If god is real he should be feared more than loved.

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#1 The_Moo_Man
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I say this because first of all, a lot of miracles seem to happen, but only to strong christian believers. A person will get advice from god and get out of harms way but thousands of people are starving and dying who are not christian. So basically, IF god is real, he only helps those who worship him, hardly the "Pure most righteous being" that people claim he is. so if this is true, then he wouldnt have the slightest problem throwing your ass in hell for all eternity cuz u werent baptized or something. which is why i dont really like god, real or not.

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Yeah. If god is real I don't like him so much. I know it's all to do with free will but standing by and watching while all the terrible things on this earth have happened when he could have done something is cold.
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Well if there is a god that is omnipotent don't you think that we in comparison to him/her/it  would be like ants are to us..Do we go out of our way to help ants? So to answer your question no I wouldn't fear him/her/it unless I was under it/her/his foot. 
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Well if there is a god that is omnipotent don't you think that we in comparison to him/her/it  would be like ants are to us..Do we go out of our way to help ants? So to answer your question no I wouldn't fear him/her/it unless I was under it/her/his foot. DanBrim1

hehe true but that means eh aint as righteous as they say
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Man you might aswell close this thread....lol

Miracles happen to people everyday, to ALL KINDS of people, believers or not, its how you interpret the miracle and whether you believe in it makes people like me and you know about it. Say for example a strong christian believer has a deadly sickness and doctors say he wont live another day, his family prays for him and he becomes healthy.

If the same thing happened to a non believer without the prayer or with, do you think he would tell us all "ohhhh im alive its a miracle" and report it to the news or whatever.

This is why in many cases you see people start to believe in God after they have a mircale happen to them.

 

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[QUOTE="DanBrim1"]Well if there is a god that is omnipotent don't you think that we in comparison to him/her/it  would be like ants are to us..Do we go out of our way to help ants? So to answer your question no I wouldn't fear him/her/it unless I was under it/her/his foot. The_Moo_Man

hehe true but that means eh aint as righteous as they say

Well if he/her/it created all life I guess that would be righteous as I believe creating is alway better then destroying ...

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...Why would it care in the first place?...
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I say this because first of all, a lot of miracles seem to happen, but only to strong christian believers. A person will get advice from god and get out of harms way but thousands of people are starving and dying who are not christian. So basically, IF god is real, he only helps those who worship him, hardly the "Pure most righteous being" that people claim he is. so if this is true, then he wouldnt have the slightest problem throwing your ass in hell for all eternity cuz u werent baptized or something. which is why i dont really like god, real or not.

The_Moo_Man

God lets these things happen because we have freewill, he does not interfere with us.  Occasionally, he does perform miracles, and no it isn't always for Christians, but keep in mind this is very rare.  in fact, I know of specific one but I need to find out more about it before I say anything.  God does not solve all of our problems, we need to solve them ourselves.  God doesn't throw you in hell, you are responsible for your own actions, not God.  Man, people need to stop judging things if they do not know all of the facts first.

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[QUOTE="The_Moo_Man"]

I say this because first of all, a lot of miracles seem to happen, but only to strong christian believers. A person will get advice from god and get out of harms way but thousands of people are starving and dying who are not christian. So basically, IF god is real, he only helps those who worship him, hardly the "Pure most righteous being" that people claim he is. so if this is true, then he wouldnt have the slightest problem throwing your ass in hell for all eternity cuz u werent baptized or something. which is why i dont really like god, real or not.

jackelhunter

God lets these things happen because we have freewill, he does not interfere with us.  Occasionally, he does perform miracles, and no it isn't always for Christians, but keep in mind this is very rare.  in fact, I know of specific one but I need to find out more about it before I say anything.  God does not solve all of our problems, we need to solve them ourselves.  God doesn't throw you in hell, you are responsible for your own actions, not God.  Man, people need to stop judging things if they do not know all of the facts first.

Nicely said, also look at it this way, if he interfered in or lives, how could HE judge us?

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i concur.
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#11 serbsta69
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Yeha im getting tired of these threads, let it be.
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#12 Avitu666
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Aye, lock this thread please.

I'm tired of seeing these religion threads all the time.

People who want to believe, will believe and can't be convinced god doesn't exist.

People who don't want to believe, won't believe and can't be convinced god exists.

 

Personnally, I'm anti-religious, and these rare "miracles" are actually coincidences, nothing more 

 

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#13 serbsta69
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Aye, lock this thread please.

I'm tired of seeing these religion threads all the time.

People who want to believe, will believe and can't be convinced god doesn't exist.

People who don't want to believe, won't believe and can't be convinced god exists.

 

Personnally, I'm anti-religious, and these rare "miracles" are actually coincidences, nothing more 

 

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I agree with you on the first part.

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#14 The_Moo_Man
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Aye, lock this thread please.

I'm tired of seeing these religion threads all the time.

People who want to believe, will believe and can't be convinced god doesn't exist.

People who don't want to believe, won't believe and can't be convinced god exists.

 

Personnally, I'm anti-religious, and these rare "miracles" are actually coincidences, nothing more 

 

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you think YOURE tired of these religion threads? lol youre only lvl 13 IT HAS ONLY BEGUN
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#15 Kook18
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you make lots of threads Moo_Man
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#16 serbsta69
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[QUOTE="Avitu666"]

Aye, lock this thread please.

I'm tired of seeing these religion threads all the time.

People who want to believe, will believe and can't be convinced god doesn't exist.

People who don't want to believe, won't believe and can't be convinced god exists.

