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I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolPitaGriffin
Including yourself. Your reasoning is flawed. There isn't much of a reason to alienate people b/cthe vocal minority can be idiots. Iunderstand why people get so upset with religion, but attacking people for their religious difference is moronic.
[QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolsnackdaddy
Including yourself. Your reasoning is flawed. There isn't much of a reason to alienate people b/cthe vocal minority can be idiots. Iunderstand why people get so upset with religion, but attacking people for their religious difference is moronic.
Most religions alienate other religions.
[QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolsnackdaddy
Including yourself. Your reasoning is flawed. There isn't much of a reason to alienate people b/cthe vocal minority can be idiots. Iunderstand why people get so upset with religion, but attacking people for their religious difference is moronic.
I'm not attacking anyone. But if you look at it from a non-religious point of view, nothing makes sense and seems rediculous. How can people believe in their own god in their own religion when there's another religion right next to them believing in something totally different on the same subject? It seems that people just believe what they believe and stick to it, because they were brought up that way before.[QUOTE="PrimordialMeme"]I think the question is why a God would create a world with multiple religions.
MgamerBD
He didn't people did.
... You need to prove valid evidence, like The bible was created by men, the bible, is not Christianity though.
I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolPitaGriffinThat's the easy answer, certainly. "All of them" is another palatable option, though you'll have fundamentalists of all groups disagreeing with you fiercely either way.
[QUOTE="snackdaddy"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolPitaGriffin
Including yourself. Your reasoning is flawed. There isn't much of a reason to alienate people b/cthe vocal minority can be idiots. Iunderstand why people get so upset with religion, but attacking people for their religious difference is moronic.
I'm not attacking anyone. But if you look at it from a non-religious point of view, nothing makes sense and seems rediculous. How can people believe in their own god in their own religion when there's another religion right next to them believing in something totally different on the same subject?People have different opinions, view points, etc.. People are going to think differently. Religon's main purpose is to explain phenomenons, many which science can't answer.
[QUOTE="snackdaddy"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolLuminouslight
Including yourself. Your reasoning is flawed. There isn't much of a reason to alienate people b/cthe vocal minority can be idiots. Iunderstand why people get so upset with religion, but attacking people for their religious difference is moronic.
Most religions alienate other religions.
Yes some indeed do, but "most" is a bit too broad of a generalization. I have met plenty of people from plenty of different background and have carried on with them fine. I live in the Bible Belt of the US and like you said some religions definitely alienate other people, but again I say they are moronic.
[QUOTE="PitaGriffin"][QUOTE="snackdaddy"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolLuminouslight
Including yourself. Your reasoning is flawed. There isn't much of a reason to alienate people b/cthe vocal minority can be idiots. Iunderstand why people get so upset with religion, but attacking people for their religious difference is moronic.
I'm not attacking anyone. But if you look at it from a non-religious point of view, nothing makes sense and seems rediculous. How can people believe in their own god in their own religion when there's another religion right next to them believing in something totally different on the same subject?People have different opinions, view points, etc.. People are going to think differently. Religon's main purpose is to explain phenomenons, many which science can't answer.
I think the main reason it was created was to control masses of people back then.[QUOTE="Luminouslight"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"][QUOTE="snackdaddy"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolPitaGriffin
Including yourself. Your reasoning is flawed. There isn't much of a reason to alienate people b/cthe vocal minority can be idiots. Iunderstand why people get so upset with religion, but attacking people for their religious difference is moronic.
I'm not attacking anyone. But if you look at it from a non-religious point of view, nothing makes sense and seems rediculous. How can people believe in their own god in their own religion when there's another religion right next to them believing in something totally different on the same subject?People have different opinions, view points, etc.. People are going to think differently. Religon's main purpose is to explain phenomenons, many which science can't answer.
I think the main reason it was created was to control masses of people back then.That's what government is for.
[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="PrimordialMeme"]I think the question is why a God would create a world with multiple religions.
Luminouslight
He didn't people did.
... You need to prove valid evidence, like The bible was created by men, the bible, is not Christianity though.
Well the Jews created the bible and Juduism,then Christians took the same bible and added a new testaent creating Christianity. The Muslims then also took the bible and created the Quran. No matter what, these all relate to the same God doesn't it and is monothestic.
