If the Roman Empire and the Norse Vikings went to war, who would win?

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#1 coolbeans90
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Hey everybody at GameSpot Off-Topic. If the the Roman Empire in it's heyday were to go to war with the Norse Vikings when they were professional pillagers, who do you think would win?

The Roman Empire probably had a military advantage on in the Field, but the Vikings didn't use conventional tactics that the Romans usually fought.

Sure, neither side has nukes, but they both had gods. Does M.A.D. apply, in this case? I think that the Romans had a bigger god stockpile than the Norse, but the Norse's had longer range, and were more powerful. So, the god-gap doesn't matter. (no I haven't got a source for that one.)

So, my money is on the Romans without gods, but with the Vikings if Gods are used. Yes, I know that the Romans stole Greek gods, but the U.S.S.R. stole nuclear technology from America. Cheap, but it works.

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romans because rome total war was and still is awesome
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#3 Nintendevil
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Vikings

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#4 6_volts
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Well, the Roman (or Greek gods) own the Norse gods, so I'm going to go with the Romans.
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#5 RiseAgainst12
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Romans ofcourse. /thread

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#6 supergamer514
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Damn... What is up with all these nation vs. nation threads? They should make board for it. :P

But, I think the Roman empire would win. The vikings were vicious, but they couldn't possible conquor all the land the roman empire had. Not to mention its large army.

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#7 my_mortal_coil
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The Romans clearly. The roman empire spanned most of the known world. Their army was the largest, strongest and best trained.

Vikings, though strong, fearless and brutal could not claim even a large fraction of the size and power of the Romans.

Even 100 Vikings Vs. 100 Roman soldiers ... I would have to go with the Romans for their better weapons, armor and battle knowledge.

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from a historical POV and not BS about gods or quorthan , the romans hands down.
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#9 -Sun_Tzu-
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I think Rome would win pretty easily.
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#10 mrbojangles25
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Romans ofcourse. /thread

RiseAgainst12

honestly lol

Just look at how their armies work

Norse: OK, men, we are going to run into that village and rape, plunder, loot, and kill. Yell a lot, and dont forget to look a little crazy. Swing your big axe wildly

Roman: OK, soldiers, first we will start with an organized bombardment. Then we will rain arrows down upon our enemies as our armored and shield soldiers march forward. When the enemy charges, stop shooting arrows and let our foot soldiers take them on. Then we shall signal our cavalry to flank from the sides.

I am sure I am generalizing but the Romans conquered a lot of the world.

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#12 WestSideAzn
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The Roman Empire > Viking Empire, and this is coming from a person with Norwegian ancestry.

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

Romans ofcourse. /thread

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honestly lol

Just look at how their armies work

Norse: OK, men, we are going to run into that village and rape, plunder, loot, and kill. Yell a lot, and dont forget to look a little crazy. Swing your big axe wildly

Roman: OK, soldiers, first we will start with an organized bombardment. Then we will rain arrows down upon our enemies as our armored and shield soldiers march forward. When the enemy charges, stop shooting arrows and let our foot soldiers take them on. Then we shall signal our cavalry to flank from the sides.

I am sure I am generalizing but the Romans conquered a lot of the world.

You got that from the movie "Gladiator," didn't you?
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#13 enix165
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Well, considering gods haven't exactly played a big part in real wars aside from maybe morale or motive, I'd go with the Romans. =P The Vikings were good, but Rome probably had more troops, and their equipment was no doubt better than the Vikings with the ballistas and catapults and so on.

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#14 coolbeans90
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Well, considering gods haven't exactly played a big part in real wars aside from maybe morale or motive, I'd go with the Romans. =P The Vikings were good, but Rome probably had more troops, and their equipment was no doubt better than the Vikings with the ballistas and catapults and so on.

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Well, the gods thing is just for fun. Also, without them the Vikings wouldn't stand a chance. Just trying to help them out some...

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The Roman Empire > Viking Empire, and this is coming from a person with Norwegian ancestry. [QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="RiseAgainst12"]

Romans ofcourse. /thread

WestSideAzn

honestly lol

Just look at how their armies work

Norse: OK, men, we are going to run into that village and rape, plunder, loot, and kill. Yell a lot, and dont forget to look a little crazy. Swing your big axe wildly

Roman: OK, soldiers, first we will start with an organized bombardment. Then we will rain arrows down upon our enemies as our armored and shield soldiers march forward. When the enemy charges, stop shooting arrows and let our foot soldiers take them on. Then we shall signal our cavalry to flank from the sides.

