i have a question for people who think jesus never existed

did confucious exist?notconspiracy

Who?

Apples and Oranges, bro. Confucius wasn't a divine entity, just sum guy who gave out common sensepageiszepplin

The same logic can be (and usually is) applied to Jesus.

[QUOTE="pageiszepplin"]Apples and Oranges, bro. Confucius wasn't a divine entity, just sum guy who gave out common senseDracargen

The same logic can be (and usually is) applied to Jesus.

Jesus did exist. It's just that back then he was a like a then-day Houdini.bobaban

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[QUOTE="pageiszepplin"]Apples and Oranges, bro. Confucius wasn't a divine entity, just sum guy who gave out common sensepageiszepplin

The same logic can be (and usually is) applied to Jesus.

Confucius has been documented in many texts. However, it is not really important if he did. Historians are not sure to what degree Laozi existed. What matters is the philosophy that is attributed to him.

Jesus, on the other hand, if he didn't exist, then Christianity would have a problem.

Philosophy versus Religion. Philosophy is important for its theories and ideas, rather than any particular person.

The question is not "did Jesus exist?", the question is "was Jesus the son of God?" (I say yes)Jesus was a historical figure. We might as well debate whether Julius Caesar existed.PannicAtack

Other than the fact that the existence of an emporer is much more documented than the son ofa carpenter, I agree. The important question is the divinity of Jesus.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]The question is not "did Jesus exist?", the question is "was Jesus the son of God?" (I say yes)Jesus was a historical figure. We might as well debate whether Julius Caesar existed.muthsera666

Other than the fact that the existence of an emporer is much more documented than the son ofa carpenter, I agree. The important question is the divinity of Jesus.

I don't think his existence is being questioned, as multiple sources have confirmed it, but rather his status as the son of god.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]The question is not "did Jesus exist?", the question is "was Jesus the son of God?" (I say yes)Jesus was a historical figure. We might as well debate whether Julius Caesar existed.pageiszepplin

Other than the fact that the existence of an emporer is much more documented than the son ofa carpenter, I agree. The important question is the divinity of Jesus.

I thought Joseph was a carpenter?

[QUOTE="pageiszepplin"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="pageiszepplin"]Apples and Oranges, bro. Confucius wasn't a divine entity, just sum guy who gave out common sensemuthsera666

The same logic can be (and usually is) applied to Jesus.

Confucius has been documented in many texts. However, it is not really important if he did. Historians are not sure to what degree Laozi existed. What matters is the philosophy that is attributed to him.

Jesus, on the other hand, if he didn't exist, then Christianity would have a problem.

Philosophy versus Religion. Philosophy is important for its theories and ideas, rather than any particular person.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]The question is not "did Jesus exist?", the question is "was Jesus the son of God?" (I say yes)Jesus was a historical figure. We might as well debate whether Julius Caesar existed.muthsera666

Other than the fact that the existence of an emporer is much more documented than the son ofa carpenter, I agree. The important question is the divinity of Jesus.

I thought Joseph was a carpenter?

And being Joseph's son, he would learn his father's trade.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]The question is not "did Jesus exist?", the question is "was Jesus the son of God?" (I say yes)Jesus was a historical figure. We might as well debate whether Julius Caesar existed.ElZilcho90

Other than the fact that the existence of an emporer is much more documented than the son ofa carpenter, I agree. The important question is the divinity of Jesus.

I thought Joseph was a carpenter?

And being Joseph's son, he would learn his father's trade.

But my point that Jesus was the son of a carpenter was right...

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]The question is not "did Jesus exist?", the question is "was Jesus the son of God?" (I say yes)Jesus was a historical figure. We might as well debate whether Julius Caesar existed.muthsera666

Other than the fact that the existence of an emporer is much more documented than the son ofa carpenter, I agree. The important question is the divinity of Jesus.

I thought Joseph was a carpenter?

And being Joseph's son, he would learn his father's trade.

But my point that Jesus was the son of a carpenter was right...

Yup. Jesus of Nazareth was the son of Joseph, a carpenter, so he would be a carpenter.

Historically, there's no contention as to the existance of one Jesus of Nazareth. The issue of contention is Jesus' divinity as the Christ.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]The question is not "did Jesus exist?", the question is "was Jesus the son of God?" (I say yes)Jesus was a historical figure. We might as well debate whether Julius Caesar existed.ElZilcho90

Other than the fact that the existence of an emporer is much more documented than the son ofa carpenter, I agree. The important question is the divinity of Jesus.

I thought Joseph was a carpenter?

And being Joseph's son, he would learn his father's trade.

But my point that Jesus was the son of a carpenter was right...

Yup. Jesus of Nazareth was the son of Joseph, a carpenter, so he would be a carpenter.

Historically, there's no contention as to the existance of one Jesus of Nazareth. The issue of contention is Jesus' divinity as the Christ.

The only point in arguing is to make yourself look like a pompous jerk. >_>

Do I exist, or am I just a figment of your imagination? :okornholio360

No offense...but I'd prefer to use my imagination for other things.

Which is rather pointless to argue, as everyone will simply believe what they want to believe.

The only point in arguing is to make yourself look like a pompous jerk. >_>

PannicAtack

You have learned well, Young Grasshoppah. :P

*Said to the guy with more posts and a higher level than me*

No one doubts that Jesus existed. We just doubt his divinity.-Makaveli-

Au contraire.....I have seen posts here saying He didn't exist.;)

[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]No one doubts that Jesus existed. We just doubt his divinity.LJS9502_basic

Au contraire.....I have seen posts here saying He didn't exist.;)

"No one, informed, doubts that Jesus existed."

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

Which is rather pointless to argue, as everyone will simply believe what they want to believe.

The only point in arguing is to make yourself look like a pompous jerk. >_>

ElZilcho90

You have learned well, Young Grasshoppah. :P

*Said to the guy with more posts and a higher level than me*

did confucious exist?notconspiracy

it's already been proven that Jesus did exhist.

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"]did confucious exist?jlh47

it's already been proven that Jesus did exhist.

Jesus did exist. He just wasn't the son of god, and he was never resurrected.Solid_Snake1221

In islam we believe jesus did exist. he wasnt the son of good becuase god does not have a father/mother/son/daughter and jesus was taken up to the heavens and not cruicified

Why does it matter? A_New_Life

It's the same thing as a person claiming Lincoln never existed, or Caeser Augustus is a made up character.

[QUOTE="A_New_Life"]Why does it matter? ElZilcho90

It's the same thing as a person claiming Lincoln never existed, or Caeser Augustus is a made up character.

Why does that matter?

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[QUOTE="A_New_Life"]Why does it matter? A_New_Life

It's the same thing as a person claiming Lincoln never existed, or Caeser Augustus is a made up character.

Why does that matter?

It's just another way of someone shoving religion down people's throats.

No, there are some who believe he never existed. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gOAyarlq2Rc

No, there are some who believe he never existed. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gOAyarlq2Rc

RicardoIII