What are your guys thoughts about illegal immigrants coming in to the U.S.?
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  I am honestly disgusted on how the defenders of allowing illegal immigrants in are trying to turn it into a racism issue.. In the end they are breaking the law, and other then the undisuputable rights that every human being has they infact have no rights under American Law..
  In the end its big business that needs to be fought.. Here is a piece of irony you guys might like to hear.. That 700 mile wall that was being belt, well the contracters got caught using ILLEGALS to build the wall for cheaper wages so they could keep more of the money on its completition.
If we make it easier to immigrate here it would dramatically cut back on illegal immigration, and I think that's the best thing that we can do.yoshi-lnexIsn't that kind of like making stealing legal so you don't have to arrest thieves, though?
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]If we make it easier to immigrate here it would dramatically cut back on illegal immigration, and I think that's the best thing that we can do.yermomsboxxIsn't that kind of like making stealing legal so you don't have to arrest thieves, though? It's more along the lines of documenting people that are more likely to commit crimes in order to reduce the overall number of crimes.
[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]If we make it easier to immigrate here it would dramatically cut back on illegal immigration, and I think that's the best thing that we can do.yoshi-lnexIsn't that kind of like making stealing legal so you don't have to arrest thieves, though? It's more along the lines of documenting people that are more likely to commit crimes in order to reduce the overall number of crimes.I'm not seeing the difference. Help me out.
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]If we make it easier to immigrate here it would dramatically cut back on illegal immigration, and I think that's the best thing that we can do.yermomsboxxIsn't that kind of like making stealing legal so you don't have to arrest thieves, though? It's more along the lines of documenting people that are more likely to commit crimes in order to reduce the overall number of crimes.I'm not seeing the difference. Help me out.
[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]If we make it easier to immigrate here it would dramatically cut back on illegal immigration, and I think that's the best thing that we can do.Diablo112688Isn't that kind of like making stealing legal so you don't have to arrest thieves, though? It's more along the lines of documenting people that are more likely to commit crimes in order to reduce the overall number of crimes.I'm not seeing the difference. Help me out.
How's this: Maybe it's been made harder to immigrate here because this country has been having a hard time handling the load of people in this country. Let alone Illegal immigrants.
Illegal's should be deported, and to keep them out we really need to secure the border...We need like Force fields or something...
[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]If we make it easier to immigrate here it would dramatically cut back on illegal immigration, and I think that's the best thing that we can do.Diablo112688Isn't that kind of like making stealing legal so you don't have to arrest thieves, though? It's more along the lines of documenting people that are more likely to commit crimes in order to reduce the overall number of crimes.I'm not seeing the difference. Help me out.
No... its not like making stealing legal. Most dont do anything wrong and just want a better life. You cant possibly understand what they go through. It is still wrong though on some level..Diablo112688
 Thats not neccesarly true, a massive amount of drug and HUMAN trafficking comes from our southern border due to illegal immigration.. Increased amounts of crime can also be attained to illegal aliens.. Not saying that people from the country of Mexico are infact all criminals, just saying many criminals run across the border to escape mexican law.
[QUOTE="Diablo112688"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]If we make it easier to immigrate here it would dramatically cut back on illegal immigration, and I think that's the best thing that we can do.yermomsboxxIsn't that kind of like making stealing legal so you don't have to arrest thieves, though? It's more along the lines of documenting people that are more likely to commit crimes in order to reduce the overall number of crimes.I'm not seeing the difference. Help me out.
We need to make it easier to become a citizen because every economy needs a cheap labor force. These people are willing to pick up the terrible, minimum wage jobs that are essential to the economy. On the other hand, we need to deport all illegals. They are a drain on the economy. The do not pay taxes, yet they use our health care, school systems, welfare, ect for free. It's ridiculous.SmashBrosLegend
Most American's in poverty are willing to take minimum wage jobs. Trust me, i know from personal experience. The reason companies hire Illegals is because they can pay them LESS than minumum wage. If we make them legal citizens, there will no longer be any advantage, and you'll just make the unemployment rate skyrocket because of the influx of citizens.
Of course there are criminals, but the majority comes for a better life do to desperation. I feel sorry for them, but it is still breaking the law which is all wrong anyway. Our immigration laws are absurd and dont apply to how things actually are. Too many laws seem good in paper, but in reality they just dont work.  Diablo112688There is also a large problem when illegal residents of the US take the American dollars that they have made here, and then ship them back to their families in mexico. It causes unnecessary and exhorbitant strain on our economy. The reason that the Mexican government tends to look the other way when this happens, however, is because the act bolsters their own economy. That is why I say that every illegal caught here should be returned to Mexico and exchanged for one 55 gallon drum of oil. That way, either the Mexican government will actually step up and try to take a stand against this increasing problem, or we will find a much cheaper source of fuel. Tit-for tat, ebb and flow.
[QUOTE="Diablo112688"]Of course there are criminals, but the majority comes for a better life do to desperation. I feel sorry for them, but it is still breaking the law which is all wrong anyway. Our immigration laws are absurd and dont apply to how things actually are. Too many laws seem good in paper, but in reality they just dont work. yermomsboxxThere is also a large problem when illegal residents of the US take the American dollars that they have made here, and then ship them back to their families in mexico. It causes unnecessary and exhorbitant strain on our economy. The reason that the Mexican government tends to look the other way when this happens, however, is because the act bolsters their own economy. That is why I say that every illegal caught here should be returned to Mexico and exchanged for one 55 gallon drum of oil. That way, either the Mexican government will actually step up and try to take a stand against this increasing problem, or we will find a much cheaper source of fuel. Tit-for tat, ebb and flow.
