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#1 -TheSecondSign-
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Who would ally with them?

Doesn't an independent nation need allies?

Who would ally with an independent country of Texas?

I can't really see anybody near them doing that if they left the US.

Also, how long do you think they'd last on their own?

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#2 carrot-cake
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Wouldn't last very long, I don't know who would ally with them and I dont know what they would do about currency, trade laws, etc.

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#3 sexy-hippo
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I would cry tears of happiness.

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#4 GHlegend77
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I'd move to Texas. ... =3
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#5 clyde46
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Isnt Texan landlocked?

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#6 Serraph105
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Who would ally with them?

Doesn't an independent nation need allies?

Who would ally with an independent country of Texas?

I can't really see anybody near them doing that if they left the US.

Also, how long do you think they'd last on their own?

-TheSecondSign-

I don't see them getting any allies. Don't really have a reason for it it just doesn't seem like anybody would jump on that. Also I don't think they would last long. If America didn't put it's foot down and instead simply boycotted them moral would sink really fast. There are a lot of products that come from the US not made by Texas. Maybe 6 months.

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#7 deactivated-5f1dda6571ed7
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id prob move there
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#8 hoopking92
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Id actually see them flourishing nicely. Texas right seems to be the only state flourishing in the past 10 years while the U.S. economy is down.

If they do secede they'd have a lot of minerals and resources to trade with such as oil. The only problem would be protecting the borders.

If the U.S. does plunge deeper into the hole, i think the question of secession might need greater tought.

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#9 CommanderShiro
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Isnt Texan landlocked?

clyde46

No, Texas borders the Gulf of Mexico.

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#10 Serraph105
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for the record though, they won't secede.

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#11 jun_aka_pekto
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Mexico would probably want it back.

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I think as far as allies go Texas would have but some (probably limited) trading partners.

It could last on it's own, but not nearly at the level of success or comfort as it would in the union.

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#13 Espada12
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I'd go there, cause texas is awesome! I'd have to avoid the lynching areas being black and all but meh.. I'll stay in houston.

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#14 sexy-hippo
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for the record though, they won't secede.

Serraph105
For the record though, I hope they do secede.
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#15 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

for the record though, they won't secede.

sexy-hippo
For the record though, I hope they do secede.

uh............why?
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#16 hoopking92
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I'd go there, cause texas is awesome! I'd have to avoid the lynching areas being black and all but meh.. I'll stay in houston.

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Houston's the best!

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#17 Darkainious
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I bet they would take a bunch of states with them. Like Oklahoma and Arizona and Utah and Idaho. Possibly even more. Then they would take over new mexico and colorado!

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#18 sexy-hippo
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I'd go there, cause texas is awesome! I'd have to avoid the lynching areas being black and all but meh.. I'll stay in houston.

Espada12
Dude! I knew a guy from Texas who would tell us about Klan owned "Koffee shops" and signs with racial slurs telling black people to stay out.
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**waits for rawsavon.....**
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#20 sexy-hippo
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I bet they would take a bunch of states with them. Like Oklahoma and Arizona and Utah and Idaho. Possibly even more. Then they would take over new mexico and colorado!

Darkainious
Don't even joke. I don't want to be part of Texas's country. I'm from Oklahoma. I would move or kill myself. Probly move.
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Maybe Mexico would be an ally?
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#22 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"]

I bet they would take a bunch of states with them. Like Oklahoma and Arizona and Utah and Idaho. Possibly even more. Then they would take over new mexico and colorado!

sexy-hippo

Don't even joke. I don't want to be part of Texas's country. I'm from Oklahoma. I would move or kill myself. Probly move.

Thaaat's right. Okies and Texans don't get along too well. :lol:

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#23 sexy-hippo
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="sexy-hippo"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

for the record though, they won't secede.

For the record though, I hope they do secede.

uh............why?

