If you think rap/hip hop is all auto-tune, you best be jokin'

I don't get why alot of users on OT like to use the Auto-tune card when explaining why they dislike rap/ hiphop.

While it is true that alot of artists use auto-tune, only a small fraction of them ever catch a record deal and get popular. I think most rap/hip hop fans don't even like auto-tune anymore.

The majority of rappers who do get popular, however, actually do have lyrical ability, and do not use auto-tune. Even better, some of them may sing in their song WITHOUT auto-tune. I can name tons of rappers who have lyrical ability, that are not tupac, biggie, eazy e or ice cube.

Wiz Khalifa (He talks about weed too much, but I still like him)

Jin (this one is nice)

Freddie Gibbs

J.Cole

Big Boi

Big Sean (He does talk about sex, drugs, and money, but he's good at it)

Hell, even Drake!

Anyway, T-Pain is the only artist out right now that still uses auto-tune heavily. Kanye West really only used it in 808 and hearbreaks, and that's 'bout it.

Some more:

Lupe Fiasco

Kid Cudi

I dont care because I still dont like rap or hip-hop :P

I will stick to metal and alternative

I dont care because I still dont like rap or hip-hop :P

I will stick to metal and alternative

TheMightyHoov

I dont care because I still dont like rap or hip-hop :P

I will stick to metal and alternative

TheMightyHoov

Saying rap is all auto-tune is like saying metal is all screaming. Stupid lazy generalizations. Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

I dont care because I still dont like rap or hip-hop :P

I will stick to metal and alternative

GreyskullPower

To see what you had to say. Why am I not allowed in here? :|

Saying rap is all auto-tune is like saying metal is all screaming. Stupid lazy generalizations. Darth-Caedus

They way they 'sing' doesn't bother me. Heck, I listen to spoken word poetry all the time. Rather, it's the 'music' that gets on my nerves. So repetitious.

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Saying rap is all auto-tune is like saying metal is all screaming. Stupid lazy generalizations. Gustav_Mahler

[QUOTE="Gustav_Mahler"][QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Saying rap is all auto-tune is like saying metal is all screaming. Stupid lazy generalizations. aaronmullan

Metal isnt all screaming

LINK

American rap is usually really bad. Granted it originated from the US, but they sure haven't developed on it very much.Osaka-06

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"]American rap is usually really bad. Granted it originated from the US, but they sure haven't developed on it very much.wstfld

This is news to me, I thought people pulled the "Rap sucks" card in OT :?

You forgot Kid Cudi. You Fail /JK.

[QUOTE="GreyskullPower"][QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

I dont care because I still dont like rap or hip-hop :P

I will stick to metal and alternative

TheMightyHoov

To see what you had to say. Why am I not allowed in here? :|

You forgot Kid Cudi. You Fail /JK.

KidCudi37

[QUOTE="wstfld"][QUOTE="Osaka-06"]American rap is usually really bad. Granted it originated from the US, but they sure haven't developed on it very much.Osaka-06

The last two albums I bought are very intelligent (Recovery, How I Got Over). I'm about to get Revolutons Per Minute, and being a Reflection Eternal album, I'm sure that will be intelligent as well.

[QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

[QUOTE="GreyskullPower"] If you don't like rap or hip hop, and you don't care about my post, why did you enter the thread?GreyskullPower

To see what you had to say. Why am I not allowed in here? :|

Came to see what you were gonna say then voice my opinion. No questionable motives

They way they 'sing' doesn't bother me. Heck, I listen to spoken word poetry all the time. Rather, it's the 'music' that gets on my nerves. So repetitious.

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"]American rap is usually really bad. Granted it originated from the US, but they sure haven't developed on it very much.wstfld

[QUOTE="wstfld"][QUOTE="Osaka-06"]American rap is usually really bad. Granted it originated from the US, but they sure haven't developed on it very much.Osaka-06

uhhh ok, just to show that you have no idea what you are talking about.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUm8EZLjoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bjCR1fNZL8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdk8g22A9bM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADgllloQg4

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"][QUOTE="wstfld"] You are very very wrong. wstfld

The last two albums I bought are very intelligent (Recovery, How I Got Over). I'm about to get Revolutons Per Minute, and being a Reflection Eternal album, I'm sure that will be intelligent as well.

Isn't auto-tuning more prevalent in pop and electronic music, anyway?

[QUOTE="wstfld"]

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"] Show me something that is intelligent and/or doesn't use the same old horrible street lingo.Osaka-06

The last two albums I bought are very intelligent (Recovery, How I Got Over). I'm about to get Revolutons Per Minute, and being a Reflection Eternal album, I'm sure that will be intelligent as well.

It's not that I don't like it because it's auto-tune.

I do't like it because it's a terrible excuse for music.

