolies and bad bussiness practices

not true at all, the internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. theres big guys, thats for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

what bad business practice? youll have to be more specific. most bad business happens to exploit corporate welfare in some form or another. in capitalism there is no corporate welfare.

In the other hand the oil distribution is a priceless argument in my favour Be kind enough to read oligopoly where i wrote monopoly ( Thank you ) The net will be little by little step by step swallows by the big corporations ( see the You tube case and the hostile try to Microsoft take over Yahoo )
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#25 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

THE_DRUGGIE

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and thats where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.

depends on the control.

if you're talking about FDA food safety, then yes.

or the laws that make it so you have to print ingridients and nutritional info.

not ALLLLLLLL regulations are bad, just some of the bigger ones.

The markets needs regulators to avoid monopolies and bad bussiness practices

not true at all, the internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. theres big guys, thats for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

Wasn't the Standard Oil Trust of 1863 a monopoly?

It may have been, im currently reading into it.

But regardless, government services are voted in monopolies.

Ive never not favored anti monopoly laws though.

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not true at all, the internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. theres big guys, thats for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

what bad business practice? youll have to be more specific. most bad business happens to exploit corporate welfare in some form or another. in capitalism there is no corporate welfare.

H8sMikeMoore
What about the gilded age? If I recall a complete lack of economic regulation lead to the formation of many monopolies, which caused a great deal of economic strife.
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#27 delol
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[QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="AgileNate"]I guess you can say I fall more on the conservative side. I don't follow all of its ideals but I don't like what has become of Liberalism.AgileNate

Can you be a little bit more specific ,please ,thank you

I rather not be specific because it would only lead to an un-stoppable mess of quotes.

[/QUOTE Please do after all we are here to discuss
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#28 H8sMikeMoore
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

delol

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and thats where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.

depends on the control.

if you're talking about FDA food safety, then yes.

or the laws that make it so you have to print ingridients and nutritional info.

not ALLLLLLLL regulations are bad, just some of the bigger ones.

The markets needs regulators to avoid monopolies and bad bussiness practices

not true at all, the internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. theres big guys, thats for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

what bad business practice? youll have to be more specific. most bad business happens to exploit corporate welfare in some form or another. in capitalism there is no corporate welfare.

In the other hand the oil distribution is a priceless argument in my favour Be kind enough to read oligopoly where i wrote monopoly ( Thank you ) The net will be little by little step by step swallows by the big corporations ( see the You tube case and the hostile try to Microsoft take over Yahoo )

the youtube case has nothing to do with monopolization.

Yahoo refused.

You lose.

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You see the reason I wasnt specific ;)
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#30 delol
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[QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

H8sMikeMoore

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and thats where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.

depends on the control.

if you're talking about FDA food safety, then yes.

or the laws that make it so you have to print ingridients and nutritional info.

not ALLLLLLLL regulations are bad, just some of the bigger ones.

The markets needs regulators to avoid monopolies and bad bussiness practices

not true at all, the internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. theres big guys, thats for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

what bad business practice? youll have to be more specific. most bad business happens to exploit corporate welfare in some form or another. in capitalism there is no corporate welfare.

In the other hand the oil distribution is a priceless argument in my favour Be kind enough to read oligopoly where i wrote monopoly ( Thank you ) The net will be little by little step by step swallows by the big corporations ( see the You tube case and the hostile try to Microsoft take over Yahoo )

the youtube case has nothing to do with monopolization.

Yahoo refused.

You lose.

Just wait a couple of years and then we will see who have loose or won The tendency in the net is for concentration I bet a beer whit you ( a BUD in honour of your country :D )
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#31 delol
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You see the reason I wasnt specific ;)AgileNate
camon man dont be so careful everyone here loves a good verbal fight
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

delol

liberal guilt is more in refrence (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and thats where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.

depends on the control.

if you're talking about FDA food safety, then yes.

or the laws that make it so you have to print ingridients and nutritional info.

not ALLLLLLLL regulations are bad, just some of the bigger ones.

The markets needs regulators to avoid monopolies and bad bussiness practices

not true at all, the internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. theres big guys, thats for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

what bad business practice? youll have to be more specific. most bad business happens to exploit corporate welfare in some form or another. in capitalism there is no corporate welfare.

