if you would marry a rich girl, would you care to gain her family property?

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#1 youruser
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not me, i am in India, and there is a tradition that the girl's father should give some property, which would include anything from money to a TV or even a bike.

but i wan't take such things, they are giving their daughter what's more can i ask for?

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#2 _-THANATOS-_
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wat............ tv..........in the usa this crap is cheap and everywhere

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#3 Lockedge
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not me, i am in India, and there is a tradition that the girl's father should give some property, which would include anything from money to a TV or even a bike.

but i wan't take such things, they are giving their daughter what's more can i ask for?

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If you go in with the idea of them "giving" their daughter to you, and you reject the property the offer you, some might take that as if you consider their daughter to be property. That could spell trouble.
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#4 fize4ever
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well our tradition in saudi arabia is that YOU must gave the father cash not the other way around

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#5 SpidersRMe
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If they were giving us a house, or something like dishware, I'd understand. It's stuff we'd need.

But a personal gift to the husband? I don't know. I guess the father-in-law giving a wedding present to the groom would be perfectly normal.

So... yes. I guess so. Unless if they were like, "Here's 50 dollars, don't come here anymore."

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#6 starfox15
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I'm ignorant of most other marriage rituals for different countries. It seems somewhat sexist for people to give gifts to son-in-laws just because they are marrying their daughters. I'm aware that dowries still do exist even in the US, but if I was a female in that country, I'd be pretty offended.

But, then again, we also have the freedom to date, marry, and love who we want in the US. For other countries, this right is not there, which is somewhat saddening.

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If they were giving us a house, or something like dishware, I'd understand. It's stuff we'd need.

But a personal gift to the husband? I don't know. I guess the father-in-law giving a wedding present to the groom would be perfectly normal.

So... yes. I guess so. Unless if they were like, "Here's 50 dollars, don't come here anymore."

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#8 cyberdarkkid
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That's the last thing I would be interested or concerned on.
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Isn't that practice actually illegal now in India?
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#10 youruser
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yes fizo, there are vairous traditions, there are some really bad people here in india who would only let their boys marry to those father's girl who would give them money+refrigertor and stuff and even a car. regardless of whether the girl's father is rich or poor.

and yes there are poor people who sell their daughter too, but thats a different story, i am talking about traditional things, even the most top most god in my religion had passed this tradition, albeit lord only took cows as the gift.

i too would not mind it, if its small gifts and stuff.

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yes its illegal nowadays, but guess what the only way to get caught here is only if acutally anyone complains about it.

but still in India, whenever marriages happen people who are invited do bring money or gift, money can as small as 51 or as big as 1501 too. and generally there are atleast 200 to 500 people invited on an average of marriages of middleclass people, so why care for more after this much money and gifts? so its lame to ask for more, whats more all these invitational and food expenses are being carried out of girl's family.

certainly i will not ask for anything.

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I'm ignorant of most other marriage rituals for different countries. It seems somewhat sexist for people to give gifts to son-in-laws just because they are marrying their daughters. I'm aware that dowries still do exist even in the US, but if I was a female in that country, I'd be pretty offended.

But, then again, we also have the freedom to date, marry, and love who we want in the US. For other countries, this right is not there, which is somewhat saddening.

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Aye. "Marriage rituals" tend to be really troublesome and idiotic. Whether it's the above example of bride's father giving gifts to the son in law, or arranged marriages, or the whole ring & huge wedding deal we have here in North America, it's all absurd. Would I like to have a nice wedding? Yes, but it would more or less be me and my partner exchanging vows, getting a piece of paper confirming it, and running off to a small vacation. A $1000 wedding+honeymoon > $15000 wedding w/o honeymoon expenses involved.
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The practice doesn't make any sense. Even if you consider the girl property, shouldn't it be the other way around? You give the daughter's family property in exchange for their daughter. That's how it worked in China.

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#14 Lockedge
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yes its illegal nowadays, but guess what the only way to get caught here is only if acutally anyone complains about it.

but still in India, whenever marriages happen people who are invited do bring money or gift, money can as small as 51 or as big as 1501 too. and generally there are atleast 200 to 500 people invited on an average of marriages of middleclass people, so why care for more after this much money and gifts? so its lame to ask for more, whats more all these invitational and food expenses are being carried out of girl's family.

certainly i will not ask for anything.

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That is an insanely large amount of people. Although from my Indian friends, I've more or less heard that family is a huge deal in India...supported by the fact that recently a friend of mine had 10 members of family bunking in at his flat for two weeks while they were visiting. XD I don't know. I'd just feel bad accepting gifts/money at a wedding. I'd be seven shades of awkward.
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#15 youruser
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i do not consider a girl some property nope, i meant that the girl's parents are already allowing their girl to marry me and all, thats enough for me. all i want is her.

really, lock i wonder if that 15000 includes the shiny wedding ring too?

marraige may start with lots of expenses, but the gifts which are received here in india often includes kitchenwares, tea sets, clothes, household novelties even mini jewelry too also not to forget the money even if its 51 per guest, considering there would be over 500 guests, so in the marriage starts expensive but ends profitable event here in India, unless you do not have too many relatives to call for the event.

