I question Batman's code of ethics

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#1 deactivated-5a79221380856
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First off, why won't he kill someone? Imagine how better off Gotham would be if Batman killed some of his enemies. Secondly, why won't he use guns? It would be so much easier for Batman to take down criminals by shooting them, rather than throwing a bat-shaped boomerang. Thirdly, what is up with the get up? Does he really think that criminals will take him seriously by dressing up as a bat? I'd be more scared of the Man-Bat, an actual gigantic bat fused with a human, than just the poser that Batman is.

So, what are your thoughts? Do you think Batman would be better off if he killed, shot, and had a wardrobe change?

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#2 raven_squad
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As long as his suit doesn't have hard nipples on it, me and Batman are cool.

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#3 Dylan_11
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Batman wouldn't be Batman if he did all the things you want him to.
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#4 mo0ksi
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I don't believe that Batman never killed anyone. Seriously, like he never beat somebody to death given his strength? But if he ended up just shooting people, then he wouldn't be much different from the Punisher.
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#5 -SPECTER-MIKE
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Its the principle, if he kills them he is no better than they are.

I dont think he uses guns because that is what killed his parents.

The suit is actually scary, try to imagine it in real life. Its pitch black and you come face to face with a 6'3' 250lb bat.

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#6 cd_rom
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If he uses the same tactics that the criminals use, then he's no better than they are.
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#7 Big_Bad_Sad
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All super heroes are the same. They're a disappointment. Thats why I always want the baddies to win. I leave the film with about 30 minutes to go and the baddie still alive and pretend he won and destroyed the world.
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#8 Oleg_Huzwog
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Batman doesn't believe in the greater good, nor does he legitimately desire to do what is best for Gotham. He needs to be needed.

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#9 elblanquito_81
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His parents were shot and killed right in front of him. I think that's a big reason why he won't resort to either of those things you mentioned.

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#10 Noskillkill
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if he did he would justbe some murderous vigilante.

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#11 unholymight
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Bullets are too lethal for the Batman. They could kill. The get-up is because he wants to become a symbol of justice, and finally he won't kill because killing is rude and un-Batmanlike.
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#12 z4twenny
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Batman wouldn't be Batman if he did all the things you want him to.Dylan_11

+1

if you knew anything at all about batman you'd know he doesn't kill people b/c thats a personal code. his parents were shot and killed in front of him by muggers when he was a kid. he swore to protect gotham without becoming what he's trying to stop

"in slaying demons, see to it that you do not become one in the process"

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#13 coolbeans90
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First off, why won't he kill someone? Imagine how better off Gotham would be if Batman killed all of his enemies. Secondly, why won't he use guns? It would be so much easier for Batman to take down criminals by shooting them, rather than throwing a bat-shaped boomerang. Thirdly, what is up with the get up? Does he really think that criminals will take him seriously by dressing up as a bat? I'd be more scared of the Man-Bat, an actual gigantic bat fused with a human, than just the poser that Batman is.

So, what are your thoughts? Do you think Batman would be better off if he killed, shot, and had a wardrobe change?

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You shouldn't question Batman's code of ethics. End of story.

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#14 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Its the principle, if he kills them he is no better than they are.

I dont think he uses guns because that is what killed his parents.

The suit is actually scary, try to imagine it in real life. Its pitch black and you come face to face with a 6'3' 250lb bat.

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I disagree with your first point, because the justice some of the criminals deserve in Gotham is death. Your second point is actually valid, although it's weird that Batman wouldn't get over his fear of guns to use them. I find that trait to be weak. I can't take anyone dressed up as a bat seriously though. Maybe in a dark alley perhaps, which is where Batman can usually be found, so you may have a point there.
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#15 Noskillkill
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As long as his suit doesn't have hard nipples on it, me and Batman are cool.

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i find the nipples to be strangely....................arousing...

