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#1 Dead-Memories
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... I wouldn't be paraplegic and poor - Random beggar on the street.

instead of developing any sort of argument that is going to be butchered and spat; tldr by my the ministers of faith, I'll let the idea gather momentum

what would you tell the beggar

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#2 cd_rom
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God hates you.
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God hates you.cd_rom
ouch.
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#4 Dead-Memories
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God hates you.cd_rom
did he do something in a previous lifetime or something? why does god direct hate toward certain people then?
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#5 xTheExploited
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God works in mysterious ways, hurr hurr hurr.
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#6 deactivated-6016e81e8e30f
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Satan pays pretty good, y'know.
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#7 mrmusicman247
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You know maybe its not God, maybe its Satan. I hear he's an old friend of God's who had a falling out.
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#8 CRS98
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"They lied to you about god. He doesn't interfere."
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#9 Dead-Memories
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You know maybe its not God, maybe its Satan. I hear he's an old friend of God's who had a falling out. mrmusicman247
satan is synonymouswith evil, this beggar certainly is not an evil person,

just down on his luck.

isn't that where the god comes in?

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#10 cd_rom
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[QUOTE="cd_rom"]God hates you.Dead-Memories
did he do something in a previous lifetime or something? why does god direct hate toward certain people then?

Or an alternate approach, God doesn't care about anyone.
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#11 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]You know maybe its not God, maybe its Satan. I hear he's an old friend of God's who had a falling out. Dead-Memories

satan is synonymouswith evil, this beggar certainly is not an evil person,

just down on his luck.

isn't that where the god comes in?

So you're saying Satan only affects people who are evil?
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#12 harashawn
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Who says God has anything to do with it? **** happens.
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#13 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]You know maybe its not God, maybe its Satan. I hear he's an old friend of God's who had a falling out. mrmusicman247

satan is synonymouswith evil, this beggar certainly is not an evil person,

just down on his luck.

isn't that where the god comes in?

So you're saying Satan only affects people who are evil?

thats the logic that is evident in my theology classes, etc.
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#14 cybrcatter
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... I wouldn't be paraplegic and poor - Random beggar on the street.

instead of developing any sort of argument that is going to be butchered and spat; tldr by my the ministers of faith, I'll let the idea gather momentum

what would you tell the beggar

Dead-Memories

God is a troll, son, and he d'un trolled you good! :lol:

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#15 Dead-Memories
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Who says God has anything to do with it? **** happens.harashawn
so he isn't capable of helping the beggar then?
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#16 foxhound_fox
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Then it is clear God doesn't exist, or doesn't care you exist.

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#17 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] satan is synonymouswith evil, this beggar certainly is not an evil person,

just down on his luck.

isn't that where the god comes in?

Dead-Memories

So you're saying Satan only affects people who are evil?

thats the logic that is evident in my theology classes, etc.

Well that's not true..but then again what else should you expect from theology classes..

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#18 Bluestorm-Kalas
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I'd tell the beggar in the street to not let an invisible man in the sky dictate his life, for good or worse.

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#19 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] So you're saying Satan only affects people who are evil?mrmusicman247

thats the logic that is evident in my theology classes, etc.

Well that's not true..but then again what else should you expect from theology classes..

Chirst exceeds in charity, God exceeds in charity, the beggar is in need of charity. A better example of use to see satan at work perhaps is the case of Charles Manson, or even Hitler this beggar is clearly not one of those cases.
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#20 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

... I wouldn't be paraplegic and poor - Random beggar on the street.

instead of developing any sort of argument that is going to be butchered and spat; tldr by my the ministers of faith, I'll let the idea gather momentum

what would you tell the beggar

cybrcatter

God is a troll, son, and he d'un trolled you good! :lol:

the internet is a wonderful place :lol:
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#22 harashawn
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[QUOTE="harashawn"]Who says God has anything to do with it? **** happens.Dead-Memories
so he isn't capable of helping the beggar then?

If God helped that beggar, then who's to say He wouldn't have to help every beggar, soon everyone would be asking God to help them with everything, people would become completely reliant on God and do nothing for themselves.
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#23 Mogotoo
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"Who are you to judge God? And how do you know He doesn't have something great planned for you later on?"

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#24 lloveLamp
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[QUOTE="cd_rom"]God hates you.Dead-Memories
did he do something in a previous lifetime or something? why does god direct hate toward certain people then?

all that baby killin' in his previous life made god and jesus angry
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#25 Theokhoth
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Am I the only one who has no idea what the topic's about?
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#26 Mogotoo
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Am I the only one who has no idea what the topic's about?Theokhoth
It's a hypothetical situation, I think. You see a beggar who states the OP. The question is this: how do you respond?

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#27 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Am I the only one who has no idea what the topic's about?Mogotoo

It's a hypothetical situation, I think. You see a beggar who states the OP. The question is this: how do you respond?