I am sure I am generalizing but the Romans conquered a lot of the world.

You got that from the movie "Gladiator," didn't you?

History Channel and Rome: Total War, actually. I was fighting the Germanic Tribes.

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#16 FunnyMouth
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Vikings. They are by far the manliest of men.
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#17 immrgoodguy
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Ever wonder how Rome fell to Germans? They were too busy killing themselves for power. So, vikings ftw.

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#18 gamefreak1876
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Obviously the Normans would win...see what I did there?

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#19 dercoo
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Depends on if it prime age Rome, or pathetic late age Rome.

Prime Rome would demolish the vikings like it was nothing with the might of the Roman war machine.

Late age Rome would put up a good fight, but the poor quality troops of the late Rome Empire with their weak motivation would be beaten back by the Vikings.

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#20 RiseAgainst12
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Depends on if it prime age Rome, or pathetic late age Rome.

Prime Rome would demolish the vikings like it was nothing with the might of the Roman war machine.

Late age Rome would put up a good fight, but the poor quality troops of the late Rome Empire with their weak motivation would be beaten back by the Vikings.

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Note how TC said "Roman Empire in it's hayday.." There is no real discussion here based of the TC's original post.. in the Romans Hayday they successfully beat every major warrior people of the ancient world. Many of which where similar in alot of respects to the vikings, In an open battle Roman discipline and training would completely destroy a viking army. Vikings relied on fear and brute strength to demoralise there enemy and break there lines giving them alot of space to swing and kill with brute strength. Romans however where disciplined enough to hold there ground and keep organised given the vikings very little opening to let of brute strength hits. There are many many examples of the Romans winning over warrior people like the Vikings in open warfare.
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Basically the Roman Empire constantly fought "guerrilla warfare" tactics in Gaul. They were well experienced in fighting similar styles to those the Norse used. Also they were one of the most amazing armies ever seen. Very organized, very hi-tech, and very dangerous.

I don't know much about the Vikings, but from what I understand is that they rarely fought in even battles. Most of their attacks were by surprise, and against a vastly inferior force.

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#22 GettingTired
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Romans easily. They have a far larger army, better weapons and armor, and are organized.
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#23 mrbojangles25
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Vikings. They are by far the manliest of men. FunnyMouth

Yea, I want the Vikings to win, but I just dont see it happening.

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#24 ragek1ll589
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Romans.

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I do love them Vikings, but the tactics of Rome tended to win them victory after victory.
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#26 coolbeans90
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Basically the Roman Empire constantly fought "guerrilla warfare" tactics in Gaul. They were well experienced in fighting similar styles to those the Norse used. Also they were one of the most amazing armies ever seen. Very organized, very hi-tech, and very dangerous.

I don't know much about the Vikings, but from what I understand is that they rarely fought in even battles. Most of their attacks were by surprise, and against a vastly inferior force.

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But they didn't fight naval guerilla warfare in Gaul :| with boats. Surprise boat warfare!!

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#27 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

Basically the Roman Empire constantly fought "guerrilla warfare" tactics in Gaul. They were well experienced in fighting similar styles to those the Norse used. Also they were one of the most amazing armies ever seen. Very organized, very hi-tech, and very dangerous.

I don't know much about the Vikings, but from what I understand is that they rarely fought in even battles. Most of their attacks were by surprise, and against a vastly inferior force.

coolbeans90

But they didn't fight naval guerilla warfare in Gaul :| with boats. Surprise boat warfare!!

....submarines? uboats?

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#28 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

Basically the Roman Empire constantly fought "guerrilla warfare" tactics in Gaul. They were well experienced in fighting similar styles to those the Norse used. Also they were one of the most amazing armies ever seen. Very organized, very hi-tech, and very dangerous.

I don't know much about the Vikings, but from what I understand is that they rarely fought in even battles. Most of their attacks were by surprise, and against a vastly inferior force.

mrbojangles25

But they didn't fight naval guerilla warfare in Gaul :| with boats. Surprise boat warfare!!