I don't like Texas. They make us look bad. They tried to make money on our river. The Red River. Oklahoma owns the entire thing. They opened toll bridges. Someone went down there and shot someone and long story short we got free bridges that they have to pay to maintainhalf of.
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#24 testfactor888
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[QUOTE="GHlegend77"]I'd move to Texas. ... =3

same
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#25 elblanquito_81
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I'd give Texas about 3 months on its own before Mexico makes a play for it. That's if the drug cartels don't do it first and make it their own little drug-running paradise.

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#26 Darkainious
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[QUOTE="sexy-hippo"][QUOTE="Darkainious"]

I bet they would take a bunch of states with them. Like Oklahoma and Arizona and Utah and Idaho. Possibly even more. Then they would take over new mexico and colorado!

jun_aka_pekto

Don't even joke. I don't want to be part of Texas's country. I'm from Oklahoma. I would move or kill myself. Probly move.

Thaaat's right. Okies and Texans don't get along too well. :lol:

I was talking mainly about mutual political values.
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#27 bachilders
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I would move to Texas if they seceded unless Tennessee joined them. :D

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#28 sexy-hippo
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Don't even joke. I don't want to be part of Texas's country. I'm from Oklahoma. I would move or kill myself. Probly move.sexy-hippo

Thaaat's right. Okies and Texans don't get along too well. :lol:

I was talking mainly about mutual political values.

Sadly.
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Well, if Texas were to become its own country, it would be one of the Top 50 most populated countries in the world.

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#30 sexy-hippo
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Well, if Texas were to become its own country, it would be one of the Top 50 most populated countries in the world.

swamprat_basic

It would also have one of the lowest IQs.

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#31 194197844077667059316682358889
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If Texas seceded, I'd have to get my passport stamped when I booty called rawsavon :o
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#32 LoseEagles1245
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If Texas seceded, whoever was President would not allow it to happen. The Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force would squash the rebellion within a few weeks, if not days. This is one of the dumbest ideas ever. The President wouldn't allow another Civil War to occur.
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#33 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="sexy-hippo"][QUOTE="Serraph105"]

for the record though, they won't secede.

Serraph105

For the record though, I hope they do secede.

uh............why?

i agree with sexy-hippo. their my least favorite state.

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#34 NuclearFlower
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[QUOTE="swamprat_basic"]

Well, if Texas were to become its own country, it would be one of the Top 50 most populated countries in the world.

sexy-hippo

It would also have one of the lowest IQs.

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We'd probably see Texan Terrorists show up in the headlines.
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If Texas seceded, whoever was President would not allow it to happen. The Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force would squash the rebellion within a few weeks, if not days. This is one of the dumbest ideas ever. The President wouldn't allow another Civil War to occur.LoseEagles1245
Who said it would lead to a war? Couldn't they just sucede without war? I would let them go if I was president.
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#38 fidosim
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I bet they would take a bunch of states with them. Like Oklahoma and Arizona and Utah and Idaho. Possibly even more. Then they would take over new mexico and colorado!

Darkainious
As a Coloradoan, I, for one, would welcome our new Texan overlords.
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[QUOTE="Darkainious"]

I bet they would take a bunch of states with them. Like Oklahoma and Arizona and Utah and Idaho. Possibly even more. Then they would take over new mexico and colorado!

fidosim

As a Coloradoan, I, for one, would welcome our new Texan overlords.

Your going to welcome them? their going to banned strips clubs! STRIP CLUBS!

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Texas is the only 'state' in the U.S. to kick another country's ass on its own. It is also the only 'state' that ever was a country on its own.
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[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"]If Texas seceded, whoever was President would not allow it to happen. The Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force would squash the rebellion within a few weeks, if not days. This is one of the dumbest ideas ever. The President wouldn't allow another Civil War to occur.sexy-hippo
Who said it would lead to a war? Couldn't they just sucede without war? I would let them go if I was president.

That's why your not president. No President in his right mind be he Democrat or Republican would willingly let any state secede without a fight.
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[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"]If Texas seceded, whoever was President would not allow it to happen. The Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force would squash the rebellion within a few weeks, if not days. This is one of the dumbest ideas ever. The President wouldn't allow another Civil War to occur.sexy-hippo
Who said it would lead to a war? Couldn't they just sucede without war? I would let them go if I was president.

