I didn't know dinosaurs were on Noahs Ark........

2 things:

1) Theres talk in Kentucky that they want to build a life size replica of Noahs Ark. they want to use tax payers money to pay for some of it. Do you believe this violates the seperation of church and state law?

2)I had no idea that according to.......something, Noahs Ark had Dinosaurs on it. Thats seems....a little crazy doesn't it. I mean don't they have carbon dates for things that are older than that? Also when I was a child they never showed dinosaurs in the cartoons of Noahs Ark or never told us that in sunday school.

2 things:

1) Theres talk in Kentucky that they want to build a life size replica of Noahs Ark. they want to use tax payers money to pay for some of it. Do you believe this violates the seperation of church and state law?

2)I had no idea that according to.......something, Noahs Ark had Dinosaurs on it. Thats seems....a little crazy doesn't it. I mean don't they have carbon dates for things that are older than that? Also when I was a child they never showed dinosaurs in the cartoons of Noahs Ark or never told us that in sunday school.

DudeNtheRoom

1, I think that is a terrible use for tax payer money

2.Never of heard that part and I'm a Christian

Yeah, and so was the giant spagghetti monster, his family could not be saved however, as they were unclean.

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]

2 things:

1) Theres talk in Kentucky that they want to build a life size replica of Noahs Ark. they want to use tax payers money to pay for some of it. Do you believe this violates the seperation of church and state law?

2)I had no idea that according to.......something, Noahs Ark had Dinosaurs on it. Thats seems....a little crazy doesn't it. I mean don't they have carbon dates for things that are older than that? Also when I was a child they never showed dinosaurs in the cartoons of Noahs Ark or never told us that in sunday school.

__Chris__

1, I think that is a terrible use for tax payer money

2.Never of heard that part and I'm a Christian

Heres where I saw that they said dinosaurs were on Noahs Ark. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40445249/ns/us_news-life/

They built the dinosaur part in something called "The Creation Museum". I wouldn't think that they would just make up their own stories without consulting some sort of christianity belief.

a lot of things were on that boat...

2 things:

1) Theres talk in Kentucky that they want to build a life size replica of Noahs Ark. they want to use tax payers money to pay for some of it. Do you believe this violates the seperation of church and state law?

DudeNtheRoom

That's sort of like asking if murder violates ones right to life.

It's unconstitutional, illegal, and should be stopped.

a lot of things were on that boat...

Boostinsane

2 things:

1) Theres talk in Kentucky that they want to build a life size replica of Noahs Ark. they want to use tax payers money to pay for some of it. Do you believe this violates the seperation of church and state law?

2)I had no idea that according to.......something, Noahs Ark had Dinosaurs on it. Thats seems....a little crazy doesn't it. I mean don't they have carbon dates for things that are older than that? Also when I was a child they never showed dinosaurs in the cartoons of Noahs Ark or never told us that in sunday school.

DudeNtheRoom

If I lived in KY I'd probably leave. First of all, you're using taxpayer money to pay for it. Secondly, dinosaurs. I just don't have anything to say about that. I'm offended by that and I'm not even christian anymore.

No christians, you can't have it both ways. Dinosaurs did not exist in god's perfect world.

I laughed pretty hard when I heard about that. I mean okay, religion stretches the boundaries and does scientifically impossible things like humans having babies without having sex. That's a "miracle". But dinosaurs? come on.XilePrincess

According to some theorists there were actually two arks. One day Noah found Michael Crichton trapped in amber, then extracted dino DNA and ship building material from it. Proud of his ambitious work, he called it Jurassic Ark - the largest floating theme park ever made!

Of course, everyone knows that humans and dinosaurs don't mix. The T-Rex grew impatient while waiting in line for the bathroom, and wrecked all the portaloos on board. In the end, Noah kick starts the largest on-water-hissy-fit ever seen. (Spielberg didn't have the cgi back in '93 to recreate tsunami-like tremors, and opted for a glass of water instead.)

In the ensuing panic, Jurassic Ark hit an iceberg (which turned out to be Larry King's beard), and all the dinos escaped. Five years later, Noah went back to the drawing board. Hence, why he laid down such strict boarding rules, and reminded folks it was HIS boat.

;) /tongue in cheek comment.

I dont think Noah lived in the time of dinosaurs

If I lived in KY I'd probably leave. First of all, you're using taxpayer money to pay for it. Secondly, dinosaurs. I just don't have anything to say about that. I'm offended by that and I'm not even christian anymore.

No christians, you can't have it both ways. Dinosaurs did not exist in god's perfect world.

starfox15

wow talk about overreacting, they use some tax money and suddenly everyones butthurt

They're dinosaurs, they can do whatever the **** they want.

What a waste of taxpayers' money.

There is no such thing as dinosaurs.

