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#1 willtsherman
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but i think bush was a god president, why:

1.sure his speeches are stupid but he has made us safe from terrorist attacks.

2. Hes not the only one for iraq, other people had to vote and win(including hillary clinton and kerry)

3. if there is no reason in iraq, why are american troops dying, its not the iraqi army.

4.He stuck it out and didn't care what the press said.

5.we are helping those in need, wheter they hate us or not (just like darfur)

6. Basically he was pres at the wrong time, much conflict there was but not entirely bushes fault

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#3 Cloud_Insurance
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time for the generic "this will not end well" comment
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#4 DivergeUnify
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He came in at a hard time and didn't warrant anything to be called terrible.
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#6 CRS98
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Personally, I don't care. I don't support him but I'm not anti-Bush.
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#7 Chutebox
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He came in at a hard time and didn't warrant anything to be called terrible.DivergeUnify

Yup, he gets way too much ****

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#9 -TheSecondSign-
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This is so going to not end well.

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#10 willtsherman
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hey im not saying change your beliefs im just showing you what i feel and that the war is not his fault

vietnam had six pres terms with all saying that they will end the war, no offense any politicion to say get out, it is easier said than done

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#11 willtsherman
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[QUOTE="willtsherman"]

but i think bush was a god president, why:

1.sure his speeches are stupid but he has made us safe from terrorist attacks.

2. Hes not the only one for iraq, other people had to vote and win(including hillary clinton and kerry)

3. if there is no reason in iraq, why are american troops dying, its not the iraqi army.

4.He stuck it out and didn't care what the press said.

5.we are helping those in need, wheter they hate us or not (just like darfur)

6. Basically he was pres at the wrong time, much conflict there was but not entirely bushes fault

Funky_Llama

1. No he didn't.

2. So?

3. What? :?

4. Yes, because he's both obstinate and stupid: a dangerous combination.

5. Bring them democracy whether they like it or not. Yeah. :lol:

6. So what? He's an unlucky president as well as a crap president.

i will respect your opinion but please respect mine.
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#12 Funky_Llama
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hey im not saying change your beliefs im just showing you what i feel and that the war is not his fault

vietnam had six pres terms with all saying that they will end the war, no offense any politicion to say get out, it is easier said than done

willtsherman

Yeah, it's not his fault he chose of his own free will to invade Iraq in a ridiculous modern-day crusade.

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#13 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

but i think bush was a god president, why:

1.sure his speeches are stupid but he has made us safe from terrorist attacks.

2. Hes not the only one for iraq, other people had to vote and win(including hillary clinton and kerry)

3. if there is no reason in iraq, why are american troops dying, its not the iraqi army.

4.He stuck it out and didn't care what the press said.

5.we are helping those in need, wheter they hate us or not (just like darfur)

6. Basically he was pres at the wrong time, much conflict there was but not entirely bushes fault

willtsherman

1. No he didn't.

2. So?

3. What? :?

4. Yes, because he's both obstinate and stupid: a dangerous combination.

5. Bring them democracy whether they like it or not. Yeah. :lol:

6. So what? He's an unlucky president as well as a crap president.

i will respect your opinion but please respect mine.

Why? I fail to see why I'm obliged to respect anyone's opinion.

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#14 willtsherman
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[QUOTE="willtsherman"]

hey im not saying change your beliefs im just showing you what i feel and that the war is not his fault

vietnam had six pres terms with all saying that they will end the war, no offense any politicion to say get out, it is easier said than done

Funky_Llama

Yeah, it's not his fault he chose of his own free will to invade Iraq in a ridiculous modern-day crusade.

stop insulting my beliefs, if you think that say it in a better way, there is nothing wrong with debate unless it is disrespectful
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but i think bush was a god president, why:

1.sure his speeches are stupid but he has made us safe from terrorist attacks.

2. Hes not the only one for iraq, other people had to vote and win(including hillary clinton and kerry)

3. if there is no reason in iraq, why are american troops dying, its not the iraqi army.

4.He stuck it out and didn't care what the press said.

5.we are helping those in need, wheter they hate us or not (just like darfur)

6. Basically he was pres at the wrong time, much conflict there was but not entirely bushes fault

willtsherman

well his approval rating is 26 % so 74% of all American disagrees with you including me...... and if you can give me a clear answer on why did we go to iraq in the first place???