 

Personnally, I'm anti-religious, and these rare "miracles" are actually coincidences, nothing more 

 

The_Moo_Man


you think YOURE tired of these religion threads? lol youre only lvl 13 IT HAS ONLY BEGUN

Lol yeah, especially that believe in science or god thread.

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#17 Avitu666
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Well, these threads do give us some comical relief at times, but for comical relief I prefer Areyoumad's conspiracy theory threads :)
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#18 serbsta69
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Well, these threads do give us some comical relief at times, but for comical relief I prefer Areyoumad's conspiracy theory threads :)
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Yes, ive seen a couple of his.

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If god is real then I am going to hell anyways so he can (insert rude comment here)
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#20 Kook18
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If god is real then I am going to hell anyways so he can (insert rude comment here)double_decker
oh lawd now you're making me guess?
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#21 deactivated-608cb95043897
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If god is real then I am going to hell anyways so he can (insert rude comment here)double_decker

Not if your jewish I don't believe they have a hell...So just convert...

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oh lawd now you're making me guess? Kook18
It's Moddable if that helps:P
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Not if your jewish I don't believe they have a hell...So just convert...

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How convenient just like most religions
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#24 NextGenNow
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God person: GOD IS REAL!! teh internetz must be saved!!11!1!!!1

Atheist Person: God is fake!! teh internetz must know!! I must say it 213242341234 times!! EVERYONE must know God is teh fake!!!

Me: lOL!! noobZ!!!1!!1!11! cyborg raptor Jesus is life....:twisted:

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God person: GOD IS REAL!! teh internetz must be saved!!11!1!!!1

Atheist Person: God is fake!! teh internetz must know!! I must say it 213242341234 times!! EVERYONE must know God is teh fake!!!

Me: lOL!! noobZ!!!1!!1!11! cyborg raptor Jesus is life....:twisted:

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[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

God person: GOD IS REAL!! teh internetz must be saved!!11!1!!!1

Atheist Person: God is fake!! teh internetz must know!! I must say it 213242341234 times!! EVERYONE must know God is teh fake!!!

Me: lOL!! noobZ!!!1!!1!11! cyborg raptor Jesus is life....:twisted:

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Yeah...dont forget those pills next time.

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Agreed. But if god is real and he's looking for love, I'm not gonna disagree with him. He's pretty frickin' powerful, you know.
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#28 Generic_Dude
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[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

God person: GOD IS REAL!! teh internetz must be saved!!11!1!!!1

Atheist Person: God is fake!! teh internetz must know!! I must say it 213242341234 times!! EVERYONE must know God is teh fake!!!

Me: lOL!! noobZ!!!1!!1!11! cyborg raptor Jesus is life....:twisted:

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Someone didn't take his pills this morning...

On the contrary, I think he took too much. 

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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/forums/show_topics.php?board_id=909105703&union_id=344

Enjoy. 

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#30 Link256
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Why is that God has to be necessarily responsible for "miracles"?

In regards to the other stuff, as silly as this may sound (take what I am about to say with "grain of salt"), I think the movie of "Oh, God!" offers some "interesting" perspective:

Jerry Landers: If you're God, how can You permit all the suffering that goes on in the world?
God: I don't permit the suffering - you do.

Jerry Landers: People are always praying to You. Do You listen?
God: I can't help hearing. I don't always listen.
Jerry Landers: So then You don't care.
God: Of course I care! But what can I do?
Jerry Landers: What can You do? You're God!
God: Only for the big picture. I don't get into details.

God: I'm not sure how this whole miracle business started, the idea that anything connected with me has to be a miracle. Personally I'm sorry that it did. Makes the distance between us even greater.

 

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Many african Nations are Christian and there starving! This post is pointless! Many Asian Nations arnt christian and there not starving

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God's an attention whore. When he receives attention, he does his best to help whoever is worshipping him out.
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But...He wants us to love Him, because He loves us!  ^_^
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[QUOTE="jackelhunter"][QUOTE="The_Moo_Man"]

I say this because first of all, a lot of miracles seem to happen, but only to strong christian believers. A person will get advice from god and get out of harms way but thousands of people are starving and dying who are not christian. So basically, IF god is real, he only helps those who worship him, hardly the "Pure most righteous being" that people claim he is. so if this is true, then he wouldnt have the slightest problem throwing your ass in hell for all eternity cuz u werent baptized or something. which is why i dont really like god, real or not.

serbsta69

God lets these things happen because we have freewill, he does not interfere with us.  Occasionally, he does perform miracles, and no it isn't always for Christians, but keep in mind this is very rare.  in fact, I know of specific one but I need to find out more about it before I say anything.  God does not solve all of our problems, we need to solve them ourselves.  God doesn't throw you in hell, you are responsible for your own actions, not God.  Man, people need to stop judging things if they do not know all of the facts first.

Nicely said, also look at it this way, if he interfered in or lives, how could HE judge us?

Oh man, I know I shouldn't get into this pointless discussions, but after reading that I just had to ask:

WHY does he have to judge us in the first place? What does ANYONE gain with that? If he gave us free will, then why not let us use it? There's other ways to be "good" other than his rules, you know.

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#35 Generic_Dude
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One thing I will say is that, according to The Bible, we do not live in Eden (read: Paradise) because we used our Free Will to betray God. God gave this Free Will TO us, with -- because he is omnipotent -- FULL KNOWLEDGE that we would go against His wishes and be removed from Paradise. A pretty sadistic move, if you ask me.
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I disagree
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I don't understand your logic.
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If god were real I'd cut his head off with a butcher knife.