I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state.
[QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. Ok.....now what?
[QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. um, why should Israel not have as much right to exist as a nation state as say... oh..... the USA? each nation has as much right to exist as another.
I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. slackersunited
didn't i tell u people about the EVIL people in these forums...
[QUOTE="rickykemp"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. um, why should Israel not have as much right to exist as a nation state as say... oh..... the USA? each nation has as much right to exist as another.
I agree.
It's a bit hypocritical to say Israel has no right to exist when you look at how America came to be.
Not many country's just peacefully came into existence. It's the way the world works.
[QUOTE="fattony173"] [QUOTE="rickykemp"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. um, why should Israel not have as much right to exist as a nation state as say... oh..... the USA? each nation has as much right to exist as another.
I agree.
It's a bit hypocritical to say Israel has no right to exist when you look at how America came to be.
Not many country's just peacefully came into existence. It's the way the world works.
exactly, all i have to do is point out the decimation of the native american population during colonisation, which highlights the death-centered foundations of the USA.
I think that existing as a state and backed by the UN is good for Israel. Because otherwise Jews would face the same oppression and persecution that they have throughout history.
I think that existing as a state and backed by the UN is good for Israel. Because otherwise Jews would face the same oppression and persecution that they have throughout history.fidosim
I think that existing as a state and backed by the UN is good for Israel. Because otherwise Jews would face the same oppression and persecution that they have throughout history.fidosim
exactly, christians and muslims take for granted the fixed nature of their religion to nation states, whilst Judaism is a more 'nomadic' (theres another more appropriate term for it, but i cant quite remember it) religion which does not have such a strong national base. because of this, the jewish faith has little influence on national politcs in any country other than Israel.
I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. slackersunited
then you are obviously misstaken in the bible it says Israel is God's chosen land/people/ etc etc
[QUOTE="fidosim"]I think that existing as a state and backed by the UN is good for Israel. Because otherwise Jews would face the same oppression and persecution that they have throughout history.rickykemp
exactly, christians and muslims take for granted the fixed nature of their religion to nation states, whilst Judaism is a more 'nomadic' (theres another more appropriate term for it, but i cant quite remember it) religion which does not have such a strong national base. because of this, the jewish faith has little influence on national politcs in any country other than Israel.
i say it's a good thing -who needs another influencial religion..
[QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. Well...Good for you but...I don't care.:twisted:
[QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. I agree. While all countries are built on land taken from others, they are usually the result of hundreds of years of gains, losses, defeats, victories, and slow gradual assimilation. For instance, there would have been a time when people living in one part of present day Sweden would have been a completely different kingdom from those in another part, but those ancient divisions are forgotten now, due to time (the evolution of the state). Israel, on the other hand, though an ancestral home of the Jews, clearly belonged to the Palestinians by the time WW2 ended. What happened to the Jewish people during the holocaust was awful, but not the Palestinians fault. Why take their current home, like one big apology card for the Jewish people.... Sorry 6 million of you died.... have a country on us!!! Better to give them Germany... If it hadn't been Palestine, if say a modern caucasian Christian nation had by chance been the Jews' ancestral home (like say Finland, or Belgium), does anyone honestly think the same set of events that led to the creation of Israel would have occured?
[QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. Jesus Christ wants you to love all of your brothers and sisters:)
[QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. aces_are_high
didn't i tell u people about the EVIL people in these forums...
[QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. dsmccracken
I agree. While all countries are built on land taken from others, they are usually the result of hundreds of years of gains, losses, defeats, victories, and slow gradual assimilation. For instance, there would have been a time when people living in one part of present day Sweden would have been a completely different kingdom from those in another part, but those ancient divisions are forgotten now, due to time (the evolution of the state). Israel, on the other hand, though an ancestral home of the Jews, clearly belonged to the Palestinians by the time WW2 ended. What happened to the Jewish people during the holocaust was awful, but not the Palestinians fault. Why take their current home, like one big apology card for the Jewish people.... Sorry 6 million of you died.... have a country on us!!! Better to give them Germany... If it hadn't been Palestine, if say a modern caucasian Christian nation had by chance been the Jews' ancestral home (like say Finland, or Belgium), does anyone honestly think the same set of events that led to the creation of Israel would have occured?
the zionist settlement within the land of palestine/israel commenced in the 1880's-NOT after WW2...most of the lands controlled by israel are either purchased(by wealthy jewish companies....kakal alone is responsible for 19% of territorial israel) or consisted of wilderness cleared and settled by jewish immigrants......by the 2nd world war the zionist entity was already a full functioning state and a democracy..... the(new) arab nationality,on the other hand, sprung to life only in the 1920's-while the claims for jewish sovereignty had existed for over half a century........
your knowledge of the history of the region is ,obviously, lacking-read up......
[QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. LiCeNSe_2_PRaNk
didn't i tell u people about the EVIL people in these forums...
[QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. gamingqueen
didn't i tell u people about the EVIL people in these forums...
what people !!
He means us.
Some jews are against it.
agreed-i'm sternly against pink and pinkish hued sigs............
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. aces_are_high
I agree. While all countries are built on land taken from others, they are usually the result of hundreds of years of gains, losses, defeats, victories, and slow gradual assimilation. For instance, there would have been a time when people living in one part of present day Sweden would have been a completely different kingdom from those in another part, but those ancient divisions are forgotten now, due to time (the evolution of the state). Israel, on the other hand, though an ancestral home of the Jews, clearly belonged to the Palestinians by the time WW2 ended. What happened to the Jewish people during the holocaust was awful, but not the Palestinians fault. Why take their current home, like one big apology card for the Jewish people.... Sorry 6 million of you died.... have a country on us!!! Better to give them Germany... If it hadn't been Palestine, if say a modern caucasian Christian nation had by chance been the Jews' ancestral home (like say Finland, or Belgium), does anyone honestly think the same set of events that led to the creation of Israel would have occured?
the zionist settlement within the land of palestine/israel commenced in the 1880's-NOT after WW2...most of the lands controlled by israel are either purchased(by wealthy jewish companies....kakal alone is responsible for 19% of territorial israel) or consisted of wilderness cleared and settled by jewish immigrants......by the 2nd world war the zionist entity was already a full functioning state and a democracy..... the(new) arab nationality,on the other hand, sprung to life only in the 1920's-while the claims for jewish sovereignty had existed for over half a century........
your knowledge of the history of the region is ,obviously, lacking-read up......
Well, thanks for the insult, but you too need to do some reading... of my post that is. I never said there were no Jews in Palestine pre-WW2. However, there was a mass migration to Israel from mainland Europe post-WW2, turning a minority into a majority in a relatively short period of time. The Palestinians controlled the area, and were stripped of that control unilaterally. As for the land purchases, that occured later, after an Israeli gov't by then in place facilitated such purchases. Anyone living in America, Canada, or Australia in the mood to give up their home tomorrow if the aboriginal peoples who once inhabited the area come a-knockin'?
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. dsmccracken
I agree. While all countries are built on land taken from others, they are usually the result of hundreds of years of gains, losses, defeats, victories, and slow gradual assimilation. For instance, there would have been a time when people living in one part of present day Sweden would have been a completely different kingdom from those in another part, but those ancient divisions are forgotten now, due to time (the evolution of the state). Israel, on the other hand, though an ancestral home of the Jews, clearly belonged to the Palestinians by the time WW2 ended. What happened to the Jewish people during the holocaust was awful, but not the Palestinians fault. Why take their current home, like one big apology card for the Jewish people.... Sorry 6 million of you died.... have a country on us!!! Better to give them Germany... If it hadn't been Palestine, if say a modern caucasian Christian nation had by chance been the Jews' ancestral home (like say Finland, or Belgium), does anyone honestly think the same set of events that led to the creation of Israel would have occured?
the zionist settlement within the land of palestine/israel commenced in the 1880's-NOT after WW2...most of the lands controlled by israel are either purchased(by wealthy jewish companies....kakal alone is responsible for 19% of territorial israel) or consisted of wilderness cleared and settled by jewish immigrants......by the 2nd world war the zionist entity was already a full functioning state and a democracy..... the(new) arab nationality,on the other hand, sprung to life only in the 1920's-while the claims for jewish sovereignty had existed for over half a century........
your knowledge of the history of the region is ,obviously, lacking-read up......
Well, thanks for the insult, but you too need to do some reading... of my post that is. I never said there were no Jews in Palestine pre-WW2. However, there was a mass migration to Israel from mainland Europe post-WW2, turning a minority into a majority in a relatively short period of time. The Palestinians controlled the area, and were stripped of that control unilaterally. As for the land purchases, that occured later, after an Israeli gov't by then in place facilitated such purchases. Anyone living in America, Canada, or Australia in the mood to give up their home tomorrow if the aboriginal peoples who once inhabited the area come a-knockin'?