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#16 deactivated-5a79221380856
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All super heroes are the same. They're a disappointment. Thats why I always want the baddies to win. I leave the film with about 30 minutes to go and the baddie still alive and pretend he won and destroyed the world.Big_Bad_Sad
That's actually pretty funny, although I can't imagine paying for a film and not watching all of it, but at least you receive more enjoyment from it, so that's a plus.
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#17 cyberdarkkid
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Well he's pretty much just a vigilante, a badass one.......
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#18 Noskillkill
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[QUOTE="-SPECTER-MIKE"]

Its the principle, if he kills them he is no better than they are.

I dont think he uses guns because that is what killed his parents.

The suit is actually scary, try to imagine it in real life. Its pitch black and you come face to face with a 6'3' 250lb bat.

Genetic_Code

I disagree with your first point, because the justice some of the criminals deserve in Gotham is death. Your second point is actually valid, although it's weird that Batman wouldn't get over his fear of guns to use them. I find that trait to be weak. I can't take anyone dressed up as a bat seriously though. Maybe in a dark alley perhaps, which is where Batman can usually be found, so you may have a point there.

Thank God you are not a judge. most of the criminals are dealers and robbers. and even the murderers (except for the joker) dont deserve death. life sentence is what they should get. or maybe like 30 years. but you can't kill everyone who does something bad.

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#19 kulmiye
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Let me propose a question to you sir. Do you not question the methods that Jack Bauer takes when hunting down terrorist all in the name of protect his country?
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#20 unholymight
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"]

As long as his suit doesn't have hard nipples on it, me and Batman are cool.

Noskillkill

i find the nipples to be strangely....................arousing...

I disagree. I believe they're supposed to be manly bat-nipples, which are highly intimidating in any situation.

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#21 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Thank God you are not a judge. most of the criminals are dealers and robbers. and even the murderers (except for the joker) dont deserve death. life sentence is what they should get. or maybe like 30 years. but you can't kill everyone who does something bad.

Noskillkill
I said some criminals, not all, and most of the criminals that Batman deals with are murderers anyway. People like Ra's al Ghul deserve death.
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#22 GabuEx
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Batman's code of ethics has done more good than any of us here combined, so I don't think we're in any position to criticize. :P

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#23 Noskillkill
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[QUOTE="Noskillkill"]

[QUOTE="raven_squad"]

As long as his suit doesn't have hard nipples on it, me and Batman are cool.

unholymight

i find the nipples to be strangely....................arousing...

I disagree. I believe they're supposed to be manly bat-nipples, which are highly intimidating in any situation.

well i suppose if i was a criminal and i ran into the Batman, i wouldn't take his suit seriously without them. but when my eyes locked with his ink black nips, i would think "oh snap, this guy means business."

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As long as his suit doesn't have hard nipples on it, me and Batman are cool.

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But supple. pliable ones are fine, right?
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#25 Desulated
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Batman fights better than a ninja, he has no need for guns.

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#26 darkmoney52
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I'm glad that he doesn't just waste every two-bit criminal he comes across. But he really should kill enemies like the Joker. Deciding not to kill someone like him is deciding to let the joker kill more people.

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#27 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Let me propose a question to you sir. Do you not question the methods that Jack Bauer takes when hunting down terrorist all in the name of protect his country?kulmiye
Good question. I question some of Jack Bauer's methods, like him willing to risk the life of an innocent being (the time where he sacrificed Chloe O'Brian's friend Andrew Paige to get the terrorists for example, although he saved him in the end), but as far as interrogations go, if they're performed on known terrorists, I have no problem with it. Jack Bauer though will interrogate anyone remotely suspected of terrorism.
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#28 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Batman's code of ethics has done more good than any of us here combined, so I don't think we're in any position to criticize. :P

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Yes, I will admit that. I just think that someone in his position with his abilities could do better.
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#29 Noskillkill
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[QUOTE="Noskillkill"]

Thank God you are not a judge. most of the criminals are dealers and robbers. and even the murderers (except for the joker) dont deserve death. life sentence is what they should get. or maybe like 30 years. but you can't kill everyone who does something bad.