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#16 WeaponXY
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I wouldn't care whatsoever.

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#17 jJaAmMeEsS2184
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not me, i am in India, and there is a tradition that the girl's father should give some property, which would include anything from money to a TV or even a bike.

but i wan't take such things, they are giving their daughter what's more can i ask for?

youruser

if it's a tradition, then wouldn't it be rude of you to not accept the property?

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#18 Lockedge
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i do not consider a girl some property nope, i meant that the girl's parents are already allowing their girl to marry me and all, thats enough for me. all i want is her.

really, lock i wonder if that 15000 includes the shiny wedding ring too?

marraige may start with lots of expenses, but the gifts which are received here in india often includes kitchenwares, tea sets, clothes, household novelties even mini jewelry too also not to forget the money even if its 51 per guest, considering there would be over 500 guests, so in the marriage starts expensive but ends profitable event here in India, unless you do not have too many relatives to call for the event.

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It's nice to hear some clarification on the first part. :) Marriage is all about the two people involved and it's always nice to hear people focus on the other half of the equation rather than any unnecessary aspects(well, unnecessary in my opinion). The 15000 could include the ring, but not usually. My parents have a friend whose daughter just got married, and that wedding(and the reception afterwards) cost them over $15000, most of which were unnecessary things like orchid centerpieces for each table, an open bar, the ridiculously expensive location they had to rent, etc. One of my friends has told me that her wedding won't cost less than $20,000, and will likely pass the $35k mark once you factor in the honeymoon. That's just ridiculous IMHO.
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i do not consider a girl some property nope, i meant that the girl's parents are already allowing their girl to marry me and all, thats enough for me. all i want is her.

really, lock i wonder if that 15000 includes the shiny wedding ring too?

marraige may start with lots of expenses, but the gifts which are received here in india often includes kitchenwares, tea sets, clothes, household novelties even mini jewelry too also not to forget the money even if its 51 per guest, considering there would be over 500 guests, so in the marriage starts expensive but ends profitable event here in India, unless you do not have too many relatives to call for the event.

Lockedge

It's nice to hear some clarification on the first part. :) Marriage is all about the two people involved and it's always nice to hear people focus on the other half of the equation rather than any unnecessary aspects(well, unnecessary in my opinion). The 15000 could include the ring, but not usually. My parents have a friend whose daughter just got married, and that wedding(and the reception afterwards) cost them over $15000, most of which were unnecessary things like orchid centerpieces for each table, an open bar, the ridiculously expensive location they had to rent, etc. One of my friends has told me that her wedding won't cost less than $20,000, and will likely pass the $35k mark once you factor in the honeymoon. That's just ridiculous IMHO.

hey wait a minute....an open bar...unnecissary?..

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#20 DigitalExile
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If I married a girl it would be because I love her, so I'd be with her no matter what she, or her parents, owned.

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#21 youruser
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i guess, but those greedy parents of the boy who ask for money in the name of tradition explains like this:

"o do not forget to buy a couple of tickets, so that we can send the kids to their honeymoon at that famous hill station"

LAME.

i will go to a honeymoon sort of trip after marriage, in a hill station, but believe it or not i would first go to visit the most famous temples of my Country. yes sir, gotta thank god for giving me a wife, and as a rule of visiting this places one needs to keep clean, meaning no sleeping, now imagine no sleeping right after marriage, generally people would go to honeymoon particularly for long special private sleepings, but we will go to holy places, that way god too will be happy that we have such high religious moral values of life. and i am sure she would not mind it too, its only fair to go at these places at young age, cause generally people here visit the said places when they are really old, so that they can gain heaven or so that they can erase then unholy doings or so that they can find peace, but i would rather prefer going to hard places like a sacred temple in top of a big mountain in youth then at old age.

back on topic, its also true that there are girls who get angry especially when the boy's parents asks for more then what the original deal would have been, heck there are even cases where boy and his family torture the girl in order to gain more of her family property, that is of course way too wrong. i have seen police entering this marriages right in the wedding hall and capturing the boy and his family, but nothing much happens, girl still would have trouble marrying other person having such chaos at her marriage for the 1st time.

this is India, where even your neighbour can be your enemy by spreading bad rumors to your would be wife or husband and their family.

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#22 jJaAmMeEsS2184
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well our tradition in saudi arabia is that YOU must gave the father cash not the other way around

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that's going to be my tradition when my daughter is old enough to marry someone..:D

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If I marry a girl who's family is rich, I will take was is offered but wouldn't demand a dowry or anything like that. If she has lots of money herself, I would expect that I would occasionally spend some of it.
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Well I mean I wouldn't mind inheriting a house on the lake or an old '67 Shebly GT500 Cobra Mustang sitting in the garage, but they would probably still be hers. Like since they were her parents, she would have final say, but I hope that she just wouldn't sell them if I would find some enjoyment out of them or something. But otherwise, those are her dealings because I was not born from that family...