i don't like modern art

people these days can just throw whatever crap together and call it modern art. and then for art class, we have to go through and try and find the sculptors/authors intentions, and feelings, and symbolisms. if they just threw it together randomly, how can it have any symbolism or anything.

examples:

and 

what the crap?

these aren't very good examples, but still do you get my point? its just random junk, not art. 

First one=random inkblot test. Symbolism? Check.

Second one=people are too in love with modern conveniences. Symbolism? Checkomundo. 

I like some modern art, but most of it I find, well, completely asinine.

Honest to fuzzy pink unicorn, in the Philadelphia Museum of Art, there is a canvas painted purple with a black line painted down the middle of it, that's it, and it's hanging in a museum.

I like some modern art, but most of it I find, well, completely asinine.

Honest to fuzzy pink unicorn, in the Philadelphia Museum of Art, there is a canvas painted purple with a black line painted down the middle of it, that's it, and it's hanging in a museum.

dhyce

Heh, went I went to Madrid, in one of the museums, there was a painting in which the top 3/4s of it was purple, and the bottom 1/4 was green.

I don't know if Salvador Dali paintings are modern art.. but if they are then I guess I like modern art.

this is a pretty stupid thread, in my opinion. how can something have meaning, if the artist didn't intend for it to have a meaning?

read the surrealist manifesto. 

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I like some modern art, but most of it I find, well, completely asinine.

Honest to fuzzy pink unicorn, in the Philadelphia Museum of Art, there is a canvas painted purple with a black line painted down the middle of it, that's it, and it's hanging in a museum.

Dethshoot

Heh, went I went to Madrid, in one of the museums, there was a painting in which the top 3/4s of it was purple, and the bottom 1/4 was green.

I don't know if Salvador Dali paintings are modern art.. but if they are then I guess I like modern art.

modern art is any art produced from the late 1800's until postmodernism in the 1970's. this thread is making an absurd generalization.

I could vomit and put ear wax, cause yellow's a pretty color, on a piece of paper and call it art. Anybody can do it and make up some lame meaning behind it. Like "oh yah the ear wax represents the struggle"...modern art sucksesb617

AMEN

modern art is crap mainly because it usually requires near to little skillfenwickhotmail

1. this is a self portrait by chuck close:

2. it is modern art.

3. you don't know anything about art. 

[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"]modern art is crap mainly because it usually requires near to little skillmaximusmmii

1. this is a self portrait by chuck close:

2. it is modern art.

3. you don't know anything about art.

wow, i knew this would happen eventually. i don't know speicaically what it's called(whatever genre it is of art thats just random and stupid and takes no skill), modern art was my best way of describing it because these days you can put anything together and call it modern art. 

sorry if to offend you the post did. 

this is a pretty stupid thread, in my opinion. how can something have meaning, if the artist didn't intend for it to have a meaning?

maximusmmii

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this is a pretty stupid thread, in my opinion. how can something have meaning, if the artist didn't intend for it to have a meaning?

blooddemon666

Using caps is considered shouting, please avoid it.

And the guy's got a point, if the artist want something to be ..sludge, then it will be sludge- 

behold bastard son
I am the evil one
no glory to be reached
no more thy slavery
the passion I besieged
spawn terror
smash thy will
ye pale dominion fades away my
will dominates

and watch my star arise
burning up the earth
sun - the eye of gods
threw into the space
watch ye moon eclipse
fallinf from thy grace
watch all nations cry
all feared ov his name
praise the flame!
watch angels falling from the skies
praise the flame!
I killed thy god
my will is done!
thou art lord

rise me! rise me high!
lead thru the gates ov sun
rise me! rise me high!
where angels do not dare to fly
invite to feast ov gods
and let me drift away
leave flames ov infamy
and watch me kiss the stars

Art is art. In whatever shape or form.  

Art is deeper than that, there's an underlying meaning behind every piece of art. You don't have to love art, just trying to get a feel of what the artist is trying to convey is enough. Art can be expressed through many forms, it has no boundaries. A digital picture for e.g cannot be compared to say a painted portrait of the person. The digital picture captures that one instant of time whilst the painting captures the emotion and many other aspects at an interval of time.

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this is a pretty stupid thread, in my opinion. how can something have meaning, if the artist didn't intend for it to have a meaning?

Vfanek

Using caps is considered shouting, please avoid it.

And the guy's got a point, if the artist want something to be ..sludge, then it will be sludge-

i'm not sure that that was the point i was trying to make. the surrealists, in the 1920's, intentionally tried to make art that didn't make sense. they attempted to create art using only the subconscious mind. one of their methods was to represent their dreams into their work. the result was some of the most "meaningful" art ever created. a person cannot create art that is trully random, because even when you are not consciously making decisions, you are making them subsconsciously--in which case your mind is free to express what you are trully feeling, without the censorship of rational thought. this idea can be applied to nearly every genre of art. 

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"]

this is a pretty stupid thread, in my opinion. how can something have meaning, if the artist didn't intend for it to have a meaning?

maximusmmii

Using caps is considered shouting, please avoid it.

