I want to enlist in the armed forces but...

sorry if this seems like a fad topic, but its a serious question

anyway, I want to join, but im really out of shape (overweight)

Talk to a recruiter to find out the weight regulations necessary for enlistment.

With that goal in mind, go to a gym and get a trainer to work towards reaching that goal.

I took a year while studying and hit the gym 4 times a week. In a year was in good shape and had no problem with basic training. I wasnt overweight when I started training, just not in shape.

talk to ur recruiter, most likely they have a program. The United States Marine Corps has the DEP (Delayed Entry Program) program, so does the Navy. Join that and have ur recruiter help u get in shape thats his job make him do it. Also, when u ship out to boot camp (mind u im talking about the Marines) and you are still overweight the drill instructors will put u on a weight loss plan. If you fail a PFT (Physical Fitness Test) then they will send u to the PCP (Pork Chop Platoon) and u will remain there until u can complete a 3rd class PFT which is at least 50 crunches, 3 pull ups, and a 3 mile run within i believe 28 min.MarineXXII

[QUOTE="MarineXXII"]talk to ur recruiter, most likely they have a program. The United States Marine Corps has the DEP (Delayed Entry Program) program, so does the Navy. Join that and have ur recruiter help u get in shape thats his job make him do it. Also, when u ship out to boot camp (mind u im talking about the Marines) and you are still overweight the drill instructors will put u on a weight loss plan. If you fail a PFT (Physical Fitness Test) then they will send u to the PCP (Pork Chop Platoon) and u will remain there until u can complete a 3rd class PFT which is at least 50 crunches, 3 pull ups, and a 3 mile run within i believe 28 min.notconspiracy

2 years? most def. i ran 2 miles a day, did 300 sittups and push ups a day before i went. I was in shape big time when i went to Parris Island, guess wat? Boot camp is a breeze, i was quite angry

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="MarineXXII"]talk to ur recruiter, most likely they have a program. The United States Marine Corps has the DEP (Delayed Entry Program) program, so does the Navy. Join that and have ur recruiter help u get in shape thats his job make him do it. Also, when u ship out to boot camp (mind u im talking about the Marines) and you are still overweight the drill instructors will put u on a weight loss plan. If you fail a PFT (Physical Fitness Test) then they will send u to the PCP (Pork Chop Platoon) and u will remain there until u can complete a 3rd class PFT which is at least 50 crunches, 3 pull ups, and a 3 mile run within i believe 28 min.MarineXXII

2 years? most def. i ran 2 miles a day, did 300 sittups and push ups a day before i went. I was in shape big time when i went to Parris Island, guess wat? Boot camp is a breeze, i was quite angry

I'm with D3MO, don't do it. I have much respect for the troops but none for the war. I don't know what your thoughts are but I would never put myself in harms way fighting for a cause I did not believe in. But, maybe you do believe in the cause. Not my place to judge.GSU28

but if I do get in shape, the armed forces sound totally badass

Alright then, I have much respect for you. I would consider searching for people who overcame the same obstacle that is blocking your path and asking them for advice.

Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.giton

Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.giton

Another typical hippie response. There not sending all the people to Iraq you know, and just because you dont support one of their opperations doesnt mean its okay for you to spread your anti war propaganda.

Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.giton

[QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.SmashBrosLegend

[QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.SmashBrosLegend

I'm just trying to put it nicely, which is tough enough to do. My sense of morality may not be superior, but it is right.

In what way am I forcing my morals on anyone? Is that what you are doing when you express your opinion?

[QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.notconspiracy

Meaning you don't care about the moral consequences of your choices?

[QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.Penguin_dragon

Another typical hippie response. There not sending all the people to Iraq you know, and just because you dont support one of their opperations doesnt mean its okay for you to spread your anti war propaganda.

ROFLMAO! Not only am I not a hippie, the fact that some servicemen are sent to Iraq and some are not has no bearing on whether or not it is moral to join the military.

Of course it's ok for me to express my opinions. Same is true for you.

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[QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.giton

Another typical hippie response. There not sending all the people to Iraq you know, and just because you dont support one of their opperations doesnt mean its okay for you to spread your anti war propaganda.

ROFLMAO! Not only am I not a hippie, the fact that some servicemen are sent to Iraq and some are not has no bearing on whether or not it is moral to join the military.

Of course it's ok for me to express my opinions. Same is true for you.

Well the way i was raised no, it is not okay to talk bad about someone who puts their lives on the line to protect our country. And I find your argument faulty because, of course the millitary defends our country, who do you think arrived to help when Katrina happend? A unicorn that flies on rainbows? You bring morals into question, but it is through conflicts and wars that America was founded. Morals are also not valid reason to say something is bad. Im shure suicide bombers believe they have great morals dying for their god.