1. Its shameless. I am quite glad I am not a US taxpayer.
2. According to Young Earth Creationists, the Earth was made by God no more than 10,000 years ago. And since dinosaur fossils exist, they have to come up with a silly justification for their existence. Some say they are the work of the devil, others just put them on Noah's ark along with the other 1,000,000+ species of animals that would have existed during Noah's time.

Look up Utanapishtim. He was the guy in Mesopotamian mythology whom every Middle Eastern flood myth was based off of (and almost everyone during the time leading up to Jesus' birth, had their own flood myth). And that's just the thing... Noah's ark is just a myth, it carries with it a moral tale that uses parabolic exaggeration to make the story more memorable and more effective at delivering its message.

Most religious people don't understand that these stories aren't literal accounts of history. They might contain pieces of history, but they are altered to the point where they can't be relied upon as accurate. They are figurative tales used to develop a sense of humility and morality. Nothing else. They carry FAR more value when taken figuratively. If Buddhism has taught me anything, its that mythological stories are for the benefit of helping the layman understand the complex philosophy and rituals of religious practice. They were never meant to be literal accounts of actual events... merely a creative interpretation of actual events that allow greater and more efficacious messages to be transmitted.

There is no such thing as dinosaurs.

shoot-first

:o

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

If I lived in KY I'd probably leave. First of all, you're using taxpayer money to pay for it. Secondly, dinosaurs. I just don't have anything to say about that. I'm offended by that and I'm not even christian anymore.

No christians, you can't have it both ways. Dinosaurs did not exist in god's perfect world.

Harisemo

wow talk about overreacting, they use some tax money and suddenly everyones butthurt

You don't understand the concept of seperation of church and state do you?

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

If I lived in KY I'd probably leave. First of all, you're using taxpayer money to pay for it. Secondly, dinosaurs. I just don't have anything to say about that. I'm offended by that and I'm not even christian anymore.

No christians, you can't have it both ways. Dinosaurs did not exist in god's perfect world.

Harisemo

wow talk about overreacting, they use some tax money and suddenly everyones butthurt

I'm guessing mummy and daddy pays for whatever their little pumpkin wants.

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

If I lived in KY I'd probably leave. First of all, you're using taxpayer money to pay for it. Secondly, dinosaurs. I just don't have anything to say about that. I'm offended by that and I'm not even christian anymore.

No christians, you can't have it both ways. Dinosaurs did not exist in god's perfect world.

worlock77

wow talk about overreacting, they use some tax money and suddenly everyones butthurt

You don't understand the concept of seperation of church and state do you?

If it is Kentucky tax payer money then it is legal unless there is a law in Kentucky that specifically does not allow it. The first amendment specifically states that Congress can not pass laws respecting the establishment of religion. It doesn't say anything at all about states. But, if it is federal money then it might be a problem.

They're weren't; that's how they died.

"Most religious people don't understand that these stories aren't literal accounts of history."

I like how you claim that 'religous people' can't understand, and then claim that you can in the same breath.

As for the question of church and state, just call it a community center and boom, big s***storm and you get money for being a manipulative bulls***ter.

1. Its shameless. I am quite glad I am not a US taxpayer.
2. According to Young Earth Creationists, the Earth was made by God no more than 10,000 years ago. And since dinosaur fossils exist, they have to come up with a silly justification for their existence. Some say they are the work of the devil, others just put them on Noah's ark along with the other 1,000,000+ species of animals that would have existed during Noah's time.

Look up Utanapishtim. He was the guy in Mesopotamian mythology whom every Middle Eastern flood myth was based off of (and almost everyone during the time leading up to Jesus' birth, had their own flood myth). And that's just the thing... Noah's ark is just a myth, it carries with it a moral tale that uses parabolic exaggeration to make the story more memorable and more effective at delivering its message.

Most religious people don't understand that these stories aren't literal accounts of history. They might contain pieces of history, but they are altered to the point where they can't be relied upon as accurate. They are figurative tales used to develop a sense of humility and morality. Nothing else. They carry FAR more value when taken figuratively. If Buddhism has taught me anything, its that mythological stories are for the benefit of helping the layman understand the complex philosophy and rituals of religious practice. They were never meant to be literal accounts of actual events... merely a creative interpretation of actual events that allow greater and more efficacious messages to be transmitted.

foxhound_fox

The Bible is founded by God, and yet you say that the flood is supposed to be a metaphor? Must I remind you that he is Omnipotent? What you are saying is kinda like saying Michael Johnson drew lines for a track but he couldnt run lap times, which doesnt make sense.

