ignore young earth creationists, at least the proselytizers

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#1 mig_killer2
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sorry for the religious nature of this thread, but I just gotta say it.

I was in a debate with this guy. I pointed out a lot of flaws in his arguments, like for instance, noah's flood. he's a proponent of the hydroplate "theory" for the source of the flood waters. I told him that it is not possible for a layer of water beneath the crust because the earth's crust would not float on water, and that if it were beneath the crust, the water would be boiling hot and that noah would be dead pretty quickly.

He then told me "you're forgetting to add god to the equation". you cannot debate with someone who can pull the divine intervention response out of his ass. He then told me that it takes just as much faith to believe that science can explain things just as well as religion can.

science takes as much faith to believe as it takes to believe in magic man?

I guess it is true that those who do not live by reason will not be conquered by it

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#2 SAURON221
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You should stay away from religion debates they kind of end like monopoly. People get angry some one picks up the board and whips it across the room, screaming there's your park place.
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#3 zombiepigeon
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You should of asked him if God was going to help with the flood, why didn't he just use his magic powers to flood the Earth. Why did he have to pull it out of underneath the Earth? Couldn't he have just made it rain endlessly? Of course you can not win. He's a Young Earth Creationist. Anyone who is alive and supports that theory today only has two true weapons: Blind faith, and ignorance. The two most powerful weapons of all. He'll believe anything to keep his inaccurate theory going. He lives in 2007 and believes in Young Earth Creationism. He will never fold, and will not accept or tolerate any belief other than his own.
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#4 mark4091
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That guy is satan.
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Hi I am a computer science student. However, this does not stop me from being a believer. I would like to demonstrate what I consider a flaw in all atheist statements and arguments. Atheists argue that we cannot believe in a God whose existence we cannot prove. However, the way I see things, we do the same in science: we accept for instance that parallel lines never meet. And we construct further theorems and proofs based on this unproven assumption. I cannot understand how this is correct in maths, but the same is not acceptable for religion.
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Hi I am a computer science student. However, this does not stop me from being a believer. I would like to demonstrate what I consider a flaw in all atheist statements and arguments. Atheists argue that we cannot believe in a God whose existence we cannot prove. However, the way I see things, we do the same in science: we accept for instance that parallel lines never meet. And we construct further theorems and proofs based on this unproven assumption. I cannot understand how this is correct in maths, but the same is not acceptable for religion.CptJSparrow

Theorems are theories, they are allowed to be wrong. And we can prove that parallel line don't connect. If they connect, then they are not parallel.

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Hi I am a computer science student. However, this does not stop me from being a believer. I would like to demonstrate what I consider a flaw in all atheist statements and arguments. Atheists argue that we cannot believe in a God whose existence we cannot prove. However, the way I see things, we do the same in science: we accept for instance that parallel lines never meet. And we construct further theorems and proofs based on this unproven assumption. I cannot understand how this is correct in maths, but the same is not acceptable for religion.CptJSparrow
the burden of proof is on the positive advocate. people in this world (myself included) believe in god because they have a reason to, not because the evidence suggests it, or because it cant be disproven. people ask, how is believing in god any more logical than believing in santa claus or unicorns, or orbital teapots? is there a reason to believe in santa claus, unicorns, or teapots?
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]Hi I am a computer science student. However, this does not stop me from being a believer. I would like to demonstrate what I consider a flaw in all atheist statements and arguments. Atheists argue that we cannot believe in a God whose existence we cannot prove. However, the way I see things, we do the same in science: we accept for instance that parallel lines never meet. And we construct further theorems and proofs based on this unproven assumption. I cannot understand how this is correct in maths, but the same is not acceptable for religion.mig_killer2
the burden of proof is on the positive advocate. people in this world (myself included) believe in god because they have a reason to, not because the evidence suggests it, or because it cant be disproven. people ask, how is believing in god any more logical than believing in santa claus or unicorns, or orbital teapots? is there a reason to believe in santa claus, unicorns, or teapots?

Care to explain how the presents get under my Christmas Tree?

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"]Hi I am a computer science student. However, this does not stop me from being a believer. I would like to demonstrate what I consider a flaw in all atheist statements and arguments. Atheists argue that we cannot believe in a God whose existence we cannot prove. However, the way I see things, we do the same in science: we accept for instance that parallel lines never meet. And we construct further theorems and proofs based on this unproven assumption. I cannot understand how this is correct in maths, but the same is not acceptable for religion.qetuo6

the burden of proof is on the positive advocate. people in this world (myself included) believe in god because they have a reason to, not because the evidence suggests it, or because it cant be disproven. people ask, how is believing in god any more logical than believing in santa claus or unicorns, or orbital teapots? is there a reason to believe in santa claus, unicorns, or teapots?

Care to explain how the presents get under my Christmas Tree?

yes. I put them there
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#10 EboyLOL
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I agree, they are rather inane. I would be just fine if, when engaged in an argument about *(insert Evolution, the age of the Earth, Noah's Arc etc)* , that they would just say "Hey man, I am a practicing theist and do not believe in what you, an atheist/agnostic believes.". That would be just fine, but instead many of these theiststry and make silly 'connections' between why they think the Earth is say, 12,000 years old. I don't argue with theists over their beliefs because I am not a twit (like many an atheist, especially on these forums), but these types of theists annoy me.
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#11 CptJSparrow
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That was satire, guys.
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I like how he has "Christians die for what they believe in; Jews kill for what they believe in." How full of **** is that? Screw this guy, his dirtstache, and his nonsense. I didn't really catch what he was talking about since my brain tends to filter out bull****.
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#13 mig_killer2
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I like how he has "Christians die for what they believe in; Jews kill for what they believe in." How full of **** is that? Screw this guy, his dirtstache, and his nonsense. I didn't really catch what he was talking about since my brain tends to filter out bull****.Headbanger88
who said that?