Protecting us from terrorist by taking away our freedoms.... yeah go bush.... *rolling eyes*

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#16 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

hey im not saying change your beliefs im just showing you what i feel and that the war is not his fault

vietnam had six pres terms with all saying that they will end the war, no offense any politicion to say get out, it is easier said than done

willtsherman

Yeah, it's not his fault he chose of his own free will to invade Iraq in a ridiculous modern-day crusade.

stop insulting my beliefs, if you think that say it in a better way, there is nothing wrong with debate unless it is disrespectful

'insulting your beliefs'? What, you mean, arguing against them? ¬_¬

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#17 willtsherman
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sure taking away some freedoms, but would you rather get your luggage checked or be killed, we underestimate our freedom, i know its not going to end well because people disrespect my personal beliefs.
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#20 DeathHeart95
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but i think bush was a god president, why:

1.sure his speeches are stupid but he has made us safe from terrorist attacks.

2. Hes not the only one for iraq, other people had to vote and win(including hillary clinton and kerry)

3. if there is no reason in iraq, why are american troops dying, its not the iraqi army.

4.He stuck it out and didn't care what the press said.

5.we are helping those in need, wheter they hate us or not (just like darfur)

6. Basically he was pres at the wrong time, much conflict there was but not entirely bushes fault

willtsherman

1. 9/11

2. I guess, but he wasn't exactly against it

3. I'm honestly confused by your wording...

4. I suppose he's good on that point

5. Wait. What? He took forever to do anything on Katrina (FEMA wasn't so good either). Also, last time I checked there weren't any American troops in Darfur. May be wrong though.

6. He didn't even attempt to stop it though. His approach to the Middle East seems to be to just blow the hell out of everything.

I personally think he's far from a good president. America's had worse though.

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#21 Theokhoth
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He was not a god president.:x
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#22 Funky_Llama
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He was not a god president.:xTheokhoth

A what president?

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#23 DeathHeart95
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He was not a god president.:xTheokhoth

No he was not. Where's Jesus when you need him? :P

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#24 helium_flash
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I think he is a bad president. If only Al Gore had won.
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="willtsherman"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

hey im not saying change your beliefs im just showing you what i feel and that the war is not his fault

vietnam had six pres terms with all saying that they will end the war, no offense any politicion to say get out, it is easier said than done

willtsherman

Yeah, it's not his fault he chose of his own free will to invade Iraq in a ridiculous modern-day crusade.

stop insulting my beliefs, if you think that say it in a better way, there is nothing wrong with debate unless it is disrespectful

'insulting your beliefs'? What, you mean, arguing against them? ¬_¬

im sorry funky lama but if you won't act mature, i will have to report you

funky lama isnt going anywhere regardless

here is an interesting argument though nearly everybody working for Bush disagreed with his decision to go to war in Iraq saying that he will find neither weapons of mass destruction (remeber that plan?) nor Osama Bin Laden (its like i can barely remember his name nowadays) there

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#26 horgen  Moderator
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Hey guys what is wrong with actually be happy with the current president? Is it an unwritten law that you must hate him?
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#27 willtsherman
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ok 9/11 would have happend any day regardless of what president, if people disagreed to going to war why did democrats(hillary and kerry) and republicans voted FOR it. IF noone wanted to go then how come the declaration was passed, the house of reps and congress must have voted a higher number to go to war
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ok 9/11 would have happend any day regardless of what president, if people disagreed to going to war why did democrats(hillary and kerry) and republicans voted FOR it. IF noone wanted to go then how come the declaration was passed, the house of reps and congress must have voted a higher number to go to warwilltsherman

I know you will all disagree with me... 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!

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#29 Funky_Llama
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willtsherman, your sig is funny. Although I can assure you, I'm laughing at you, not with you. :lol:

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[QUOTE="willtsherman"]

but i think bush was a god president, why:

1.sure his speeches are stupid but he has made us safe from terrorist attacks.

2. Hes not the only one for iraq, other people had to vote and win(including hillary clinton and kerry)

3. if there is no reason in iraq, why are american troops dying, its not the iraqi army.

4.He stuck it out and didn't care what the press said.

5.we are helping those in need, wheter they hate us or not (just like darfur)

6. Basically he was pres at the wrong time, much conflict there was but not entirely bushes fault

DeathHeart95


3. I'm honestly confused by your wording...

I think he means Americans are dying there so there must be an enemy present.. and the enemy isn't the Iraqi Army it is the Insurgents/Terrorists.

