I don't want my friend to go to jail, help.

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#1 DazedDarkness
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Ok this is a serious topic. My friend is 16 years old and is in Highschool and he has this girl who likes him and she's 13 and still in middle shcool. What I want to know is should he stop dating her? I told him to stp dating here, he's also is going on 17 while the girl has just turned 13 not to long ago. I'm trying to tell him to stop it because he can potentially get caught and go to jail for it. The girl has consented with him yes, and she seems mature for her age but I'm scared for him. She also has this snarky attitude and I told him to leave her alone because I heard she was big trouble. He seems struck and won't listen to a word I say.

Please, what can I tell him for he can stop?

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Some people have to learn the hard way. Teens in particular.
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#3 raven_squad
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And the girls parents know of their relationship?
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#4 tokra213
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He isn't 18 so he can't get in trouble for doing anything until then.

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#5 DazedDarkness
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And the girls parents know of their relationship? raven_squad
No, they don't. That's the problem, Isn't statutory like 3 years? That's 3 years, he can go down. I know it's 3 years here in this state, and it doesn't matter if your 18 or older you can't be 3 years older than the person your dating until you are both 18+
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#6 69ANT69
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He isn't 18 so he can't get in trouble for doing anything until then.

tokra213
Yeah, just let them get on with it. He will soon realize I'm sure.
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The law doesn't take into account the idiocy of idiots. Tell him what'll happen, if he ignores you then he'll have to learn the hard way.
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#8 markop2003
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The age differance is under 5 years so atleast in the UK so if they had sex he wouldn't be a pedo and crimes would be treated like the age difference didn't exist
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#9 raven_squad
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Try to hook your friend up with a girl his age maybe... get him away from her.... If the parents don't know, and find out after they've already... *cough* done it, hes pretty well screwed.
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The age differance is under 5 years so atleast in the UK so if they had sex he wouldn't be a pedo and crimes would be treated like the age difference didn't existmarkop2003
Not the same in the US.
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#11 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"]And the girls parents know of their relationship? DazedDarkness
No, they don't.

Then you should persuade him to tell them. That is something that could come back and bite him in the ass....Assuming it hasn't already.
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#12 ethanpaige
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when I was 16 I was with a girl who was 13, and we stayed together for a good 2 and a half years... but she turned 14 before I turned 17 so it was more of a 2 and a half year difference. He really can't get into any trouble unless the girl does something... in which case it would be in his best interest not to break up with her

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#13 Ontain
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this sounds like it can go wrong really fast. it's illegal and he would become a registered sex offender. heck besides the fact that her parents might find out and report him, if that girl gets upset enough (like if they break up badly) she could report it herself out of spite.
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cut his grass, start flirting with her and make a move. Take her for yourself. That will teach him..
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Gather a few friends secretly, invite this guy to some place and tell him it's a surprise party. And then when he opens the door he'll be greeted by a big banner that says "INTERVENTION" in capital letters. Then you can take turns giving him arguments about how he should wait with this relationship, if they really care for each other then they will be destined to get back together in 5 years. Also, finish it off with a few episodes of "To Catch A Predator" with Chris Hansen.
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"]And the girls parents know of their relationship? DazedDarkness
No, they don't. That's the problem, Isn't statutory like 3 years? That's 3 years, he can go down. I know it's 3 years here in this state, and it doesn't matter if your 18 or older you can't be 3 years older than the person your dating until you are both 18+

What Country are you in? If you are in Canada, he will go to jail for it, for a long, long time too.

Get your friend some counselling, the difference between 16 and 13 is HUGE physiologically, he is likely a pedophile.

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#17 Solid_Snake325
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Dude don't worry about it, it's not that bad.
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#18 DazedDarkness
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[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]And the girls parents know of their relationship? Andrew_Xavier
No, they don't. That's the problem, Isn't statutory like 3 years? That's 3 years, he can go down. I know it's 3 years here in this state, and it doesn't matter if your 18 or older you can't be 3 years older than the person your dating until you are both 18+

What Country are you in? If you are in Canada, he will go to jail for it, for a long, long time too.

No I'm in America. But my State will hang his up(not actually hang him, do time) for that. I live in Baltimore and someone got it before because the parents got the guy put in jail.
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I'd write that friend off seriously. And let him suffer the consequences.

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#20 Ontain
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He isn't 18 so he can't get in trouble for doing anything until then.

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not true http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/xxfactor/archive/2009/03/20/when-teen-sex-breaks-the-law.aspx
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[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]And the girls parents know of their relationship? Andrew_Xavier

No, they don't. That's the problem, Isn't statutory like 3 years? That's 3 years, he can go down. I know it's 3 years here in this state, and it doesn't matter if your 18 or older you can't be 3 years older than the person your dating until you are both 18+

What Country are you in? If you are in Canada, he will go to jail for it, for a long, long time too.

Get your friend some counselling, the difference between 16 and 13 is HUGE physiologically, he is likely a pedophile.