....submarines? uboats?

No, just constant surprise sea to land invasions, and constantly moving bases. (humor me, I'm trying to keep the vikes alive :x)

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#29 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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Rome...i think they had superior tactics as well as technology..

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The Roman Empire would win easily...the roman military machine was probably the greatest military force the earth would see until the invention of guns.

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#31 nintendofreak_2
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The Vikings. Why? Because they're ****ing Vikings that's why.

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#32 snowman6251
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Here's the thing about the roman army. They're like "oh they wiped out a legion. Send two next time". They're really good at having a seemingly infinite supply of troops.
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#33 duxter1
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Depends which period were talking about, the Romans at their height would easily win but the later Romans (Western Roman Empire) might lose. Other barbarians with lesser technology beat the Romans so the Vikings would win.

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#34 batman_is_aweso
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Damn... What is up with all these nation vs. nation threads? They should make board for it. :P

But, I think the Roman empire would win. The vikings were vicious, but they couldn't possible conquor all the land the roman empire had. Not to mention its large army.

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i agree they should make a vs board i think the romans would win with gods and without but i would root for the vikings and thor
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#35 chessmaster1989
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With Odin on their side the Vikings are victorious.
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#36 auron_16
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Strength in numbers: Romans FTW :D
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#37 -TheSecondSign-
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Wasn't it a combination of barbarians and internal conflicts that caused Rome to fall?

If a bunch of barbarians could do it I'm fairly certain Vikings could do it.

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#38 Juggernaut140
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Isn't that sort of what caused the fall of the Roman Empire in the first place? :?
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Rome being at the height of their power would absolutely annihilate the vikings.

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#40 rascoqaz
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Romans they just had numbers, and on top of that they were well trained to fight as a unit were as it seems the vikings just ran in like psycho's they would probably not be able to break the roman lines. Though I think one on one a viking would be able to take a roman legionnaire.
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#41 tzar3
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Vikings were great warriors, but they never forged an Empire that the world would never forget.

Both had their strong and weakpoints, andRomans were accustomed to fighting barbarians anyways... but they still lost some battles.

Rome in its prime could probably handle them, but not during their crappy dark ages and splitting of the western and eastern empires.

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#42 lordreaven
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The 2 already have been at war with each other, remember Rome didn't fall untill 1453.

EDIT: an the romans won historicly.

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#43 JediXMan
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Hmm. Well, the Roman soldiers are better trained. The Roman Empire was also one of the most powerful in history. On the other hand, the Vikings I believe have better weapons since they came about long after the Roman Empire (I think. I could be wrong). And the Vikings took on the English, also one of the strongest Empires in history. But I'm going with the Romans.

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#44 nZiFFLe
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Vikings because they would have Odin on their side.

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#45 lordreaven
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On the other hand, the Vikings I believe have better weapons since they came about long after the Roman Empire (I think. I could be wrong).

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the vikings did come after the fall of the western empire and after the Justinian conquests of the old west (even then gual and Iberia wern't reqonquered). But the swedes did raid as far as constantinople (though i doubt they attacked the city itself, the city was like Fort Knox for its time). but the Roman legions were not like the ones Caeser had, they were more heavy calvary oriented around this time.
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#46 AFBrat77
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Wasn't it a combination of barbarians and internal conflicts that caused Rome to fall?

If a bunch of barbarians could do it I'm fairly certain Vikings could do it.

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I could be wrong but I think it was the Vandals and the Visigoths that took the decaying Roman Empire down.

I voted Vikings because I thought this was near the end of the Roman Empire.....but if it was during their "heyday", no question the Romans.

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Romans would destroy the Vikings. If i was a Viking i would **** myself watching an oncoming Roman Legion

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#48 Barbariser
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Depends on how the Vikings pursue their strategy. If they go into field engagements they get turned into swiss cheese without causing significant hindrance to the Roman expansion; if they do what they used to do, that is, picking poorly defended targets and using their longboats to dodge naval patrols to get to those targets, sacking them and running off before the army could come to the rescue, then they'd probably do something, but even then they're unlikely to "win" the conflict.
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#49 Lockedge
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The Vikings would have Odin on their side. They win.
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#50 thusaha
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The Roman Empire.