I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view,it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolPitaGriffin
[QUOTE="Luminouslight"][QUOTE="snackdaddy"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolsnackdaddy
Including yourself. Your reasoning is flawed. There isn't much of a reason to alienate people b/cthe vocal minority can be idiots. Iunderstand why people get so upset with religion, but attacking people for their religious difference is moronic.
Most religions alienate other religions.
Yes some indeed do, but "most" is a bit too broad of a generalization. I have met plenty of people from plenty of different background and have carried on with them fine. I live in the Bible Belt of the US and like you said some religions definitely alienate other people, but again I say they are moronic.
I never said indivisual people, I said religon as being the ideals of it (Considering they want to be the one that is right). People ranging in large amounts of religons are still friends with each other.
How does it not make sense that religions are different?
Different cultures just developed their own beliefs.
[QUOTE="PitaGriffin"][QUOTE="snackdaddy"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolLuminouslight
Including yourself. Your reasoning is flawed. There isn't much of a reason to alienate people b/cthe vocal minority can be idiots. Iunderstand why people get so upset with religion, but attacking people for their religious difference is moronic.
I'm not attacking anyone. But if you look at it from a non-religious point of view, nothing makes sense and seems rediculous. How can people believe in their own god in their own religion when there's another religion right next to them believing in something totally different on the same subject?People have different opinions, view points, etc.. People are going to think differently. Religon's main purpose is to explain phenomenons, many which science can't answer.
I agree with both of you completely. I, personally am notreligious, and I will agree that looking at it from a non-religious stance makes religion as a whole look very primative. It indeed doesn't make much sence. However, if a person or group of people need to hold a certain belief to understand the things around them that can not be explained by science that's fine. Religion has always served that purpose and always will. They also lay out commandments, edicts, tolms, etc.. to try and guild people to a more civilized and harmonious life. Sadly, people use those difference to alienate one another. Don't hate religion or a belief or an opinionhate the people that bastardize a faith and manipulate the system.
[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="PrimordialMeme"]I think the question is why a God would create a world with multiple religions.
Luminouslight
He didn't people did.
... You need to prove valid evidence, like The bible was created by men, the bible, is not Christianity though.
The bible is christianity to many christians. The protestant reformation was founded with the idea that the bible, the text itself was the focus of the religion.
You are the king of logic. Thanks for making us smarter by gracing us with you words.
:roll:
BranKetra
You're the queen of lacking knowledge :)
[QUOTE="Luminouslight"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"][QUOTE="snackdaddy"][QUOTE="PitaGriffin"]I believe in purely science and facts, and looking at it from my point of view, it doesn't make sense that different religions believe in different gods. If that's the case, then who's right? I think the answer is: no one. lolPitaGriffin
Including yourself. Your reasoning is flawed. There isn't much of a reason to alienate people b/cthe vocal minority can be idiots. Iunderstand why people get so upset with religion, but attacking people for their religious difference is moronic.
I'm not attacking anyone. But if you look at it from a non-religious point of view, nothing makes sense and seems rediculous. How can people believe in their own god in their own religion when there's another religion right next to them believing in something totally different on the same subject?People have different opinions, view points, etc.. People are going to think differently. Religon's main purpose is to explain phenomenons, many which science can't answer.
I think the main reason it was created was to control masses of people back then.I've been waiting for someone to use the "Control" card. Anyways, here's my response:
ControlSince one of the topics in this thread was about religious control, I thought I would dig up a few quotes I read a while back in a debunking Zeitgeist thread (if your interested in checking it out, its here: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=98970. Good read).
[QUOTE="sefrzan"][QUOTE="Doctor_Who"]For those of you who believe that most or all religions are corrupt, I ask you then, what do you believe is the real purpose of religion?Ezgam3r
The 2 responses:
While I agree that the purpose of most religious organizations is to control the masses in a sense, you will notice, however, with a bit of historical research, that religious texts such as the bible are not just some ridiculous fabricated stories. AND, Zeitgeist, as proven earlier in this thread, uses many inaccurate claims as well, so it is not something one can place their trust in either.
I myself have experience with religious organizations that tend to exercise much power and control over people's lives, and I know now what to trust and what not to trust. Zeitgeist does not make many claims against any particular organization but the religious stories themselves.