Haha I remember you. You're the guy who thinks everyone's a pedophile.
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#23 LexLas
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He isn't 18 so he can't get in trouble for doing anything until then.

tokra213
Correct, and if they were dating from before it should not be a problem unless she makes it a problem.
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[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="DazedDarkness"] No, they don't. That's the problem, Isn't statutory like 3 years? That's 3 years, he can go down. I know it's 3 years here in this state, and it doesn't matter if your 18 or older you can't be 3 years older than the person your dating until you are both 18+

What Country are you in? If you are in Canada, he will go to jail for it, for a long, long time too.

No I'm in America. But my State will hang his up(not actually hang him, do time) for that. I live in Baltimore and someone got it before because the parents got the guy put in jail.

Paedophilia related crimes always deserve jail time...I also support the clinical removal of all paedophile's sexual organs.
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[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"] No, they don't. That's the problem, Isn't statutory like 3 years? That's 3 years, he can go down. I know it's 3 years here in this state, and it doesn't matter if your 18 or older you can't be 3 years older than the person your dating until you are both 18+Solid_Snake325

What Country are you in? If you are in Canada, he will go to jail for it, for a long, long time too.

Get your friend some counselling, the difference between 16 and 13 is HUGE physiologically, he is likely a pedophile.

Haha I remember you. You're the guy who thinks everyone's a pedophile.

No, I'm the guy who thinks paedophiles are paedophiles :) I'm guessing you were one of the people who were all for paedophiles having rights and **** I honestly don't remember, way too many people were supporting paedophiles in that thread.

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wtf why would u want a 13 year old when their are more DEVELOPED girls

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wtf why would u want a 13 year old when their are more DEVELOPED girls

kemar7856

I'd guess some issues are involved. Not only physical maturity is lacking at that age but emotional and intellectual as well.

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is she hot?

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#29 DazedDarkness
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That's it... you know what, I'm just gonna punch him in the face. We've been friends for a long time(since like 5) so I guess he'll take it without any stride. And this wont be the first time I had to him to get him from being stupid.

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Pics or it didn't happen.

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#31 Amnesiac23
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I think he should have to learn his lesson the hard way. If he doesn't want to listen to you, then there is nothing you can do.

Besides, dating a 13 year old is sick. That's a child in my book.

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#32 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"][QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"] What Country are you in? If you are in Canada, he will go to jail for it, for a long, long time too.

Get your friend some counselling, the difference between 16 and 13 is HUGE physiologically, he is likely a pedophile.

Andrew_Xavier

Haha I remember you. You're the guy who thinks everyone's a pedophile.

No, I'm the guy who thinks paedophiles are paedophiles :) I'm guessing you were one of the people who were all for paedophiles having rights and **** I honestly don't remember, way too many people were supporting paedophiles in that thread.

How does that make him a pedophile? He's 16 not 21. Also I have seen MANY 13 year old girls that look like they are 15-16 some even older. It's not right to classify someone has a pedo unelss you know the full story.

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#33 mithrixx
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"]And the girls parents know of their relationship? DazedDarkness
No, they don't. That's the problem, Isn't statutory like 3 years? That's 3 years, he can go down. I know it's 3 years here in this state, and it doesn't matter if your 18 or older you can't be 3 years older than the person your dating until you are both 18+

I think this is his main problem dude. If I were you, I'd advice him to go meet her parents and prove to them that he is a keeper. Parents usually tend to break the dating age rule if the guy who's dating their daughter proves that he would take good care of her. If he gets reported to the cops when he's 18 he'll be stamped by pedophilia for the rest of his life.
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How does that make him a pedophile? He's 16 not 21. Also I have seen MANY 13 year old girls that look like they are 15-16 some even older. It's not right to classify someone has a pedo unelss you know the full story.

bigblunt537
the "honest officer, she looked 18 to me" excuse doesn't work.
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

How does that make him a pedophile? He's 16 not 21. Also I have seen MANY 13 year old girls that look like they are 15-16 some even older. It's not right to classify someone has a pedo unelss you know the full story.

Ontain

the "honest officer, she looked 18 to me" excuse doesn't work.

Yea but he's 16 not 18 he's under the legal age aswell. I honestly see nothing wrong with this other then that guy has bad taste. Plus nothing is illegal unless they are both having sex.

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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

Haha I remember you. You're the guy who thinks everyone's a pedophile.Solid_Snake325
No, I'm the guy who thinks paedophiles are paedophiles :) I'm guessing you were one of the people who were all for paedophiles having rights and **** I honestly don't remember, way too many people were supporting paedophiles in that thread.

How does that make him a pedophile? He's 16 not 21. Also I have seen MANY 13 year old girls that look like they are 15-16 some even older. It's not right to classify someone has a pedo unelss you know the full story.

