Im all for god, but these christians...

They were knocking on my door, trying to get me to join there church, I told them no, im too busy on Sundays, then they wanted to talk to me about the bible. I say sure. they speak about the bible, and then one lady says "you know the jews? God cursed them long ago and you know what? the curse killed 6 million jews back in the 40's" and then some background story on the curse.

Im pretty sure that the Nazis killed the jews, if im correct. Why do they keep using these real life events and say god did it?

I guess you can't blame them for being deluded

They honestly believe that you're going to burn in hell for all eternity if you don't follow their path.

In their view, they are trying to "save" you.

They are damn annoying though, no matter how good they think their intentions are.

Those Christians make the rest of us look bad. :(kingdre

Indeed they do king... Indeed they do...

Personally, I think religion is ALL bull. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism and everything else you can think of. One of the only things that has ties to religion that I believe in is Karma.DannyDelorian

May I ask why you beieve in Karma?

In the subway, a bunch of Mormon tried to make me join their religion and their arguments were quite funny, like: "The white race were the first to colonized the new world (america) back in Jesus time" and "if you become a mormon, you will become happy and you will be able to give the oppurtinity to your family to become perfect"

I told them that I was happy without a God to worship and they would not leave me, until I called the security guard :\

Why do they keep using these real life events and say god did it?

CWEBB04z

In the subway, a bunch of Mormon tried to make me join their religion and their arguments were quite funny, like: "The white race were the first to colonized the new world (america) back in Jesus time" and "if you become a mormon, you will become happy and you will be able to give the oppurtinity to your family to become perfect"

I told them that I was happy without a God to worship and they would not leave me, until I called the security guard :\

Franko_3

Mormons are so racist lol, they wouldn't even let blacks become priests until the 70's. They think that God cursed Cain with black skin for killing Abel, and that's where blacks come from :lol:

If they weren't so crazy, I'd think about going to their services for some good laughs.

Ye they are pretty racist tbh, there is no need for it.

There is a catholic school near me and one girl was told she couldnt wear her cross around her neck, and the reason they gave, was because there was a muslim pupil and it could offend her? How ridiculus is that! a muslim goes to another religious school requesting pupils to not display their faith, but can you ask a muslim pupil not to display there own faith in necklaces or w/e. No.

I think religion causes more problems than good, so all religions should be banned or convert to one religion....

[QUOTE="DannyDelorian"]Personally, I think religion is ALL bull. Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism and everything else you can think of. One of the only things that has ties to religion that I believe in is Karma.manicfoot

May I ask why you beieve in Karma?

Yeah of course you can :) Basically I was born and raised on the concept fo Karma, What goes around comes around, and religion was never forced in to me. My parents always allowed me and my brother to out personal opinions. A long time my family suffered. Money, homeslessness (not me, but my mum's family were homeless for years before she was born), depression and generally let down by society. My family have always held their heads high and continued to be nice to people no matter what happened or what people have done. It's payed off. My mum is in a secure job, we have a lovelly little flat on an council estate and we have a great family unit. Being nice and positive to people has payed off.

Yeah it can all be put down to chance/coincedence, but it is my personal opinion and belief that Karma, being good gets you treaded good, turned out life around. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and beliefs.

I have to disagree with karma also im afraid.... I wish the saying "what goes around comes around" was true but unfortunately I don't think it does.

Ye they are pretty racist tbh, there is no need for it.

There is a catholic school near me and one girl was told she couldnt wear her cross around her neck, and the reason they gave, was because there was a muslim pupil and it could offend her? How ridiculus is that! a muslim goes to another religious school requesting pupils to not display their faith, but can you ask a muslim pupil not to display there own faith in necklaces or w/e. No.

I think religion causes more problems than good, so all religions should be banned or convert to one religion....

wigan_gamer

This also has a lot to do with politics and politcal correctness, something that is tearing the UK apart, as well as much of the world right now. It is offensive to be a majority these days.

I think religion causes more problems than good, so all religions should be banned or convert to one religion....

wigan_gamer

I have to disagree with karma also im afraid.... I wish the saying "what goes around comes around" was true but unfortunately I don't think it does.

wigan_gamer

I believe in Karma.. What goes around comes around for me. What I was explaining is that being nice, even through the troubles we had, got people to be nice to us in the end. The evil get their commupence... Adolf Hitler Saddam Hussain... etc.

Well I wouldn't have a problem with religion if it didn't cause problems to people who aren't religious. That is why I think they are bad...

And yea I think the UK is in a bad state at the moment in most areas, economics, politics, religion.... But I think in maybe 40 years the UK religion will be made up of 60% muslims and 40% other religions. Which will cause more problems because muslims will want more laws to go in favor of them... which will create more problems. I know I have a negative view of things but hopefully I am wrong and religion will do more good than bad stuff :)

Those Christians make the rest of us look bad. :(kingdre

Seriously. I'm christian and I can't stand those kind of people, even if they are christian. I shouldn't say that, but still. They're so freaking relentless. But there are people like that in all religions I guess.

