I think I might dislike America...

I'm Australian, and was reading about this nerve agent "Sarin" 500 times more toxic then cyonide. Has a bunch of nasty effects before death such as

• coma
• convulsions
• death
• difficulty breathing
• disturbed sleep and nightmares
• extreme sensitivity to light
• foaming at the mouth
• high fevers
• influenza-like symptoms
• loss of consciousness
• loss of memory
• loss of bowel control
• nausea and vomiting
• paralysis
• post-traumatic stress disorder
• respiratory problems
• seizures
• uncontrollable trembling
• vision problems, both temporary and permanent

If you do manage to survive due to quick administration of anti-dote, you still suffer some of those symptoms potentially for the rest of your life. The Nazi's experimented with Sarin during World War 2, but ultimatly decided not to use it on allied troops. The US decided to experiment with it during and after WW2, and decided to test it on thier own men, and men of other countries! Lets have a look.

1953: 20-year-old Ronald Maddison, a Royal Air Force engineer from Consett, County Durham, died in human testing of sarin at the Porton Down chemical warfare testing facility in Wiltshire. Maddison had been told that he was participating in a test to "cure the common cold." Ten days after his death an inquest was held in secret which returned a verdict of "misadventure".

and here's the kicker

• 1960s (developing): The US unsuccessfully sought Australian permission to test Sarin and VX gas on 200 "mainly Australian" troops, probably in the Iron Range rainforest near Lockhart River, Queensland. While this never actually took place, the planning was in advanced stages.[10]

The 1960's weren't exactly that long ago, to think they could even try doing that to people over here... and think they'd get away with it? If some other country attempted to experiment on US troops, how the hell would that go down.

So yes, right now the US is sounding pretty damn hypocritical to me :)

Yeah because Australia is clean right? :|

I think someone should call the Wambulance.

Link?

I don't like America either, but all this proves is that war sucks.

I think someone should call the Wambulance.

phillo99

Guys, you dislike the United States.

Not America

Its a subtle difference, but a difference none the less.

Find me a nation that isn't hypocritical....duxup

Also this century the Germans commited the Holocaust and America was segrigated.

You shouldn't judge countries by thier dark pasts.

Also all countries are run by human beings. You'd be suprised how similar we all really are.

I'm Australian, and was reading about this nerve agent "Sarin" 500 times more toxic then cyonide. Has a bunch of nasty effects before death such as

• coma
• convulsions
• death
• difficulty breathing
• disturbed sleep and nightmares
• extreme sensitivity to light
• foaming at the mouth
• high fevers
• influenza-like symptoms
• loss of consciousness
• loss of memory
• loss of bowel control
• nausea and vomiting
• paralysis
• post-traumatic stress disorder
• respiratory problems
• seizures
• uncontrollable trembling
• vision problems, both temporary and permanent

If you do manage to survive due to quick administration of anti-dote, you still suffer some of those symptoms potentially for the rest of your life. The Nazi's experimented with Sarin during World War 2, but ultimatly decided not to use it on allied troops. The US decided to experiment with it during and after WW2, and decided to test it on thier own men, and men of other countries! Lets have a look.

1953: 20-year-old Ronald Maddison, a Royal Air Force engineer from Consett, County Durham, died in human testing of sarin at the Porton Down chemical warfare testing facility in Wiltshire. Maddison had been told that he was participating in a test to "cure the common cold." Ten days after his death an inquest was held in secret which returned a verdict of "misadventure".

and here's the kicker

• 1960s (developing): The US unsuccessfully sought Australian permission to test Sarin and VX gas on 200 "mainly Australian" troops, probably in the Iron Range rainforest near Lockhart River, Queensland. While this never actually took place, the planning was in advanced stages.[10]

The 1960's weren't exactly that long ago, to think they could even try doing that to people over here... and think they'd get away with it? If some other country attempted to experiment on US troops, how the hell would that go down.

So yes, right now the US is sounding pretty damn hypocritical to me :)

DriftRS

Since when is death a symptom?

I'm Australian, and was reading about this nerve agent "Sarin" 500 times more toxic then cyonide. Has a bunch of nasty effects before death such as

• death

DriftRS

lolwut :lol:

Guys, you dislike the United States.