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. dsmccracken
I agree. While all countries are built on land taken from others, they are usually the result of hundreds of years of gains, losses, defeats, victories, and slow gradual assimilation. For instance, there would have been a time when people living in one part of present day Sweden would have been a completely different kingdom from those in another part, but those ancient divisions are forgotten now, due to time (the evolution of the state). Israel, on the other hand, though an ancestral home of the Jews, clearly belonged to the Palestinians by the time WW2 ended. What happened to the Jewish people during the holocaust was awful, but not the Palestinians fault. Why take their current home, like one big apology card for the Jewish people.... Sorry 6 million of you died.... have a country on us!!! Better to give them Germany... If it hadn't been Palestine, if say a modern caucasian Christian nation had by chance been the Jews' ancestral home (like say Finland, or Belgium), does anyone honestly think the same set of events that led to the creation of Israel would have occured?
the zionist settlement within the land of palestine/israel commenced in the 1880's-NOT after WW2...most of the lands controlled by israel are either purchased(by wealthy jewish companies....kakal alone is responsible for 19% of territorial israel) or consisted of wilderness cleared and settled by jewish immigrants......by the 2nd world war the zionist entity was already a full functioning state and a democracy..... the(new) arab nationality,on the other hand, sprung to life only in the 1920's-while the claims for jewish sovereignty had existed for over half a century........
your knowledge of the history of the region is ,obviously, lacking-read up......
Well, thanks for the insult, but you too need to do some reading... of my post that is. I never said there were no Jews in Palestine pre-WW2. However, there was a mass migration to Israel from mainland Europe post-WW2, turning a minority into a majority in a relatively short period of time. The Palestinians controlled the area, and were stripped of that control unilaterally. As for the land purchases, that occured later, after an Israeli gov't by then in place facilitated such purchases. Anyone living in America, Canada, or Australia in the mood to give up their home tomorrow if the aboriginal peoples who once inhabited the area come a-knockin'?
your post is completely and utterly false....:|........you better get on with your reading.....
[QUOTE="rickykemp"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. fattony173
um, why should Israel not have as much right to exist as a nation state as say... oh..... the USA? each nation has as much right to exist as another.
I agree.
It's a bit hypocritical to say Israel has no right to exist when you look at how America came to be.
Not many country's just peacefully came into existence. It's the way the world works.
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. aces_are_high
I agree. While all countries are built on land taken from others, they are usually the result of hundreds of years of gains, losses, defeats, victories, and slow gradual assimilation. For instance, there would have been a time when people living in one part of present day Sweden would have been a completely different kingdom from those in another part, but those ancient divisions are forgotten now, due to time (the evolution of the state). Israel, on the other hand, though an ancestral home of the Jews, clearly belonged to the Palestinians by the time WW2 ended. What happened to the Jewish people during the holocaust was awful, but not the Palestinians fault. Why take their current home, like one big apology card for the Jewish people.... Sorry 6 million of you died.... have a country on us!!! Better to give them Germany... If it hadn't been Palestine, if say a modern caucasian Christian nation had by chance been the Jews' ancestral home (like say Finland, or Belgium), does anyone honestly think the same set of events that led to the creation of Israel would have occured?
the zionist settlement within the land of palestine/israel commenced in the 1880's-NOT after WW2...most of the lands controlled by israel are either purchased(by wealthy jewish companies....kakal alone is responsible for 19% of territorial israel) or consisted of wilderness cleared and settled by jewish immigrants......by the 2nd world war the zionist entity was already a full functioning state and a democracy..... the(new) arab nationality,on the other hand, sprung to life only in the 1920's-while the claims for jewish sovereignty had existed for over half a century........
your knowledge of the history of the region is ,obviously, lacking-read up......
Well, thanks for the insult, but you too need to do some reading... of my post that is. I never said there were no Jews in Palestine pre-WW2. However, there was a mass migration to Israel from mainland Europe post-WW2, turning a minority into a majority in a relatively short period of time. The Palestinians controlled the area, and were stripped of that control unilaterally. As for the land purchases, that occured later, after an Israeli gov't by then in place facilitated such purchases. Anyone living in America, Canada, or Australia in the mood to give up their home tomorrow if the aboriginal peoples who once inhabited the area come a-knockin'?
your post is completely and utterly false....:|........you better get on with your reading.....
Saying something is false doesn't actually make it false. Look up the demographic figures during the period of the Mandate, between WW1 and WW2, post WW2, and now. Also look up generational origin records of modern Israelis, and see if you still want to tell me my post is completely false.
[QUOTE="fattony173"] [QUOTE="rickykemp"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. Mr_Manikin52
um, why should Israel not have as much right to exist as a nation state as say... oh..... the USA? each nation has as much right to exist as another.
I agree.
It's a bit hypocritical to say Israel has no right to exist when you look at how America came to be.
Not many country's just peacefully came into existence. It's the way the world works.
Israel is a lot older than America and Canada.:?
Do these Arabs really need a "Palestine"?:?
Israel become a state in 1948, long after the US and Canada.
Saying something is false doesn't actually make it false. Look up the demographic figures during the period of the Mandate, between WW1 and WW2, post WW2, and now. Also look up generational origin records of modern Israelis, and see if you still want to tell me my post is completely false.dsmccracken
[QUOTE="fattony173"] [QUOTE="rickykemp"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. dsmccracken
um, why should Israel not have as much right to exist as a nation state as say... oh..... the USA? each nation has as much right to exist as another.