In the other hand the oil distribution is a priceless argument in my favour Be kind enough to read oligopoly where i wrote monopoly ( Thank you ) The net will be little by little step by step swallows by the big corporations ( see the You tube case and the hostile try to Microsoft take over Yahoo )

the youtube case has nothing to do with monopolization.

Yahoo refused.

You lose.

Just wait a couple of years and then we will see who have loose or won The tendency in the net is for concentration I bet a beer whit you ( a BUD in honour of your country :D )

as usual i have a very hard time understanding your english.

even if corporations buy stuff, theres always going to be readily available alternatives. particularly within the open source community. which by the way you cant "buy"

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[QUOTE="braindead_hero"]go you, hi five. I don't see why there should be liberal guilt, maybe its an american thing as here in the UK there is quite a lot of liberal groupsH8sMikeMoore

dosent liberal mean free market capitalist in europe?

he means the american kind, where you slowly go into socialism. :)

Yay! I like that.

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[QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

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liberal guilt is more in reference (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and that's where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.

depends on the control.

if you're talking about FDA food safety, then yes.

or the laws that make it so you have to print ingredients and nutritional info.

not ALLLLLLLL regulations are bad, just some of the bigger ones.

The markets needs regulators to avoid monopolies and bad bussiness practices

not true at all, the Internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. there's big guys, that's for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

what bad business practice? you have to be more specific. most bad business happens to exploit corporate welfare in some form or another. in capitalism there is no corporate welfare.

In the other hand the oil distribution is a priceless argument in my favour Be kind enough to read oligopoly where i wrote monopoly ( Thank you ) The net will be little by little step by step swallows by the big corporations ( see the You tube case and the hostile try to Microsoft take over Yahoo )

the youtube case has nothing to do with monopolization.

Yahoo refused.

You lose.

Just wait a couple of years and then we will see who have loose or won The tendency in the net is for concentration I bet a beer whit you ( a BUD in honour of your country :D )

as usual i have a very hard time understanding your English.

even if corporations buy stuff, there's always going to be readily available alternatives. particularly within the open source community. which by the way you cant "buy"

[/QUOTE The open source community is unhappily a drop of water in the net bussiness ocean
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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="delol"]

Liberal guilt is a damn feeling to someone that states to be a liberal .Liberal cames from liberty so i urge my fellows liberals to quit guilt and assume pride

PS HE8michaelmoore i expect your inspired counterstrike8)

delol

liberal guilt is more in reference (at least i always thought it was) to white guilt, and liberals are usually the ones who fall for it.

im a classic liberal. its unfortunate that the "liberal" today has nothing to do with liberty and everything to do with massive government.

When it comes to issues of personal freedom liberals are in support. Economic issues are really the only areas where a liberal ideology promotes "big government".

and that's where I disagree with liberalism (american)

personal freedom and economic go hand in hand.

I would say that economic control allows for more personal freedom for the vast majority of a population.

depends on the control.

if you're talking about FDA food safety, then yes.

or the laws that make it so you have to print ingredients and nutritional info.

not ALLLLLLLL regulations are bad, just some of the bigger ones.

The markets needs regulators to avoid monopolies and bad bussiness practices

not true at all, the Internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. there's big guys, that's for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

what bad business practice? you have to be more specific. most bad business happens to exploit corporate welfare in some form or another. in capitalism there is no corporate welfare.

In the other hand the oil distribution is a priceless argument in my favour Be kind enough to read oligopoly where i wrote monopoly ( Thank you ) The net will be little by little step by step swallows by the big corporations ( see the You tube case and the hostile try to Microsoft take over Yahoo )

the youtube case has nothing to do with monopolization.

Yahoo refused.

You lose.

Just wait a couple of years and then we will see who have loose or won The tendency in the net is for concentration I bet a beer whit you ( a BUD in honour of your country :D )

as usual i have a very hard time understanding your English.

even if corporations buy stuff, there's always going to be readily available alternatives. particularly within the open source community. which by the way you cant "buy"

[/QUOTE The open source community is unhappily a drop of water in the net bussiness ocean

its growing, and it proves theres really no way to monopolize anything as long as that alternative is there. you cant actually make it go away.