There's a difference. ;)

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"][QUOTE="wstfld"] You are very very wrong. lazerface216

uhhh ok, just to show that you have no idea what you are talking about.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUm8EZLjoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bjCR1fNZL8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdk8g22A9bM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADgllloQg4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJh6GauuHZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wGHptgLC28

[QUOTE="wstfld"]

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"] Show me something that is intelligent and/or doesn't use the same old horrible street lingo.Osaka-06

The last two albums I bought are very intelligent (Recovery, How I Got Over). I'm about to get Revolutons Per Minute, and being a Reflection Eternal album, I'm sure that will be intelligent as well.

listen to the links i provided and here's some more for ya...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycJ5m5Mt9JE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcxLFXbECsY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqR6M_2TY4Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHRP6ck6mHc&feature=related

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"][QUOTE="wstfld"]

The last two albums I bought are very intelligent (Recovery, How I Got Over). I'm about to get Revolutons Per Minute, and being a Reflection Eternal album, I'm sure that will be intelligent as well.

wstfld

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"] Show me something that is intelligent and/or doesn't use the same old horrible street lingo.Osaka-06

uhhh ok, just to show that you have no idea what you are talking about.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUm8EZLjoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bjCR1fNZL8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdk8g22A9bM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADgllloQg4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJh6GauuHZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wGHptgLC28

what do you mean not a good representation? NO music you hear that is widespread (i.e. mainstream radio, billboard top 100) is a good representation of that kind of music. you can say that about ALL genres of music. i don't get your point...

Autotuned or not, I can't stand hip-hop.

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"]

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

uhhh ok, just to show that you have no idea what you are talking about.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUm8EZLjoo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bjCR1fNZL8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdk8g22A9bM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pADgllloQg4

lazerface216

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJh6GauuHZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wGHptgLC28

what do you mean not a good representation? NO music you hear that is widespread (i.e. mainstream radio, billboard top 100) is a good representation of that kind of music. you can say that about ALL genres of music. i don't get your point...

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Gustav_Mahler"]But metal IS all screaming :sTheMightyHoov

Metal isnt all screaming

LINK

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"] The first two were just guys talking with noise in the background. Cannibal Ox and POS are great, but they're underground and not a representation of anything wide spread, but yes they're great and is the reason why I said "usually". This is proper rap in my opinion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJh6GauuHZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wGHptgLC28

Osaka-06

what do you mean not a good representation? NO music you hear that is widespread (i.e. mainstream radio, billboard top 100) is a good representation of that kind of music. you can say that about ALL genres of music. i don't get your point...

whatever, the point is that you were wrong. there are plenty (i can give many more examples if you like) of american hip hop artists that are progressing the genre and trying to take it to that next level. just because they aren't "widespread" means absolutely nothing.

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

what do you mean not a good representation? NO music you hear that is widespread (i.e. mainstream radio, billboard top 100) is a good representation of that kind of music. you can say that about ALL genres of music. i don't get your point...

lazerface216

whatever, the point is that you were wrong. there are plenty (i can give many more examples if you like) of american hip hop artists that are progressing the genre and trying to take it to that next level. just because they aren't "widespread" means absolutely nothing.

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"] Perhaps not in the US, but both songs I listed are very popular in Sweden and Scandinavia. Popular songs are not automatically bad over here. I could list a million other songs, but they'd be in Swedish and since we're talking about rap, that would be pretty mute.Osaka-06

whatever, the point is that you were wrong. there are plenty (i can give many more examples if you like) of american hip hop artists that are progressing the genre and trying to take it to that next level. just because they aren't "widespread" means absolutely nothing.

Nevermind. See it now :P

Another rapper I think is good(and doesnt use autotune) is Wale

Man you forgot about Lupe! :PAndYOU

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"] Perhaps not in the US, but both songs I listed are very popular in Sweden and Scandinavia. Popular songs are not automatically bad over here. I could list a million other songs, but they'd be in Swedish and since we're talking about rap, that would be pretty mute.Osaka-06

whatever, the point is that you were wrong. there are plenty (i can give many more examples if you like) of american hip hop artists that are progressing the genre and trying to take it to that next level. just because they aren't "widespread" means absolutely nothing.

you are wrong, there are plenty of great american MCs. list me some of these "great and progressive" rappers you got over there in sweden and scandinavia and i'll list you twice as many american MCs that **** all over those guys.

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]

whatever, the point is that you were wrong. there are plenty (i can give many more examples if you like) of american hip hop artists that are progressing the genre and trying to take it to that next level. just because they aren't "widespread" means absolutely nothing.

lazerface216

you are wrong, there are plenty of great american MCs. list me some of these "great and progressive" rappers you got over there in sweden and scandinavia and i'll list you twice as many american MCs that **** all over those guys.

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]Saying rap is all auto-tune is like saying metal is all screaming. Stupid lazy generalizations. Gustav_Mahler