I agree.
It's a bit hypocritical to say Israel has no right to exist when you look at how America came to be.
Not many country's just peacefully came into existence. It's the way the world works.
Israel is a lot older than America and Canada.:?
Do these Arabs really need a "Palestine"?:?
Israel become a state in 1948, long after the US and Canada.
Are you completely unable, or just unwilling, to post without insults? So you have a masters in the origin of Israel? See, because I majored in history and archaeology in University.....
[QUOTE="fattony173"] [QUOTE="rickykemp"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. Mr_Manikin52
um, why should Israel not have as much right to exist as a nation state as say... oh..... the USA? each nation has as much right to exist as another.
I agree.
It's a bit hypocritical to say Israel has no right to exist when you look at how America came to be.
Not many country's just peacefully came into existence. It's the way the world works.
Israel is a lot older than America and Canada.:?
Do these Arabs really need a "Palestine"?:?
Israel become a state in 1948, long after the US and Canada.
[QUOTE="aces_are_high"]you might as well try wikipedia........i strain myself at the concept of where you might have gotten your history from.....dsmccracken
Sarcasm is not an argument. You might want to do a Wiki search yourself. you argument is inexistent...you have failed to bring of forth ANY form of material to support your false claims(no lands were purchased AFTER the creation of israel,the land was NEVER controlled by palestinians but by the turks and than the british,although the jews did not have a majority-they were almost 50%.....and the partition plan granted a jewish state WHERE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS WERE-and so it did with the arabs.....etc)
Are you completely unable, or just unwilling, to post without insults? So you have a masters in the origin of Israel? See, because I majored in history and archaeology in University.....dsmccracken
not modern israeli history,i hope, since you would have failed the course miserably....
[QUOTE="fattony173"] [QUOTE="rickykemp"][QUOTE="slackersunited"]I'm sorry, but I hate it when the media makes it seem that the everybody in the West agrees with the notion that Israel has the right to exist. Christians and Muslims lived peacefully in Arab countries. One of the most successful countries in the Middle East was Lebanon which was a majority Christian country before Israel made millions of Palestinians into refugees. Now, I am not saying Jews don't have a right live in their ancestral homeland, but they should not have made it into a state. dsmccracken
um, why should Israel not have as much right to exist as a nation state as say... oh..... the USA? each nation has as much right to exist as another.
I agree.
It's a bit hypocritical to say Israel has no right to exist when you look at how America came to be.
Not many country's just peacefully came into existence. It's the way the world works.
Israel is a lot older than America and Canada.:?
Do these Arabs really need a "Palestine"?:?
Israel become a state in 1948, long after the US and Canada.
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="aces_are_high"]you might as well try wikipedia........i strain myself at the concept of where you might have gotten your history from.....aces_are_high
Sarcasm is not an argument. You might want to do a Wiki search yourself. you argument is inexistent...you have failed to bring of forth ANY form of material to support your false claims(no lands were purchased AFTER the creation of israel,the land was NEVER controlled by palestinians but by the turks and than the british,although the jews did not have a majority-they were almost 50%.....and the partition plan granted a jewish state WHERE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS WERE-and so it did with the arabs.....etc) I have failed to bring proof? And your massive pile of evidence consists of... a link to wikipedia (surely an unimpeachable source), which you are misquoting, as I know since I had read that same article, and am lookiing RIGHT NOW where it says the exact opposite of what you are saying in regards to demographics. Almost 50%, geez, do I really need to do a cut and paste from that same article you're pulling from?
[QUOTE="aces_are_high"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="aces_are_high"]you might as well try wikipedia........i strain myself at the concept of where you might have gotten your history from.....dsmccracken
Sarcasm is not an argument. You might want to do a Wiki search yourself. you argument is inexistent...you have failed to bring of forth ANY form of material to support your false claims(no lands were purchased AFTER the creation of israel,the land was NEVER controlled by palestinians but by the turks and than the british,although the jews did not have a majority-they were almost 50%.....and the partition plan granted a jewish state WHERE JEWISH SETTLEMENTS WERE-and so it did with the arabs.....etc) I have failed to bring proof? And your massive pile of evidence consists of... a link to wikipedia (surely an unimpeachable source), which you are misquoting, as I know since I had read that same article, and am lookiing RIGHT NOW where it says the exact opposite of what you are saying in regards to demographics. Almost 50%, geez, do I really need to do a cut and paste from that same article you're pulling from? so that's your claim?......after ww2-the jews were about 50% of the populace,but that is besides the point.....fortunately-thhey resided in jewish controlled areas...and that is where the jewish state was to exist.....the fact that the arabs had a majority matters not-since they were crowded in very specific locations while the zionist movement struggled to raise settlements.....asians have a majority over planet earth-should all western states cease to exist because they aren't "the majority"?....hand china world domination......
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