Not America

Its a subtle difference, but a difference none the less.

mrbojangles25

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Guys, you dislike the United States.

Not America

Its a subtle difference, but a difference none the less.

Dark__Link

how so? The American people didn't do anything, it was all the United States government's actions.

I dont walk around going "I hate France" even if I might dislike the French government. There's too much hate in this world and its wrong to dislike an entire country full of good people.

How is it hypocritical? All we wanted to do was test out some poison. fidosim

Since when is death a symptom?

WiiMan21

Doctor B: "Oh."

Doctor A: "He is dead."

Doctor B: "Oh yea that is a serious symptom."

Find me a nation that isn't hypocritical....duxup

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]

I'm Australian, and was reading about this nerve agent "Sarin" 500 times more toxic then cyonide. Has a bunch of nasty effects before death such as

• death

chessmaster1989

lolwut :lol:

[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Guys, you dislike the United States.

Not America

Its a subtle difference, but a difference none the less.

mrbojangles25

how so? The American people didn't do anything, it was all the United States government's actions.

I dont walk around going "I hate France" even if I might dislike the French government. There's too much hate in this world and its wrong to dislike an entire country full of good people.

So...do you have a source or what?

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]

I'm Australian, and was reading about this nerve agent "Sarin" 500 times more toxic then cyonide. Has a bunch of nasty effects before death such as

• death

chessmaster1989

lolwut :lol:

Find me a nation that isn't hypocritical....duxup

Guys, you dislike the United States.

Not America

Its a subtle difference, but a difference none the less.

mrbojangles25

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Guys, you dislike the United States.

Not America

Its a subtle difference, but a difference none the less.

Lockedge

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Guys, you dislike the United States.

Not America

Its a subtle difference, but a difference none the less.

Lockedge

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Dark__Link"] Wow, you are obnoxious.Dark__Link

how so? The American people didn't do anything, it was all the United States government's actions.

I dont walk around going "I hate France" even if I might dislike the French government. There's too much hate in this world and its wrong to dislike an entire country full of good people.

HAHAHA its ok, I thought you were coming off a little too harsh given my comment, lol

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Guys, you dislike the United States.

Not America

Its a subtle difference, but a difference none the less.

soldier-dark

no no no you misunderstood me

its just a personal thing with me. I dont see Americans (from the US) as the same as the United States, because I really dont like what my government does a lot of the time (the United States), and I make the distinction by calling the people residing in this country Americans.

sorry its just a personal thing, forget I even said it.

[QUOTE="soldier-dark"][QUOTE="Lockedge"] Aye. I live in Canada, and I can say I'm from America. A person born in and living in Brazil is an American. Just because one country in North America names itself after the two western continents doesn't mean that it gets to be considered 'America".mrbojangles25

no no no you misunderstood me

its just a personal thing with me. I dont see Americans (from the US) as the same as the United States, because I really dont like what my government does a lot of the time (the United States), and I make the distinction by calling the people residing in this country Americans.

sorry its just a personal thing, forget I even said it.

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Guys, you dislike the United States.

Not America

Its a subtle difference, but a difference none the less.

soldier-dark

[QUOTE="soldier-dark"][QUOTE="Lockedge"] Aye. I live in Canada, and I can say I'm from America. A person born in and living in Brazil is an American. Just because one country in North America names itself after the two western continents doesn't mean that it gets to be considered 'America".Lockedge

hmmmmmmmmm "statesmen" has a nice ring to it.

Hello, I am Statesman Bojangles, from the grand continent of The United States

:P

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="soldier-dark"] Semantics. And when you're arguing those, it's usually best to go with the more accepted and used terminologies. In this case, 'America' and 'American' relate to the United States of America. Your negligence to see the sense in this terminology is something that confuses me, please explain why it shouldn't be referred to like that?mrbojangles25

hmmmmmmmmm "statesmen" has a nice ring to it.

Hello, I am Statesman Bojangles, from the grand continent of The United States

:P

Never hate a country for the actions of their government. I just don't like their traditional foreign policy.