[QUOTE="kingdre"]Those Christians make the rest of us look bad. :(master-dude

Seriously. I'm christian and I can't stand those kind of people, even if they are christian. I shouldn't say that, but still. They're so freaking relentless. But there are people like that in all religions I guess.

See now you have the view that religious people should have, you have your views but don't force them on others.

Well I wouldn't have a problem with religion if it didn't cause problems to people who aren't religious. That is why I think they are bad...

And yea I think the UK is in a bad state at the moment in most areas, economics, politics, religion.... But I think in maybe 40 years the UK religion will be made up of 60% muslims and 40% other religions. Which will cause more problems because muslims will want more laws to go in favor of them... which will create more problems. I know I have a negative view of things but hopefully I am wrong and religion will do more good than bad stuff :)

wigan_gamer

Eventually people will not stand for the Muslim takeover. I think it will all go to pot for them. Honestly though, whether or not this country changes, I am moving my family to Australia as soon as I have the money, a place where they don't stand for Political Correctness abuse or people trying to force a religion upon them

[QUOTE="master-dude"]

[QUOTE="kingdre"]Those Christians make the rest of us look bad. :(wigan_gamer

Seriously. I'm christian and I can't stand those kind of people, even if they are christian. I shouldn't say that, but still. They're so freaking relentless. But there are people like that in all religions I guess.

See now you have the view that religious people should have, you have your views but don't force them on others.

I mean, I think it's good to tell others about Jesus and christianity and all, but if the person says "I don't want to talk about it," then they don't want to talk about it.

Well I wouldn't have a problem with religion if it didn't cause problems to people who aren't religious. That is why I think they are bad...

And yea I think the UK is in a bad state at the moment in most areas, economics, politics, religion.... But I think in maybe 40 years the UK religion will be made up of 60% muslims and 40% other religions. Which will cause more problems because muslims will want more laws to go in favor of them... which will create more problems. I know I have a negative view of things but hopefully I am wrong and religion will do more good than bad stuff :)

wigan_gamer

You are on the right track though, a homogenous society doesn't have anywhere near the problems of a multicultural one.

They are Jehovah's Witnesses, just ignore them they aren't really considered Christians. Btw, i am sure many churches have masses on Saturdays, check with yours if you want to go.

On behalf of other normal Christians, we're sorry.

Hell, we have a guy at our chrch that tried to get the youth to burn their xboxs, movies, iPods, and other stuff like that. We were like "**** you, the Bible doesnt say this **** is bad."

Nice way to generalize Christians because a few knocked on your door. :(LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nice way to generalize Christians because a few knocked on your door. :(CptJSparrow

That's exactly what I was thinking, I saw no generalization...

Yes, some Christians do go quite too far. I am a baptist christian. As a child I went to private school, grew up in church, the whole nine yards. But even I can not stand some Christians.

For instance, I am not an avid church goer. I believe my faith is pretty unshakable, plus, I am a generally good person. I often go out of my way to help people, be polite, generous, etc.

What gives someone who is selfish, rude, self-centered, but attends church every Sunday the right to judge me because I do not like sitting in church for 3-4 hours (Baptist church services can go all day......seriously) or because I am not going to wear a suit to church. God does not care how I dress, Adam and Eve were nude in the garden of Eden, that did not bother him. Why would shorts piss him off?

Maybe it not just christians. People are judgemental naturally, but when you use God to justify being judgemental, and puttign others its so much worse.

I met a lot of awesome people this summer who just so happened to be Christian. Many of them expressed disdain for the evangelical influence in politics and members of their religion who try to shove it off on others. I really respected that. Religion should be a personal, introspective thing. xXBuffJeffXx

But I think that people whould respect people of other religions. One of my good friends is a Jehovah's Witness, I seriously try to understand what they believe. Some of it is left field for me, while some of it makes sense.

They were knocking on my door, trying to get me to join there church, I told them no, im too busy on Sundays, then they wanted to talk to me about the bible. I say sure. they speak about the bible, and then one lady says "you know the jews? God cursed them long ago and you know what? the curse killed 6 million jews back in the 40's" and then some background story on the curse.

Im pretty sure that the Nazis killed the jews, if im correct. Why do they keep using these real life events and say god did it?

CWEBB04z

They actually said that how insensitive to the holocast, im not even jewish but i would have told those Christians to F off

Their job is basically door-to-door salesmen. They're going to need something pretty hard hitting to grab your attention and make you think about it. Lo and behold they've done it.

But yeah, I agree that using a tragedy to scaremonger people into believing anything is wrong.

On behalf of other normal Christians, we're sorry.

Hell, we have a guy at our chrch that tried to get the youth to burn their xboxs, movies, iPods, and other stuff like that. We were like "**** you, the Bible doesnt say this **** is bad."

SylentButDeadly

I don't think they should be knocking on your door and all. I think they have a point about the Jew, but really, why do they have to talk to you about that at your door?!Anamosa41

They have a point in saying that God did the Holocaust?