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If there is a God, and our consciousness continues after this life, then I believe we are all destined to be in Heaven. I certainly andunequivocally don't believe in Hell as any real place at all. In fact, the closest I can come to believing in Hell, is the world we all live in. If anything, I think we start out here in the world (Hell), completely separated from God and each other, and then when we "die" here, the separation ceases and we reintegrate with God. That's the only logical way I could see something like Hell existing, since "Hell" is mostly described as separation from God. Hell as a place of fire and brimstone where a vengeful God is waiting to cast the sinners though? No way, not logical, and laughably unbelievable to me.
but god doesnt exist :|
clyde46
I agree friendo.
Plus, I wouldn't get in anyway, I say JESUS CHRIST almost every time I stub my toe.
the bible is fiction just like god.themagicbum9720
Hey hey just to be fair, it is historical fiction :P.
Haha cheesyjon is the only one that actually said something nice towards the TC. :PNice! :)
cheesyjon
I don't deserve to go to heaven. If I don't deserve something, then why would I consciously do something whose sole purpose is to attain that which I don't deserve? That's tantamount to theft.
If God wants to let me into heaven despite my not deserving it, then so be it, but I'm not so selfish as to take for myself what does not belong to me.
The million-dollar question: Will you go to Heaven when you die?Zach-BranniganWell that's easier than "What is the official national fish of Iceland!" I'm locking in "NO!", Chris!
Haha cheesyjon is the only one that actually said something nice towards the TC. :P[QUOTE="NiteLights"]
[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]
Nice! :)
cheesyjon
Well I don't wanna be rude.
And good on you for that.And good on you for that.[QUOTE="NiteLights"]
[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]
Well I don't wanna be rude.
cheesyjon
Thank you for that blessing. :)
Hehe someone's getting into heaven huh? :P
And good on you for that.[QUOTE="NiteLights"]
[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]
Well I don't wanna be rude.
cheesyjon
Thank you for that blessing. :)
No problem. :)[QUOTE="MystikFollower"]
[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]
Thank you for that blessing. :)
cheesyjon
Hehe someone's getting into heaven huh? :P
If it's real, I hope I go. :)
Well I don't know about you folks, but I'm going. 8)Just say "God-"Zach-BranniganAm I actually having a conversation with "God?" Like face to face?
if you really meant that you will be saved. Thanks for your time. Zach-Branniganright now I wouldn't be able to mean it. If I were talking to "God" face to face, I think I could, though.
So we all sinned for being human? My conclusion is: We're already in HELL then if what you said is true.Elian2530Yet there is beauty in this world that could not possibly exist in Hell. All beauty in the world is given to us by God but hell is when our connection with God has been severed. Since I can see beauty in the world, then our connection with God cannot have been severed yet and we are not in Hell.
Well I don't know about you folks, but I'm going. 8)[QUOTE="NiteLights"]
[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]
If it's real, I hope I go. :)
cheesyjon
Sweet. :)
I'll meet you up there, haha can't say much to the rest of the users who posted on this forum. :P[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]
[QUOTE="NiteLights"] Well I don't know about you folks, but I'm going. 8)
NiteLights
Sweet. :)
I'll meet you up there, haha can't say much to the rest of the users who posted on this forum. :PWell, if it is real. I'm still not sure I believe everything, yet. I dunno. Maybe. :)
I'll meet you up there, haha can't say much to the rest of the users who posted on this forum. :P[QUOTE="NiteLights"]
[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]
Sweet. :)
cheesyjon
Well, if it is real. I'm still not sure I believe everything, yet. I dunno. Maybe. :)
Your choice man, but I hope you do. :)I'm going to the worst part of hell, apparently. "using the lord's name in vain" is part of my general way of speaking. Score!XilePrincessHell's ok. They have beer and loose women.
[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]
[QUOTE="NiteLights"] I'll meet you up there, haha can't say much to the rest of the users who posted on this forum. :P
NiteLights
Well, if it is real. I'm still not sure I believe everything, yet. I dunno. Maybe. :)
Your choice man, but I hope you do. :)Well atleast you're nice about it. :)
[QUOTE="Elian2530"]So we all sinned for being human? My conclusion is: We're already in HELL then if what you said is true.Acemaster27Yet there is beauty in this world that could not possibly exist in Hell. All beauty in the world is given to us by God but hell is when our connection with God has been severed. Since I can see beauty in the world, then our connection with God cannot have been severed yet and we are not in Hell.
There is plenty of beauty, but if life was meant to live in a certain harmony with nature and it's environment, then we've done a great job of destroying out ability to truly see that beauty. We've turned what should have been paradise, into Hell, which if true, is what the Adam and Eve parable was referring to. If Hell is separation from God, then this is surely our Hell. I see beauty in the world every day, but I never feel the presence of God in any of it.
Your choice man, but I hope you do. :)[QUOTE="NiteLights"]
[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]
Well, if it is real. I'm still not sure I believe everything, yet. I dunno. Maybe. :)
cheesyjon
Well atleast you're nice about it. :)
Haha well lately I've been trying to be nice to everybody about everything, basically Mission Impossible but with a world like todays, we have to try our best.Yet there is beauty in this world that could not possibly exist in Hell. All beauty in the world is given to us by God but hell is when our connection with God has been severed. Since I can see beauty in the world, then our connection with God cannot have been severed yet and we are not in Hell.[QUOTE="Acemaster27"][QUOTE="Elian2530"]So we all sinned for being human? My conclusion is: We're already in HELL then if what you said is true.MystikFollower
There is plenty of beauty, but if life was meant to live in a certain harmony with nature and it's environment, then we've done a great job of destroying out ability to truly see that beauty. We've turned what should have been paradise, into Hell, which if true, is what the Adam and Eve parable was referring to. If Hell is separation from God, then this is surely our Hell. I see beauty in the world every day, but I never feel the presence of God in any of it.