LOOKING like you are 15-16 does not mean you are 15-16. She is still, mentally, just a child. 3 years is a huge difference when you are in your teens.
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#37 mithrixx
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Yea but he's 16 not 18 he's under the legal age aswell. I honestly see nothing wrong with this other then that guy has bad taste. Plus nothing is illegal unless they are both having sex.

bigblunt537
When he becomes 18, she'll be about 14 or 15. According to OP, she is not allowed to date until she's 16. If her parents find out that she's dating an 18 year-old, they will report him to cops and his life will get screwed up. That's what he needs to avoid
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#38 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

How does that make him a pedophile? He's 16 not 21. Also I have seen MANY 13 year old girls that look like they are 15-16 some even older. It's not right to classify someone has a pedo unelss you know the full story.

bigblunt537

the "honest officer, she looked 18 to me" excuse doesn't work.

Yea but he's 16 not 18 he's under the legal age aswell. I honestly see nothing wrong with this other then that guy has bad taste. Plus nothing is illegal unless they are both having sex.

in a link i posted previously there are references to 2 cases involving 17 year olds with 14 year olds. both found guilty. the one which the male was the 17 year old got a lot worse. of course laws could be different in your state but why risk it?
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When I was in high school, we'd just give a guy a nice little beating for that.

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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"] No, I'm the guy who thinks paedophiles are paedophiles :) I'm guessing you were one of the people who were all for paedophiles having rights and **** I honestly don't remember, way too many people were supporting paedophiles in that thread.

Amnesiac23

How does that make him a pedophile? He's 16 not 21. Also I have seen MANY 13 year old girls that look like they are 15-16 some even older. It's not right to classify someone has a pedo unelss you know the full story.

LOOKING like you are 15-16 does not mean you are 15-16. She is still, mentally, just a child. 3 years is a huge difference when you are in your teens.

When I was 13 I was about just as mature as I was at 16. The only real difference was I knew more because of being in school longer. I also knew what it was like working. Other then that my maturity level was the same. You can't just say shes 13 she has the mind of a child... Everyone is different and raised differently. My current gf has been taking care of her family since she was 13. I'd say that's when she became a women because she had to work, clean, cook and did what she could for her family to be able to live. How is that a little girl? I mean she was robbed of her youth and she should have been enjoying her youth, but without background information on this 13 year old girl one can't assume shes just a baby. That's my only point I'm trying to make.

I agree with you guys saying they should break up, but in reality its not illegal until they engage in intercourse.

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#41 Amnesiac23
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="Amnesiac23"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

How does that make him a pedophile? He's 16 not 21. Also I have seen MANY 13 year old girls that look like they are 15-16 some even older. It's not right to classify someone has a pedo unelss you know the full story.

LOOKING like you are 15-16 does not mean you are 15-16. She is still, mentally, just a child. 3 years is a huge difference when you are in your teens.

When I was 13 I was about just as mature as I was at 16. The only real difference was I knew more because of being in school longer. I also knew what it was like working. Other then that my maturity level was the same. You can't just say shes 13 she has the mind of a child... Everyone is different and raised differently. My current gf has been taking care of her family since she was 13. I'd say that's when she became a women because she had to work, clean, cook and did what she could for her family to be able to live. How is that a little girl? I mean she was robbed of her youth and she should have been enjoying her youth, but without background information on this 13 year old girl one can't assume shes just a baby. That's my only point I'm trying to make.

I agree with you guys saying they should break up, but in reality its not illegal until they engage in intercourse.

I've take psychology and I know that at that age, your mind is in a developmental stage. I thought I was mature when I was 13 too, but looking back I wasn't. There is NO way to justify dating a 13 year old girl when you are 16.
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#43 kemar7856
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[QUOTE="kemar7856"]

wtf why would u want a 13 year old when their are more DEVELOPED girls

LJS9502_basic

I'd guess some issues are involved. Not only physical maturity is lacking at that age but emotional and intellectual as well.

if u say so???

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I kind of feel bad for your friend. What would make him mess a 13 year old when there are girls closer to his age and level of thinking?

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[QUOTE="DazedDarkness"][QUOTE="raven_squad"]And the girls parents know of their relationship? Andrew_Xavier

No, they don't. That's the problem, Isn't statutory like 3 years? That's 3 years, he can go down. I know it's 3 years here in this state, and it doesn't matter if your 18 or older you can't be 3 years older than the person your dating until you are both 18+

What Country are you in? If you are in Canada, he will go to jail for it, for a long, long time too.

Get your friend some counselling, the difference between 16 and 13 is HUGE physiologically, he is likely a pedophile.

I don't think so. For one in Canada, no one goes to jail for long, and two, when I was 16 I did ridiculously stupid stuff as well. Especially when it came to sexuality. Hes not a pedophile, hes a horny teen.
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You could get some photos of Chris Hansen and start placing them in his books, his locker at school, in his car. Paste on on his bedroom window from the outside facing in.
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This has trouble written all over it. He is literally screwed because if he does now want to break it off because he will get in trouble, the girl would probably report him because she is angry with him. If he stays with her then her parents will find out and report him. Does this kid have any parents????