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not true at all, the internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. theres big guys, thats for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

what bad business practice? youll have to be more specific. most bad business happens to exploit corporate welfare in some form or another. in capitalism there is no corporate welfare.

H8sMikeMoore

Not true. There used to only be one phone company. That was a monopoly. Currently most areas have a choice of only ONE cable company.

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[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

not true at all, the internet is a great example of how that argument falls flat. almost no regulations, no monopolies. theres big guys, thats for sure but its quite easy to not use them.

the only monopolies in the US are the government run ones. There has never been a monopoly formed due to capitalism, only socialism and socialization.

what bad business practice? youll have to be more specific. most bad business happens to exploit corporate welfare in some form or another. in capitalism there is no corporate welfare.

LJS9502_basic

Not true. There used to only be one phone company. That was a monopoly. Currently most areas have a choice of only ONE cable company.

I dont know much about the phone company. Anyway I retract my statement about no monopolies, but Ive always stood for anti monopoly laws anyway

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Big-government planning, spending, and taxing -- exactly what the nation and the stock market doesn't want to hear.
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Big-government planning, spending, and taxing -- exactly what the nation and the stock market doesn't want to hear.Mr_Manikin52

Bush spent more. Taxes...well considering the state of the economy and the cost of the war...I'd be more surprised that they don't go up no matter who wins.

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I am a hardcore meat loving gun shooting patriotic conservative American. And I'm proud of it.

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[QUOTE="Mr_Manikin52"]Big-government planning, spending, and taxing -- exactly what the nation and the stock market doesn't want to hear.LJS9502_basic

Bush spent more. Taxes...well considering the state of the economy and the cost of the war...I'd be more surprised that they don't go up no matter who wins.

they pretty much have to at this point. but we could always bring home troops from places that arent combat zones such as the UK, Germany and Japan. that might save a buck or two.

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[QUOTE="Mr_Manikin52"]Big-government planning, spending, and taxing -- exactly what the nation and the stock market doesn't want to hear.LJS9502_basic

Bush spent more. Taxes...well considering the state of the economy and the cost of the war...I'd be more surprised that they don't go up no matter who wins.

Well.. let's end the two party system and get Bob Barr to win.

Bush is NOT a true conservative.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Manikin52"]Big-government planning, spending, and taxing -- exactly what the nation and the stock market doesn't want to hear.Mr_Manikin52

Bush spent more. Taxes...well considering the state of the economy and the cost of the war...I'd be more surprised that they don't go up no matter who wins.

Well.. let's end the two party system and get Bob Barr to win.

Bush is NOT a true conservative.

yeah definitely

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I just want to point out that socialism creates one big monopoly, its called the government.

No one wants that.

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#46 delol
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[QUOTE="Mr_Manikin52"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Manikin52"]Big-government planning, spending, and taxing -- exactly what the nation and the stock market doesn't want to hear.H8sMikeMoore

Bush spent more. Taxes...well considering the state of the economy and the cost of the war...I'd be more surprised that they don't go up no matter who wins.

Well.. let's end the two party system and get Bob Barr to win.

Bush is NOT a true conservative.

I have to agree (Good Lord ) whit you but the fact is that conservatives support him during the main and crucial times of his administration .So they have a huge MORAL responsibility

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Well.. let's end the two party system and get Bob Barr to win.

Bush is NOT a true conservative.

Mr_Manikin52
The two party system is not going to end. The parties may evolve over time...but they will stay.
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[QUOTE="Mr_Manikin52"]

Well.. let's end the two party system and get Bob Barr to win.

Bush is NOT a true conservative.

LJS9502_basic
The two party system is not going to end. The parties may evolve over time...but they will stay.

word...there is almost no chance of america bucking the 2-party system...
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#49 delol
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[QUOTE="Mr_Manikin52"]

Well.. let's end the two party system and get Bob Barr to win.

Bush is NOT a true conservative.

LJS9502_basic
The two party system is not going to end. The parties may evolve over time...but they will stay.[/QUOTE For the sake of democracy is urgent more than two main parties in the US Bipartidarism worked well during decades but does not seems to fit to the challenges of this new era we are going to enter (IMHO )
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Communist.