If you are a fundamentalist, and believe the world is only 6000 years old than logically dinosaurs must have been on Noah's ark. However the world is older than 6000 years old, and there is no evidence of a global flood at any point in history (a flood of that magnitude may not even be possible, it was probably a localized flood in a high populated area for the time) So therefore, there were not dinosaurs on any such ark. But don't listen to me, science, history and philosophy are over-rated anyways.ferrari2001

I thought dinosaur bones were placed in the earth by Satan to fool us into betraying god? SAGE_OF_FIRE

If you are a fundamentalist, and believe the world is only 6000 years old than logically dinosaurs must have been on Noah's ark. However the world is older than 6000 years old, and there is no evidence of a global flood at any point in history (a flood of that magnitude may not even be possible, it was probably a localized flood in a high populated area for the time) So therefore, there were not dinosaurs on any such ark. But don't listen to me, science, history and philosophy are over-rated anyways.ferrari2001

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2000/04/03/dinosaurs-on-noahs-arkdave123321

Oh get over it. Some of you guys keep mentioning the "tax payers" money. Well considering this park will be a great tourist attraction, I don't see what's the problem of using the "tax payers" money. Get over yourself.GazaAli

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]If you are a fundamentalist, and believe the world is only 6000 years old than logically dinosaurs must have been on Noah's ark. However the world is older than 6000 years old, and there is no evidence of a global flood at any point in history (a flood of that magnitude may not even be possible, it was probably a localized flood in a high populated area for the time) So therefore, there were not dinosaurs on any such ark. But don't listen to me, science, history and philosophy are over-rated anyways.gaming25

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]Oh get over it. Some of you guys keep mentioning the "tax payers" money. Well considering this park will be a great tourist attraction, I don't see what's the problem of using the "tax payers" money. Get over yourself.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

The Bible is founded by God, and yet you say that the flood is supposed to be a metaphor? Must I remind you that he is Omnipotent? What you are saying is kinda like saying Michael Johnson drew lines for a track but he couldnt run lap times, which doesnt make sense.

gaming25

[QUOTE="dave123321"]http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2000/04/03/dinosaurs-on-noahs-arkWAJ

2 things:

1) Theres talk in Kentucky that they want to build a life size replica of Noahs Ark. they want to use tax payers money to pay for some of it. Do you believe this violates the seperation of church and state law?

2)I had no idea that according to.......something, Noahs Ark had Dinosaurs on it. Thats seems....a little crazy doesn't it. I mean don't they have carbon dates for things that are older than that? Also when I was a child they never showed dinosaurs in the cartoons of Noahs Ark or never told us that in sunday school.

DudeNtheRoom

It should be ilegal as it would be government taxing people to impose one belief.

Watch religulous, he goes into this musem where they teach how people rode dinossaurs 10thousand years ago because thats how old, according to them, the earth is. Should probably be illegal to teach that to children.

Its just receiving tax support like any potentially successful theme park/attraction.

They are supporting it because people would come, and bring in much needed tourist dollars.

I wish they also support the theme park that was Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom, and get it reopened.

Oh get over it. Some of you guys keep mentioning the "tax payers" money. Well considering this park will be a great tourist attraction, I don't see what's the problem of using the "tax payers" money. Get over yourself.GazaAli

The developers are seeking state tax incentives under the Kentucky Tourism Development Act, which allows up to 25 percent of the cost of a project to be recovered, Courier-Journal said.Atheist groups and church-state separation advocates noted that state involvement in the project may not appear to be right, but it does appear to be legal as state tax breaks are used to support tourism projects.

Thank you. There is nothing wrong with this getting tax payer money if the state has a law in place to encourage tourist attractions. I think this thing would be sweet to see anyway.

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]If you are a fundamentalist, and believe the world is only 6000 years old than logically dinosaurs must have been on Noah's ark. However the world is older than 6000 years old, and there is no evidence of a global flood at any point in history (a flood of that magnitude may not even be possible, it was probably a localized flood in a high populated area for the time) So therefore, there were not dinosaurs on any such ark. But don't listen to me, science, history and philosophy are over-rated anyways.WAJ

Because you werent looking for it.

"as a geologist i've never come across any"

You should know that you are not going to find everything pertaining to the explanations of past events in nature.

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

The Bible is founded by God, and yet you say that the flood is supposed to be a metaphor? Must I remind you that he is Omnipotent? What you are saying is kinda like saying Michael Johnson drew lines for a track but he couldnt run lap times, which doesnt make sense.

foxhound_fox

"When the observable evidence contradicts the Biblical accounts... then it refutes them as history."

Actually it doesnt contridict Biblical accounts. It has to depend on what you interpret history and how you interpret it.

"Can you tell me how a literal account of history where a guy took 1,000,000+ species of animals onto a wooden ark and survives a 40-day flood carries more value to modern society than the figurative moral message the story carries about redemption and sacrifice?"

You are putting words in my mouth. I never said which part was more important.

[QUOTE="WAJ"][QUOTE="gaming25"] "a flood of that magnitude may not even be possible" I think that you are forgetting that God created it. "it was probably a localized flood in a high populated area for the time" You assume that it is smaller for no type of reason other than you thinking it couldnt have happened. "there is no evidence of a global flood at any point in history" There is evidence of such an event, its about whether or not you believed that it occured.gaming25

Because you werent looking for it.

"as a geologist i've never come across any"

You should know that you are not going to find everything pertaining to the explanations of past events in nature.