Common sense. The federal government wouldn't let a state succeed no matter what. We're well past that time in our history.

Heck, you couldn't even due it confederate style either, with dozens of states succeeding. Why? Because no state militia would be able to challenge the federal government.

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If Texas seceded, whoever was President would not allow it to happen. The Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force would squash the rebellion within a few weeks, if not days. This is one of the dumbest ideas ever. The President wouldn't allow another Civil War to occur.LoseEagles1245

Wouldn't that be the worst thing the President of the USA could do? I mean, if the people of Texas voted overwhelmingly to be separated and the US President didn't allow it, that would be showing truly that he couldn't give a **** about what the people want and he is all about power.

If Texas want to be a separate country let them do it. As long as it is done in a democratic manner (i.e. vote passed by the people and the government) it should be allowed.

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[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"]If Texas seceded, whoever was President would not allow it to happen. The Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force would squash the rebellion within a few weeks, if not days. This is one of the dumbest ideas ever. The President wouldn't allow another Civil War to occur.daqua_99

Wouldn't that be the worst thing the President of the USA could do? I mean, if the people of Texas voted overwhelmingly to be separated and the US President didn't allow it, that would be showing truly that he couldn't give a **** about what the people want and he is all about power.

If Texas want to be a separate country let them do it. As long as it is done in a democratic manner (i.e. vote passed by the people and the government) it should be allowed.

You mean like how federal laws trump state laws today?
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[QUOTE="LoseEagles1245"]If Texas seceded, whoever was President would not allow it to happen. The Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force would squash the rebellion within a few weeks, if not days. This is one of the dumbest ideas ever. The President wouldn't allow another Civil War to occur.daqua_99

Wouldn't that be the worst thing the President of the USA could do? I mean, if the people of Texas voted overwhelmingly to be separated and the US President didn't allow it, that would be showing truly that he couldn't give a **** about what the people want and he is all about power.

If Texas want to be a separate country let them do it. As long as it is done in a democratic manner (i.e. vote passed by the people and the government) it should be allowed.

So your saying all the Southern States before the Civil War started should have been just allowed to leave because their state governments voted for secession, and most of their citizens supported it?
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#46 deactivated-5857b4a04988e
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Actually, Texas by itself would be pretty successful. And the US will hurt a lot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_(nominal)

This is a link on the GDP of individual states in the United States. As you can see, Texas constitutes the second largest GDP of any state in the Union (behind California). It would also have the 13th highest GDP in the world if independent, ahead of Australia, Mexico, South Korea, etc, and just behind the Russian Federation. It'll also be the4th largest economy on both American continents.

Basically, Texas represents 8% of the GDP of the United States. Also, with its reserves of oil and its location along the Mexican-US border and the Gulf of Mexico makes it ideal as a location for trade. So, an independent Texas will by a significant power anyway one looks at it.

Edit: Although this kind of highlights the obscene power of the United States. Even if the US is broken up into smaller units, each one still has enough wealth and industry to be a significant player in the world economy.

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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Darkainious"]

I bet they would take a bunch of states with them. Like Oklahoma and Arizona and Utah and Idaho. Possibly even more. Then they would take over new mexico and colorado!

As a Coloradoan, I, for one, would welcome our new Texan overlords.

Your going to welcome them? their going to banned strips clubs! STRIP CLUBS!

I just died a little. I actually agree with Texas on that.
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Ban strip clubs? I live in San Antonio and we've got dozens of strip clubs scattered around the city.
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#49 juden41
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Then the Dallas Cowboys would be the best team in the nation. (depends which nation you're talking about ;))
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#50 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]

are As a Coloradoan, I, for one, would welcome our new Texan overlords. sexy-hippo

Your going to welcome them? their going to banned strips clubs! STRIP CLUBS!

I just died a little. I actually agree with Texas on that.

there going to get rid of pornography. ban anal and oral sex. and outstrips clubs! how can one agreee with that. who doesnt love oral and anal sex?