And as for faith that such-and-such texts are God's holy word, well thats for the person to decide. Whether they believe so or not is not going to harm society unless they decide to "control" others.The-Doctor
And:
How, by whom and for what purpose ? This might make sense when dealing with a religion that has a clear hierarchical power structure, but not all religions have such a structure. In fact, one of the problems with Islam is that it lacks any formal power structure that could control its radical extremes.Many protestants churches have a very democratic power structure (which was historically an important factor in the emergence of democracy in Europe and the US.) How does "control" fit as a purpose of these groups? Applied to specific groups and individuals, "control" might be a good explanation, but as a blanket explanation, it fails miserably.Elgin
Well?
I think the question is why a God would create a world with multiple religions.PrimordialMeme
Exgam3r, Christianity was at its height during the dark ages, when there was no strong central government in Europe. Religion was the main form of "government" then.
And as for Islam, religion is definately used to control people. What rights do women have, or men to practice anything other than what is allowed in the Koran?
I want to know what all religions seem to want you to serve a god...
Why can't the god serve me?!?
HUH??!!
HE'S got all that power after all...
Why break the backs of the little guys??!?
[QUOTE="PrimordialMeme"]I think the question is why a God would create a world with multiple religions.
MgamerBD
He didn't people did.
The common definition of God is an a divine, omnipotent being.Religion Definition: "A religion is a set of common beliefs and practices generally held by a group of people, often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law. Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and mystic experience. The term "religion" refers to both the personal practices related to communal faith and to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction." You could almost break that down to social behaviors of groups of people. Thus hopefully we are all religious in some way... Such a false pretense to believe religion requires a belief in 'God(s)'. Some people have a belief in science or things they have observed, others in the unknown / unseen / feelings. With the science of quantom mechanics and such we are learning even more about the true intracasies of what we have been witnessing this whole time. Some day I hope humans find out what is really going on... Until then hopefully we can all respect each others views and stay alive.raahsnavjWell, some views are wrong. Like your saying religion is just social behavior. It necessarily includes an element of mysticism. Were religion only a discipline, it would be a discipline, not religion. Social behavior isn't even necessarily all encompassing of one ethnic group. Obviously you can be religious and still believe in science, or else you'd probably not be on a computer.
Christianity, Catholic, Judiasm, Muslim, all believe in the same god, but......Christians believe Jesus(peace be upon him)was the messiah, and Muhommad(peace be upon him)was a prophet. And Muslims believe Muhommad(peace be upon him)was the messiah, and Jeus(peace be upon him)was a prophet. Jews are still waiting for their messiah, and i think they believe both Jesus and Muhommad(peace be upon them)were prophets.haggard_korn
Muhammad isn't a recognized prophet in either Christian or Jewish doctrine. In Christianity he is at first seen as a misguided preacher but is then viewed as the Anti-Christ or Satan.
In Judaism Muhammad was referred to as a madman and Jesus was nobody special.
[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]Religion Definition: "A religion is a set of common beliefs and practices generally held by a group of people, often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law. Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and mystic experience. The term "religion" refers to both the personal practices related to communal faith and to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction." You could almost break that down to social behaviors of groups of people. Thus hopefully we are all religious in some way... Such a false pretense to believe religion requires a belief in 'God(s)'. Some people have a belief in science or things they have observed, others in the unknown / unseen / feelings. With the science of quantom mechanics and such we are learning even more about the true intracasies of what we have been witnessing this whole time. Some day I hope humans find out what is really going on... Until then hopefully we can all respect each others views and stay alive.quiglythegreatWell, some views are wrong. Like your saying religion is just social behavior. It necessarily includes an element of mysticism. Were religion only a discipline, it would be a discipline, not religion. Social behavior isn't even necessarily all encompassing of one ethnic group. Obviously you can be religious and still believe in science, or else you'd probably not be on a computer.
Christianity, Catholic, Judiasm, Muslim, all believe in the same god, but......Christians believe Jesus(peace be upon him)was the messiah, and Muhommad(peace be upon him)was a prophet. And Muslims believe Muhommad(peace be upon him)was the messiah, and Jeus(peace be upon him)was a prophet. Jews are still waiting for their messiah, and i think they believe both Jesus and Muhommad(peace be upon them)were prophets.haggard_korn
-A correction: Muslims don't believe that Mohamed was a messiah, but we do believe that Mohamed as well as Jesus were prophets.
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