Genetic_Code

I said some criminals, not all, and most of the criminals that Batman deals with are murderers anyway. People like Ra's al Ghul deserve death.

hah you said MOST.and remember not everyone of his foes kills people. (sure they attempt, but as we all learned in 6th grade science, "The Laws of Fail state that all fails are avoidable, unless the circumstances you are faced with involve Youtube arguments, Riding scooters after the age of 32, and facing off with Batman. In that case, it is an autofail."

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#30 darkmoney52
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[QUOTE="Noskillkill"]

Thank God you are not a judge. most of the criminals are dealers and robbers. and even the murderers (except for the joker) dont deserve death. life sentence is what they should get. or maybe like 30 years. but you can't kill everyone who does something bad.

Genetic_Code
I said some criminals, not all, and most of the criminals that Batman deals with are murderers anyway. People like Ra's al Ghul deserve death.

That part of Batman Begins made me laugh. "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you either". Kind of an arbitrary distinction after you and your friends sabotaged the train and beat the crap out of the guy until the last minute before it crashed. I think it's funny how superhero movies and comics frown on killing the enemy so much, but then acknowledge it's a good thing when they die.
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#31 FFCYAN
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  1. Batman doesn't kill people because he's better than that.
  2. Guns are for *******.
  3. There is nothing wrong with Batman's suit. It's much cooler than wearing tights or looking like a circus freak.
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#32 cpo335
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Tjhe reason he is a bat is because he was afraid of bats, so he chose that in sort of a symbolic manner. And he won't kill people because it would just bring him down to their level.
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#33 Head_of_games
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Batman's code of ethics has done more good than any of us here combined,

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I beg to differ.

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hah you said MOST.and remember not everyone of his foes kills people. (sure they attempt, but as we all learned in 6th grade science, "The Laws of Fail state that all fails are avoidable, unless the circumstances you are faced with involve Youtube arguments, Riding scooters after the age of 32, and facing off with Batman. In that case, it is an autofail."

Noskillkill
Here's what I said:

I disagree with your first point, because the justice some of the criminals deserve in Gotham is death.

Genetic_Code
But that doesn't matter, because in the original post I said:

Imagine how better off Gotham would be if Batman killed all of his enemies.

Genetic_Code
So, you got me anyway. :P
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Batman's code of ethics has done more good than any of us here combined, so I don't think we're in any position to criticize. :P

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Who are you to talk such nonsense? :x
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#36 Neon-Tiger
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You just described the Punisher. Punisher=/=Batman.
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#37 raven_squad
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[QUOTE="raven_squad"]

As long as his suit doesn't have hard nipples on it, me and Batman are cool.

xaos

But supple. pliable ones are fine, right?

Depends how readily he will let me touch them...

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#38 kulmiye
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Batman is often seen as a cool figure and if he were to kill then that would make other perceive that it is cool to kill any and all criminals, which also means that he must kill himself for being a criminal once all the crime has been eradicated.
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#39 aransom
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First off, why won't he kill someone? Imagine how better off Gotham would be if Batman killed all of his enemies.

Genetic_Code

Sure it would have made more sense for Batman and Robin to kill every villain after they captured them, but then the series would have only lasted five or six episodes. Also, Catwoman was too hot to kill.

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While Batman won't kill people (no matter how evil or horrible they are), I think he could at least shatter some bones (like in Dark Knight) and generally screw those thugs up.

Won't be committing too many crimes when your in a wheelchair and eating food through a straw for the rest of your life.

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#41 deactivated-61d91d42c39df
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the villans always escape from jail though and end up killing more people.

so yes I kind of question the "never kill" ethics side as well since it jsut seems to result it more deaths.

I think batman is a well written story but I find his "must not kill" principles kind of unrealistic and annoying

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#42 hiphopballer
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As long as his suit doesn't have hard nipples on it, me and Batman are cool.

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lolol thats true

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As long as his suit doesn't have hard nipples on it, me and Batman are cool.

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Love the molded nipples.