[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="Diablo112688"]Of course there are criminals, but the majority comes for a better life do to desperation. I feel sorry for them, but it is still breaking the law which is all wrong anyway. Our immigration laws are absurd and dont apply to how things actually are. Too many laws seem good in paper, but in reality they just dont work. Diablo112688There is also a large problem when illegal residents of the US take the American dollars that they have made here, and then ship them back to their families in mexico. It causes unnecessary and exhorbitant strain on our economy. The reason that the Mexican government tends to look the other way when this happens, however, is because the act bolsters their own economy. That is why I say that every illegal caught here should be returned to Mexico and exchanged for one 55 gallon drum of oil. That way, either the Mexican government will actually step up and try to take a stand against this increasing problem, or we will find a much cheaper source of fuel. Tit-for tat, ebb and flow.
You'd be amazed what martial law and 1 million Nation Gaurd can do...
[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="Diablo112688"]Of course there are criminals, but the majority comes for a better life do to desperation. I feel sorry for them, but it is still breaking the law which is all wrong anyway. Our immigration laws are absurd and dont apply to how things actually are. Too many laws seem good in paper, but in reality they just dont work. Diablo112688There is also a large problem when illegal residents of the US take the American dollars that they have made here, and then ship them back to their families in mexico. It causes unnecessary and exhorbitant strain on our economy. The reason that the Mexican government tends to look the other way when this happens, however, is because the act bolsters their own economy. That is why I say that every illegal caught here should be returned to Mexico and exchanged for one 55 gallon drum of oil. That way, either the Mexican government will actually step up and try to take a stand against this increasing problem, or we will find a much cheaper source of fuel. Tit-for tat, ebb and flow.
I am honestly disgusted on how the defenders of allowing illegal immigrants in are trying to turn it into a racism issue.. In the end they are breaking the law, and other then the undisuputable rights that every human being has they infact have no rights under American Law..sSubZerOo
It is not an issue of racism, but one of nationalism. They are breaking the law, because the law serves them nothing.
In the end its big business that needs to be fought.. Here is a piece of irony you guys might like to hear.. That 700 mile wall that was being belt, well the contracters got caught using ILLEGALS to build the wall for cheaper wages so they could keep more of the money on its completition.
It is true that capitalists are using cheap imported labourers. But all immigrants need to work - except for the capitalists. So basically, to stop this, you need to outlaw immigration. Well then, how about eliminating the causes of immigration instead? Most people come to work in first world countries because they get even lower wages in the countries they leave. Imperialism and globalization has led us to this situation, and it is the result of capitalism.
It's not big business in particular that needs to be fought; it is capitalism that needs to be fought. No-one who turns to the bourgeois state to protect indigenous workers from foreign workers is worthy of being called a socialist, which I am led to believe that you are by the topics you raised in your post otherwise. Why wouldn't an immigrant worker join a trade union like anyone else? How exactly are you fighting big business by clinging to the bourgeois state? The real solution is called c.lass struggle. What was it now that Marx said - "Workers of all countries divide"? No, that's not what he said.
[QUOTE="Diablo112688"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="Diablo112688"]Of course there are criminals, but the majority comes for a better life do to desperation. I feel sorry for them, but it is still breaking the law which is all wrong anyway. Our immigration laws are absurd and dont apply to how things actually are. Too many laws seem good in paper, but in reality they just dont work. yermomsboxxThere is also a large problem when illegal residents of the US take the American dollars that they have made here, and then ship them back to their families in mexico. It causes unnecessary and exhorbitant strain on our economy. The reason that the Mexican government tends to look the other way when this happens, however, is because the act bolsters their own economy. That is why I say that every illegal caught here should be returned to Mexico and exchanged for one 55 gallon drum of oil. That way, either the Mexican government will actually step up and try to take a stand against this increasing problem, or we will find a much cheaper source of fuel. Tit-for tat, ebb and flow.
If we make it easier to immigrate here it would dramatically cut back on illegal immigration, and I think that's the best thing that we can do.yoshi-lnexI'm sick of how we are supposed to kiss the @$$es of everyone that comes in from other countries. Either they come in legally or go back to their second rate 3rd world countries.
[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="Diablo112688"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="Diablo112688"]Of course there are criminals, but the majority comes for a better life do to desperation. I feel sorry for them, but it is still breaking the law which is all wrong anyway. Our immigration laws are absurd and dont apply to how things actually are. Too many laws seem good in paper, but in reality they just dont work. doubutsutekiThere is also a large problem when illegal residents of the US take the American dollars that they have made here, and then ship them back to their families in mexico. It causes unnecessary and exhorbitant strain on our economy. The reason that the Mexican government tends to look the other way when this happens, however, is because the act bolsters their own economy. That is why I say that every illegal caught here should be returned to Mexico and exchanged for one 55 gallon drum of oil. That way, either the Mexican government will actually step up and try to take a stand against this increasing problem, or we will find a much cheaper source of fuel. Tit-for tat, ebb and flow.
[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="Diablo112688"][QUOTE="yermomsboxx"][QUOTE="Diablo112688"]Of course there are criminals, but the majority comes for a better life do to desperation. I feel sorry for them, but it is still breaking the law which is all wrong anyway. Our immigration laws are absurd and dont apply to how things actually are. Too many laws seem good in paper, but in reality they just dont work. yermomsboxxThere is also a large problem when illegal residents of the US take the American dollars that they have made here, and then ship them back to their families in mexico. It causes unnecessary and exhorbitant strain on our economy. The reason that the Mexican government tends to look the other way when this happens, however, is because the act bolsters their own economy. That is why I say that every illegal caught here should be returned to Mexico and exchanged for one 55 gallon drum of oil. That way, either the Mexican government will actually step up and try to take a stand against this increasing problem, or we will find a much cheaper source of fuel. Tit-for tat, ebb and flow.
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