And the guy's got a point, if the artist want something to be ..sludge, then it will be sludge-

i'm not sure that that was the point i was trying to make. the surrealists, in the 1920's, intentionally tried to make art that didn't make sense. they attempted to create art using only the subconscious mind. one of their methods was to represent their dreams into their work. the result was some of the most "meaningful" art ever created. a person cannot create art that is trully random, because even when you are not consciously making decisions, you are making them subsconsciously--in which case your mind is free to express what you are trully feeling, without the censorship of rational thought. this idea can be applied to nearly every genre of art.

ah, well you can't deny that by reading your former reply it's hard to.. get all that. But I see what you're saiyng, and I agree. There is however.. lesser forms. Such as the first picture the OT posted. I don't believe there's much thuoght that has gone into that one, more like "I will try to make something random" and that's what the artist did. 

[QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="blooddemon666"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"]

this is a pretty stupid thread, in my opinion. how can something have meaning, if the artist didn't intend for it to have a meaning?

Vfanek

Using caps is considered shouting, please avoid it.

And the guy's got a point, if the artist want something to be ..sludge, then it will be sludge-

i'm not sure that that was the point i was trying to make. the surrealists, in the 1920's, intentionally tried to make art that didn't make sense. they attempted to create art using only the subconscious mind. one of their methods was to represent their dreams into their work. the result was some of the most "meaningful" art ever created. a person cannot create art that is trully random, because even when you are not consciously making decisions, you are making them subsconsciously--in which case your mind is free to express what you are trully feeling, without the censorship of rational thought. this idea can be applied to nearly every genre of art.

ah, well you can't deny that by reading your former reply it's hard to.. get all that. But I see what you're saiyng, and I agree. There is however.. lesser forms. Such as the first picture the OT posted. I don't believe there's much thuoght that has gone into that one, more like "I will try to make something random" and that's what the artist did.

the person that quoted me, left out the part of my post with the link do a wikipedia article about the surrealist manifesto.  

Art is Art in my opinion.

the person that quoted me, left out the part of my post with the link do a wikipedia article about the surrealist manifesto.

maximusmmii

I don't like most modern art, but there are still some pieces that I like too. You really have to look at each piece of art seperately. One can't simply generalize that "modern art is the best type of art" 

There are different ways to look at art.

The second one is strange though

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the person that quoted me, left out the part of my post with the link do a wikipedia article about the surrealist manifesto.

blooddemon666

I don't like most modern art, but there are still some pieces that I like too. You really have to look at each piece of art seperately. One can't simply generalize that "modern art is the best type of art"

um... where in this thread have i, or anyone, said that "modern art is the best type of art." it seems that nearly everyone has been making just the opposite generalization. and you are absolutely right when you say that you have to look at each piece of art separately. it was extremely ignorant for the threadmaker to make a sweeping generalization about an enormous class of art that includes more styles than he has heard of. it is ok to criticize individual works or even small bodies of work (as long as your criticism is supported by evidence,) but when the threadmaker said he did not like "modern art," i couldn't help but laugh since not only did he not know what "modern art" was, but he probably had not seen 99.99% of "modern art."  

What about obamajesus?

Complete with neon halo...

Is this art?

Or, is it an obamanation? :P 

Most of it is pretentious bulls**t that hipsters love in an attempt to be more "sophisticated".....

I prefer the older artists who actually put EFFORT into their work rather than something a 2 year old could make.....

What about obamajesus?

Complete with neon halo...

Is this art?

Or, is it an obamanation? :P 

Rusteater

[QUOTE="Rusteater"]

What about obamajesus?

Complete with neon halo...

Is this art?

Or, is it an obamanation? :P

204259106jk

It might have the sole purpose of entertainment. In other words, a joke. 

[QUOTE="Rusteater"]

What about obamajesus?

Complete with neon halo...

Is this art?

Or, is it an obamanation? :P

204259106jk

who told you that art needs to be created with some sort of intended meaning in order for it to have meaning? meaning isn't always intended, and the meaning that people see in a work is rarely the intended meaning. 

This is art, but it's not quality art. An art critic would be able to appraise the work.

[QUOTE="204259106jk"][QUOTE="Rusteater"]

What about obamajesus?

Complete with neon halo...

Is this art?

Or, is it an obamanation? :P

Vfanek

It might have the sole purpose of entertainment. In other words, a joke.

this urinal is a sculpture called fountain by marcel duchamp. it is a joke and a work of art at the same time. duchamp submitted it to an art exhibit where it was rejected because the committee did not consider it art. does it have meaning? yes. the work is making fun of art and questioning the conventions of society and the art world. it asks the question: what is art and what isn't?     

This is art, but it's not quality art. An art critic would be able to appraise the work.

204259106jk

are you responding to me? 

"an art critic would be able to appraise the work" why don't you see how much an art critic would be able to appraise the persistence of memory by salvador dali?  

[QUOTE="204259106jk"][QUOTE="Rusteater"]

What about obamajesus?

Complete with neon halo...

Is this art?

Or, is it an obamanation? :P

maximusmmii

who told you that art needs to be created with some sort of intended meaning in order for it to have meaning? meaning isn't always intended, and the meaning that people see in a work is rarely the intended meaning.

who told you that art needs to be created with some sort of intended meaning in order for it to have meaning? meaning isn't always intended, and the meaning that people see in a work is rarely the intended meaning.maximusmmii

So how can you appraise whether something is art or not?

And what I should've said was that all art is open to interpretation by anybody. I agree with what you said that art doesn't always have an intended meaning.