Oh. I'd tell him Joseph spent twenty years in prison for a crime he didn't commit, John was the only apostle that didn't die a miserably painful death (and even he spent years in exile), and Jesus was whipped and nailed to a tree. Since when did anybody say God's gonna make sure you're not homeless?
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#29 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Mogotoo"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Am I the only one who has no idea what the topic's about?Theokhoth

It's a hypothetical situation, I think. You see a beggar who states the OP. The question is this: how do you respond?

Oh. I'd tell him Joseph spent twenty years in prison for a crime he didn't commit, John was the only apostle that didn't die a miserably painful death (and even he spent years in exile), and Jesus was whipped and nailed to a tree. Since when did anybody say God's gonna make sure you're not homeless?

Oh, i see. so god doesn't care anymore?

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#31 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Mogotoo"]It's a hypothetical situation, I think. You see a beggar who states the OP. The question is this: how do you respond?

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Oh. I'd tell him Joseph spent twenty years in prison for a crime he didn't commit, John was the only apostle that didn't die a miserably painful death (and even he spent years in exile), and Jesus was whipped and nailed to a tree. Since when did anybody say God's gonna make sure you're not homeless?

Oh, i see. so god doesn't care anymore?

No; that the idea that if God cares you wouldn't have problems kinda contradicts everything in the Bible and is pretty much a strawman.
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#32 theuncharted34
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How did he become poor? by being lazy? or did he try his best to be successful?

Also if he is paraplegic he would just get a dissability check.

no more begging, the government has your back! :P

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#33 DJ-Lafleur
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I'd just give him some money for some booze and shut the beggar up.

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#34 M3ran
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if i tell you that human materialistic power to cure mostly known as doctors are all wrong and there is somthing that can cure all,even the begger or even the dead,then you would start to think wouldnt you???materialistic humans will think materialistic,think about it
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#35 M3ran
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yeah true i have to agree to this one here.makes sence,but to blame it all on god is just pure funny to me.
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#36 M3ran
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no your not,just write a comment to support god:P:P:P
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#37 cybrcatter
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if i tell you that human materialistic power to cure mostly known as doctors are all wrong and there is somthing that can cure all,even the begger or even the dead,then you would start to think wouldnt you???materialistic humans will think materialistic,think about itM3ran
yeah true i have to agree to this one here.makes sence,but to blame it all on god is just pure funny to me.M3ran
no your not,just write a comment to support god:P:P:PM3ran
Whatcha doin' here, champ?

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#38 Vandalvideo
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Am I the only one who has no idea what the topic's about?Theokhoth
It is a very weak version of the Problem of Evils. PS: And someone already got the right answer.
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#39 MystikFollower
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If God exists it's pretty likely he doesn't give a rat's ass about our little petty personal lives that we all feel is so God-damned special and important. I think if God is there, he's just sat the ball rolling on existence and is not interfering at all. He's letting the Universe play out completely to the laws of nature, such as gravity and Cause and Effect.

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#40 dracula_16
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He seems like he already made up his mind, so I'd just nod and walk away.

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I would tell the beggar to stop begging and get his ass to work. God has nothing to do with people being bums.
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#42 jak275
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I'd say that if he wants to have God's help, he has to start to help himself first.
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#43 MystikFollower
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I'd say that if he wants to have God's help, he has to start to help himself first.jak275

lol God help? God has never "helped" anyone. **** just happens to us, some good, some bad. Ultimately it ends bad with each of our deaths, and then who's to say what God has in store. But God does not "help" anyone in this physical existence I don't think.

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#44 magiciandude
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Explain why the existence of a deity depends on the condition of a beggar.

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#45 RobboElRobbo
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Get a job

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#46 parkurtommo
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That doesn't really make much sense; the beggar is poor and in his state because he or his family did not try to put him in school, or if he did go to school it's probably cause he took to much drugs. I know this seems a bit cold but really; the beggar is their because of some sort of human action. By the way: If god existed, where would he be sitting? How can god exist when many cultures do not accept such an idea when many western countries do? I bet that beggar is there because of someone on earth and not some wierd unprooved being.

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I would tell the beggar to stop begging and get his ass to work. God has nothing to do with people being bums.GazaAli
But he's paraplegic lol...
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#48 foxhound_fox
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I would tell the beggar to stop begging and get his ass to work. God has nothing to do with people being bums.GazaAli

How very... un-Muslim of you. I thought the poverty-stricken were of the upmost importance when it comes to generosity?

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#49 DudeNtheRoom
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"They lied to you about god. He doesn't interfere."CRS98
I love when something bad happens they say "God does not interfere"......then "when something good happens "its a miracle" or something. Selective praising.
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[QUOTE="CRS98"]"They lied to you about god. He doesn't interfere."DudeNtheRoom
I love when something bad happens they say "God does not interfere"......then "when something good happens "its a miracle" or something. Selective praising.

Well of course religions want you to be a loyal worshiper by talking up the good stuff and backing it up with repercussions of not following the faith eg Hell.