In recognizing beauty you are recognizing God. And it is true that we have destroyed natural beauty in the world, but we have also created beauty in arts and music, and even at times in cinema. There is beauty and joy in relationships. Were this hell, there might still be some happiness, but it would be empty and meaningless. Not like the joy we can experience in life.Sorry, but I read the first sentence and determined that the rest wasn't worth my time. I don't know if I will go to heaven because as far as I know heaven doesn't exist. If heaven were to exist it would have to be within another realm since we can't see it or reach it.
[QUOTE="MystikFollower"][QUOTE="Acemaster27"] Yet there is beauty in this world that could not possibly exist in Hell. All beauty in the world is given to us by God but hell is when our connection with God has been severed. Since I can see beauty in the world, then our connection with God cannot have been severed yet and we are not in Hell.Acemaster27
There is plenty of beauty, but if life was meant to live in a certain harmony with nature and it's environment, then we've done a great job of destroying out ability to truly see that beauty. We've turned what should have been paradise, into Hell, which if true, is what the Adam and Eve parable was referring to. If Hell is separation from God, then this is surely our Hell. I see beauty in the world every day, but I never feel the presence of God in any of it.
In recognizing beauty you are recognizing God. And it is true that we have destroyed natural beauty in the world, but we have also created beauty in arts and music, and even at times in cinema. There is beauty and joy in relationships. Were this hell, there might still be some happiness, but it would be empty and meaningless. Not like the joy we can experience in life.I suppose I just miss that joy then cause I haven't felt it in a long while. Sometimes I just want to get this life over with so I can finally know for sure, that it wasn't just a meaningless existence of video game forums, endless work, and apathy that it seems to be at times.
In recognizing beauty you are recognizing God. And it is true that we have destroyed natural beauty in the world, but we have also created beauty in arts and music, and even at times in cinema. There is beauty and joy in relationships. Were this hell, there might still be some happiness, but it would be empty and meaningless. Not like the joy we can experience in life.[QUOTE="Acemaster27"][QUOTE="MystikFollower"]
There is plenty of beauty, but if life was meant to live in a certain harmony with nature and it's environment, then we've done a great job of destroying out ability to truly see that beauty. We've turned what should have been paradise, into Hell, which if true, is what the Adam and Eve parable was referring to. If Hell is separation from God, then this is surely our Hell. I see beauty in the world every day, but I never feel the presence of God in any of it.
MystikFollower
I suppose I just miss that joy then cause I haven't felt it in a long while. Sometimes I just want to get this life over with so I can finally know for sure, that it wasn't just a meaningless existence of video game forums, endless work, and apathy that it seems to be at times.
I literally just got up and went outside for a few minutes to stare at the night sky. It's dark enough here to see the milky way. I know its not that way for everyone, but for me staring up at the stars is enough to see beauty in the world. I do understand how repetitive life can get. I make sure the I go to work or school for the purpose of getting the good times that come afterwards. I am glad I only have school and not an actual job.[QUOTE="cheesyjon"]
[QUOTE="NiteLights"] Your choice man, but I hope you do. :)
NiteLights
Well atleast you're nice about it. :)
Haha well lately I've been trying to be nice to everybody about everything, basically Mission Impossible but with a world like todays, we have to try our best.Oh, it's not bad. Lots of people ar actually soooooooooooo nice. :)
I don't want to give my heart to someone who's going to send me to Hell if I don't submit to Him. Someone like that doesn't deserve my love.
The million-dollar question: Will you go to Heaven when you die? Here's a quick test. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything, or used God's name in vain? Jesus said, "Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Have you looked with lust? Will you be guilty on Judgment Day? If you have done those things, God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart. The Bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in Hell. God, who the Bible says is "rich in mercy," sent His Son to suffer and die on the cross for guilty sinners. We broke God's Law, but Jesus paid our fine. That means He can legally dismiss our case. He can commute our death sentence: "For God so loved the world that He gave His only son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." Then He rose from the dead and defeated death. Please, repent (turn from sin) today and God will grant everlasting life to all who trust in Jesus. Then read your Bible daily and obey it. Just say "God, I'm a sinner, I belive Christ died and rose and I repent from my sins. I give my life to you and accept You and Lord and Savoir. Jesus name amen." if you really meant that you will be saved. Thanks for your time. Zach-Brannigan
I don't believe in god, but if it is like you said, then 99,99% of humanity will end up in hell. But we won't. Cause it is not real.
I got a fake million dollar bill with this exact paragraph on it. Why must you get my hopes up about money? :x
Me too! I was doing a fundraiser outside Stop & Shop and this guy comes up and gives us all fake million dollar bills with the exact message written on it...I still have it because I think it's pretty hilarious.I got a fake million dollar bill with this exact paragraph on it. Why must you get my hopes up about money? :x
ice_rootbeer
In fact... here's the website for anyone curious XD
Me too! I was doing a fundraiser outside Stop & Shop and this guy comes up and gives us all fake million dollar bills with the exact message written on it...I still have it because I think it's pretty hilarious.[QUOTE="ice_rootbeer"]
I got a fake million dollar bill with this exact paragraph on it. Why must you get my hopes up about money? :x
TheMostAmazing
In fact... here's the website for anyone curious XD
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