[QUOTE="giton"][QUOTE="Penguin_dragon"]

[QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.Penguin_dragon

Another typical hippie response. There not sending all the people to Iraq you know, and just because you dont support one of their opperations doesnt mean its okay for you to spread your anti war propaganda.

ROFLMAO! Not only am I not a hippie, the fact that some servicemen are sent to Iraq and some are not has no bearing on whether or not it is moral to join the military.

Of course it's ok for me to express my opinions. Same is true for you.

Well the way i was raised no, it is not okay to talk bad about someone who puts their lives on the line to protect our country. And I find your argument faulty because, of course the millitary defends our country, who do you think arrived to help when Katrina happend? A unicorn that flies on rainbows? You bring morals into question, but it is through conflicts and wars that America was founded. Morals are also not valid reason to say something is bad. Im shure suicide bombers believe they have great morals dying for their god.

it seems like you can't see through your biases. your acount of history is distorted. teh conclusions you draw are without foundation. your appeal to relativism is unconvincing and illogical. but go ahead and thump your chest, and wave a flag too.

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.giton

Meaning you don't care about the moral consequences of your choices?

:roll: Because we all know if no one joined the military services the rest of the world would surely leave us alone and not invade.

And TC....get in shape first.

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.notconspiracy

So what branch are you *cough* Air Force *cough* considering?

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.Frattracide

So what branch are you *cough* Air Force *cough* considering?

Army all the way....>__>

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.LJS9502_basic

So what branch are you *cough* Air Force *cough* considering?

Army all the way....>__>

lame.

lame.

Frattracide

:roll: I don't like to pick on other services so I won't respond in kind.:)

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.Frattracide

So what branch are you *cough* Air Force *cough* considering?

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.notconspiracy

So what branch are you *cough* Air Force *cough* considering?

I have a lot of family in or retired from the corps. Those guys are crazy. Very proud though. . .

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]

lame.

LJS9502_basic

:roll: I don't like to pick on other services so I won't respond in kind.:)

You in teh army?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Frattracide"]

lame.

Frattracide

:roll: I don't like to pick on other services so I won't respond in kind.:)

You in teh army?

I was....

[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Frattracide"]

lame.

LJS9502_basic

:roll: I don't like to pick on other services so I won't respond in kind.:)

You in teh army?

I was....

What did you do? If you don't mind my asking.

What did you do? If you don't mind my asking.

Frattracide

Military Intelligence...

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]

What did you do? If you don't mind my asking.

LJS9502_basic

Military Intelligence...

sweet.

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.notconspiracy

So what branch are you *cough* Air Force *cough* considering?

Marines FTW

Basic is a politically correct shadow of its former self. Even the most out of shape person i know could complete it now.

This coupled with the fact they are missing quota and are having a hard time getting people to re-enlist means pretty much anyone short of the morbid obese can get accepted into at least delayed entry.

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="Frattracide"]

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="giton"]Another DON'T DO IT. Wars of aggression are immoral. You may have the conviction that by joining the military, you will be defending your country. It's not true. Defense is a response to an attack, and Iraq did not attack the US.pugmonkey9999

So what branch are you *cough* Air Force *cough* considering?

Marines FTW

If you have no interest in ever being in danger and just want free money for school join the Navy or Air Force.

If you want a chance to see combat and actually "go to war" then join the Marines or the Army.

Navy and Air Force are always "in the rear with the gear" :lol:

I'm with D3MO, don't do it. I have much respect for the troops but none for the war. I don't know what your thoughts are but I would never put myself in harms way fighting for a cause I did not believe in. But, maybe you do believe in the cause. Not my place to judge.GSU28

I don't believe in the cause, but I enlisted in the Army about a month ago. I didn't do it for the college money (like many do) or the many other great benefits that come with it, but I joined to help out my brothers and sisters fighting over there. I don't care if they joined for college money, or if they joined because they believed in the cause of the war, or even if they just wanted to be in the military. Point is, they are over there fighting and I wanted to help.

I do respect your opinion though, I'm glad you support the troops even though you don't like the war. The protesters with "Thank God for IED's" and "Thank God for Dead Soldiers" signs really piss me off...

But on topic, Just talk to your recruiter. He'll break you down. I've seen a few people at my station that are overweight and they make you exercise alot. Plus, (use this for motivation), if you pass a Physical Fitness Test before you leave, you will be promoted from an E-1 to an E-2. Not much, but its $200 more a month, your promoted, and you know you are in decent shape before you leave (not the best, but decent.)