Regardless of wherever we decide to go in the middle-east we are going to have to deal with Terrorism/terrorists. Think of it this way; the brave men and women that are in Iraq and Afghanistan right now are actually preventing further terrorist actions in the states to a large extent, its all a matter of geography. For the terrorist the enemy is right next door so its easier for them to plan and go through with attacks and easier for us to counteract them.

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#31 willtsherman
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Fact: no president is perfect,

to clear number 3 up, if iraq was pointless and were all done, why are people dying, none of you will ever know and understand what is hppening in this war, not even me.

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#32 bsman00
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Hey guys what is wrong with actually be happy with the current president? Is it an unwritten law that you must hate him?horgen123

yes when your as bad as bush...now if it was jfk as presdient now then it would be a differnt story....

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#33 Funky_Llama
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to clear number 3 up, if iraq was pointless and were all done, why are people dying, none of you will ever know and understand what is hppening in this war, not even me.

willtsherman

Oh, I see. So a war has a point if people die in it. :roll: I imagine you make a good marine.

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#34 bsman00
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Fact: no president is perfect,

to clear number 3 up, if iraq was pointless and were all done, why are people dying, none of you will ever know and understand what is hppening in this war, not even me.

willtsherman

i know why did we send our troops over there ... no point to this war... but know we have to stay there cause if we dont... wait no what am i thinking we need to GTFO ASAP

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#35 DeathHeart95
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Hey guys what is wrong with actually be happy with the current president? Is it an unwritten law that you must hate him?horgen123

Maybe Bush actually sucks?

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#36 Chirag6
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I disagree.
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#37 darksword1123
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None of your points make Bush a good president they're just excuses.
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[QUOTE="horgen123"]Hey guys what is wrong with actually be happy with the current president? Is it an unwritten law that you must hate him?DeathHeart95

Maybe Bush actually sucks?

I am only asking. I am not american so I don't know everything he does like you do.
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#39 willtsherman
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to clear number 3 up, if iraq was pointless and were all done, why are people dying, none of you will ever know and understand what is hppening in this war, not even me.

Funky_Llama

Oh, I see. So a war has a point if people die in it. :roll: I imagine you make a good marine.

no lama , i mean if people are dying, there must be a problem that we have to solve, i would make a good marine, i am in ROTC and a full blown debators team
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#41 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]

to clear number 3 up, if iraq was pointless and were all done, why are people dying, none of you will ever know and understand what is hppening in this war, not even me.

willtsherman

Oh, I see. So a war has a point if people die in it. :roll: I imagine you make a good marine.

no lama , i mean if people are dying, there must be a problem that we have to solve, i would make a good marine, i am in ROTC and a full blown debators team

People were dying when Hitler invaded Poland. Clearly that was OK because there must've been a problem that needed solving in Poland. :roll:

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[QUOTE="horgen123"]Hey guys what is wrong with actually be happy with the current president? Is it an unwritten law that you must hate him?horgen123

Maybe Bush actually sucks?

I am only asking. I am not american so I don't know everything he does like you do.

Oh. Sounded like you thought that people hated Bush just to hate him. My apologies.

But he does actually suck. Some people probably do hate the president just to hate him, people were like that even with Lincoln. I actually think he sucks though.

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#43 willtsherman
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sigh........ llama what happend in poland was a genocide, not a war, if the terrorist are killing somewhere there is a problem we need to solve
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#44 willtsherman
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i think i like you llama, you would make a fine debator

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#45 Funky_Llama
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sigh........ llama what happend in poland was a genocide, not a war, if the terrorist are killing somewhere there is a problem we need to solvewilltsherman

But invading Iraq hasn't solved that problem; if anything, it's exacerbating it.

i think i like you llama, you would make a fine debator

willtsherman

Hooray! :D

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#46 willtsherman
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the thing that really scared me was that uday would takethe soccer players and put them in an iron maiden, and no not the band
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#47 bsman00
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willtsherman you trust your government way too much... have you read in history books before?

and with your sig are trying to say obama is like osama?? there names are similar thats it... you should ask bush and his dad how the binladens are doing.. i know the did some business in they past

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#48 willtsherman
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i know why:

integrity first

service before self

excellence in all we do.

and that im going to be a politician

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i mean if people are dying, there must be a problem that we have to solve, i would make a good marine, i am in ROTC and a full blown debators teamwilltsherman

death is rarely solved by invading countries.

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#50 Funky_Llama
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i know why:

integrity first

service before self

excellence in all we do.

and that im going to be a politician

willtsherman

Jingoism is not an argument. :?

Also, no you're not.